Who do YOU give 11/10? (final appreciation)

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  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited November 2011 Posts: 13,355
    I think the only shining light in this film is Daniel Craig and the fact he proves once again he's a good choice to play Bond. I don't like giving the award to the Bond actor but twice they have deserved it. I'm looking forward to the future.

    1. Terence Young
    2. Terence Young
    3. John Barry
    4. Sean Connery
    5. Freddie Young
    6. John Barry
    7. Tom Mankiewicz
    8. George Martin
    9. Christopher Lee
    10. Ken Adam
    11. Derek Meddings
    12. Roger Moore
    13. Martin Grace
    14. Christopher Walken
    15. Maryam d'Abo
    16. Timothy Dalton
    17. Michael France
    18. David Arnold
    19. Judi Dench
    20. Daniel Kleinman
    21. Daniel Kleinman
    22. Daniel Craig

    Thanks for the fun once again, DD!
  • Monsieur_AubergineMonsieur_Aubergine Top of the Eiffel Tower with a fly in my soup!
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    Craig. Daniel Craig. You are Bond now...23 is but a year away. Thank god you "never left"
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    edited November 2011 Posts: 4,399
    <i>1. Terence Young - Dr. No
    2. Pedro Armendariz - From Russia With Love
    3. Gert Frobe - Goldfinger
    4. Sean Connery - Thunderball
    5. Ken Adam - You Only Live Twice
    6. Peter Hunt - On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    7. Shirley Bassey - Diamonds Are Forever
    8. Yaphet Kotto - Live And Let Die
    9. Christopher Lee - The Man With The Golden Gun
    10. Roger Moore - The Spy Who Loved Me
    11. Michael Lonsdale - Moonraker
    12. Bill Conti - For Your Eyes Only
    13. John Barry - Octopussy
    14. Christopher Walken - A View To A Kill
    15. Timothy Dalton - The Living Daylights
    16. Richard Maibaum & Michael G. Wilson - Licence To Kill
    17. Martin Campbell - Goldeneye
    18. Johnanthan Pryce - Tomorrow Never Dies
    19. Pierce Brosnan - The World Is Not Enough
    20. Peter Lamont - Die Another Day
    21. Daniel Craig / Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli - Casino Royale
    <b>22. Daniel Craig - Quantum Of Solace</b></i>

    there are lot of positives in this film, that simply get marred because of the decision to shoot the action scenes in seizure vision... outside of the direction of the action, I thought Forster did a terrific job, and on occasion giving us some beautiful imagery, and shots.. I thought Arnold really matured, and his score for this film was his deepest, and most refined... I also loved the production design - it had a Ken Adam post modern feel to it - and it worked really well with the whole vibe of the film...

    but I don't think I could give it to anyone else but Craig - who seemed to really cement himself into the role with his performance in this film... he felt a little more opened up in terms of his personality, and the 2nd to last scene in the film, where he confront Yusef is definitive Bond in my opinion... despite a half polished script, and epileptic action sequences, Craig's performance was again strong, and carried the film the best it could.
  • Think I've eaten too much so I'll be brief

    Not going to give any further berating to this film but I have to go along with others in that Craig simply was the best thing about the last release. Not as effective or memorable as in his Casino Royale debut but I remember enough and memory jolts from all that i've read that he was the star attraction of the piece, next time about he's going to do even better by all accounts. I wish I could be more praising of this last Bond release but that's about as much as I can offer this time out.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Think I've eaten too much so I'll be brief

    Not going to give any further berating to this film but I have to go along with others in that Craig simply was the best thing about the last release. Not as effective or memorable as in his Casino Royale debut but I remember enough and memory jolts from all that i've read that he was the star attraction of the piece, next time about he's going to do even better by all accounts. I wish I could be more praising of this last Bond release but that's about as much as I can offer this time out.

    Don't mean to be rude here but I think it's all you can offer 'this time out' because you haven't made the effort to see it again. If the only time you saw the film was in 2008 you are doing yourself a disservice. If you get so called 'memory jolts' from all that you have read about Dan being the best thing in the film you aren't even exhibiting your own opinion, but the opinion of the writer that you read. I can guarantee if you were given a quiz on the events of QoS you would fail miserably.
  • KerimKerim Istanbul Not Constantinople
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    The dame joins Shirley and John as multiple winners on my list.

    My awardees:

    DN: Jospeh Wiseman
    FRWL: Pedro Armedariz
    GF: Shirley Bassey
    TB: Lucianna Paluzzi
    YOLT: John Barry
    OHMSS: John Barry
    DAF: Shirley Bassey
    LALD: Yaphet Kotto
    TMWTGG: Christopher Lee
    TSWLM: Roger Moore
    MR: John Barry
    FYEO: Topol
    OP: Steven Berkoff
    AVTAK: Duran Duran
    TLD: Timothy Dalton
    LTK: Robert Davi
    GE: Martin Campbell
    TND: Judy Dench
    TWINE: Desmond Llewelyn
    DAD: Pierce Brosnan
    CR: Daniel Craig
    QOS: Judy Dench
  • Mathis was a very key character in this film and I loved how Giancarlo gave perhaps the most emotional and human key supporting character in a Bond film


    DN - Maurice Binder
    FRWL - Daniela BIanchi
    GF - Richard Malibum
    TB - Luciana Paluzzi
    YOLT - Ken Adam
    OHMSS - John Barry/George Lazenby
    DAF - None
    LALD - George Martin
    TMWTGG - Christopher Lee
    TSWLM - Albert R. Broccoli
    MR - Shirley Bassey
    FYEO - Roger Moore
    OP - Rita Coolidge/John Barry
    AVTAK - Christopher Walken
    TLD - Richard Maibaum/Michael G. Wilson
    LTK - Benicio Del Toro
    GE - Martin Campbell (Along with almost everyone else)
    TND - None
    TWINE - Sophie Marceau
    DAD - Neal Purvis/Robert Wade
    CR - Daniel Craig
    QOS - Giancarlo Giannini
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    edited November 2011 Posts: 14,585
    ^ Very true. When Mathis dies, I actually care- unlike a lot of the other allies.
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    Roberto Scheafer for shooting the slickest frames since the invention of the post card.

    Marc Forster for having the cheek to make such an artsy Bond film.
  • all the bond fans old and new
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    @PKK

    I'll have the same as you..

    CR: Daniel Craig
    QOS: Giancarlo Giannini

  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited November 2011 Posts: 6,304
    CR and QoS: Craig (although Giannini comes close--they should never have killed him off).
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    ^
    I am a big QoS fan but I am irked about Mathis's death as well. I think he'd have been a great part of the fiftieth anniversary if he would have been in Skyfall. I can't believe he was just killed off after a film and a half of presence. And CR was the first time we saw Mathis on screen and off the pages of the novels. I'd have loved to see more and I don't know why EON did such a thing like that. Another thing I noticed: QoS takes place just minutes from CR and yet Bond's hairstyle is completely different. It changed from the somewhat spiked hair of CR to the flat laid hair of QoS. Just found it odd, that's all.
  • ^
    I am a big QoS fan but I am irked about Mathis's death as well. I think he'd have been a great part of the fiftieth anniversary if he would have been in Skyfall. I can't believe he was just killed off after a film and a half of presence. And CR was the first time we saw Mathis on screen and off the pages of the novels. I'd have loved to see more and I don't know why EON did such a thing like that. Another thing I noticed: QoS takes place just minutes from CR and yet Bond's hairstyle is completely different. It changed from the somewhat spiked hair of CR to the flat laid hair of QoS. Just found it odd, that's all.

    With the exception that his character would have been useless from QOS forward. Look, I like Mathis just as much as the next guy, but the way he was portrayed in CR and QOS was so radically different from the books that his time had to be limited.

    For instance, when we first saw him he was kind of like a mentor and an "older, wiser" agent who basically watched over Bond in his mission/save him from his mistakes. By the time QOS rolls around, he's already semi-retired and rarely goes out into the field. Again, we can't use him very well in other situations, and even if he was still alive it would be hard to fit him in Skyfall and the direction the franchise is moving toward.

    I personally think it's enough that he carried himself along with Bond during Vesper's storyline, and Haggis, Pervis and Wade made a great, if not important decision to make his character as useful (and memorable) as possible.


  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    ^
    I think there would be room for Mathis if he'd have lived, but it is all too late now. Hopefully when Bond is revamp somewhere down the line Mathis is included and made a French agent the same age as Bond who have a history of service together. The more like the books the better.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited November 2011 Posts: 4,520
    Dr No - Bernard Lee
    FRWL - Pedro Armendariz
    GF - Desmond LLwelyn
    TB - Anthony Dawson & Eric Pohlmann (Actor and voice actor of Ernst Stavro Blofeld)
    Yolt - Sean Connery
    OHMSS - George Lazenby
    DAF - Sean Connery
    LALD - Roger Moore
    TMWTGG - Roger Moore
    TSWLM - Roger Moore
    Moonraker - Bernard Lee
    FYEO - Carole Bouquet
    Octopussy - Roger Moore
    AVTAK - Roger Moore
    TLD - Timothy Dalton
    LTK - Timothy Dalton
    GE - Izabella Scorupco
    TMND: Pierce Brosnan
    Twine: Desmond Llewelyn
    DAD: Judi Dench
    Casino Royale: Mads Mikkelsen
    QOS - Gemma Arterton

    Crew:

    Dr No: Harry Saltzman.
    FRWL: Richard Maibaum & Johanna Harwood (Writers). The movie have one of my favorte stroy's. It whasn't easy with doubt about them, Terence Young and Ken Adam.
    GF: Shirley Bassey
    Thunderball: Ken Adam. Whyle there be some flaws like the very bad boat chase who is film on blue screen, i think he set the base for some of other sets.
    Yolt: Ken Adam. With exeption of the final set.
    OHMSS: John Barry. In general there only 2 scores from him iam a big fan from. OHMSS is one of them. After the boring scores of GF, TB and Yolt this is very refreshing and helps the story go's also. It be a bit shame he return to the old style already for the next one.
    DAF: Ken Adam. Not easy, i doubt about him and Guy Hamilton. For a part this be my GF.
    LALD: Syd Cain (Production Designer, for LALD credit as Art directer superviser.)
    TMWTGG: Guy Hamilton
    TSWLM: Ken Adam.
    MR: Ernest Day & John Glen (As Second united directer. Action is the best thing from the movie.)
    FYEO: Alan Hume (The cinematopgrapher. He also did Octopussy and AVTAK.)
    OP: Peter Lamont
    AVTAK: Peter Davies (Editor. Also be the editor of Octopussy and FYEO.). AVTAK is my GF.
    TLD: John Barry. My favorite John Barry score.
    GE: Derek Meddings (miniature effects supervisor. Kind of production designer of the Satelite. Also working on some other Bond movies. He past a way 2 months before the release of Goldeneye.)
    TMND: Debbie McWilliams
    Twine: Adrian Bidle. Cinematopgrapher of the movie. His legacy lived in what Phil Meheux did for CR. But i think Bidle be better, whyle Meheux best cinematopgraphy be Goldeneye.
    DAD: Daniel Kleiman
    CR: Daniel Kleiman
    QOS: Dennis Gassner (Production Designer). The cinematography and Production Design are a very high point of the movie. I deside to give my points to the production designer because i think it is the way to go.

    In general i whant give some credit to the location hunters in specialy for out of the box thinking for FRWL, DAF, TSWLM, Mr, FYEO, Octopussy, TLD and Twine.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited November 2011 Posts: 24,184
    <font color=tomato size=3><b>EPILOGUE</b></font> <font color=blue size=7> <b><i>Casino Royale (1967) & Never Say Never Again</i></b></font>

    Because in certain lists, they count as Bonds films too...
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    For CR67, my vote goes to Peter Sellers who is, without a doubt, my favourite all-time actor. His performance as Evelyn Tremble wasn't always even and precise but what was in this film? My second choice would have been Burt Bacharach.

    As far as NSNA is concerned, there's a fierce contest going on between Brandauer and Connery. Ultimately though, I love Connery's performance in NSNA. Despite his age and the extra pounds, I'm willing to lead a PR campaign for the NSNA Connery. Sean Connery it is then...

    1. Terence Young
    2. Sean Connery
    3. John Barry
    4. Peter Hunt
    5. Ken Adam
    6. John Barry
    7. John Barry
    8. Jane Seymour
    9. Christopher Lee
    10. Ken Adam
    11. John Barry
    12. Maurice Binder
    13. Martin Grace
    14. John Barry
    15. John Barry
    16. Timothy Dalton
    17. Martin Campbell
    18. Daniel Kleinman
    19. Desmond Llewelyn
    20. Peter Lamont
    21. Martin Campbell
    22. Daniel Craig

    * Peter Sellers
    ** Sean Connery
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    <b><i>Casino Royale</i> • Burt Bacharach</b>
    <b><i>Never Say Never Again</i> • Klaus Maria Brandauer</b>

    Max Largo is the best Largo.
  • KerimKerim Istanbul Not Constantinople
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    CR67: Herb Alpert & Tijuana Brass
    NSNA: Barbara Carrera
  • PrinceKamalKhanPrinceKamalKhan Monsoon Palace, Udaipur
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    royale65 wrote:
    @PKK

    I'll have the same as you..

    CR: Daniel Craig
    QOS: Giancarlo Giannini

    You have excellent taste, sir! ;)

    DN: Terence Young
    FRWL: Robert Shaw
    GF: Sean Connery
    TB: Luciana Paluzzi
    YOLT: Ken Adam(honorable mention to Freddie Young)
    OHMSS: John Barry
    DAF: Jill St. John
    LALD: Jane Seymour
    TMWTGG: Christopher Lee
    TSWLM: Caroline Munro
    MR: Sir Roger Moore
    FYEO: Topol
    OP: Steven Berkoff
    AVTAK: John Barry
    TLD: Timothy Dalton
    LTK: Robert Davi
    GE: Sean Bean
    TND: Teri Hatcher
    TWINE: Desmond Llewelyn
    DAD: Pierce Brosnan
    CR: Daniel Craig
    QOS: Giancarlo Giannini
    <b>NSNA: Barbara Carrera
    CR' 67: Jacqueline Bisset</b>
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,355
    Ehh.....

    Let me think...
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Catching up now ... CR: absolutely Daniel Craig, QOS: Judi Dench (Giancarlo a close second), and if I have to include NSNA: Sean for sure, and CR '67 would be hmmm ... Peters Sellers
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Haven't watched CR67 for ages, but for NSNA I'll have to give it to Connery for bringing us one last film with him as Bond. Honourable mentions go to Brandauer, Barbara Carrera =P~ and her pet snake.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I'm closing this thing down soon, guys. A few more comments on CR and NSNA?
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited November 2011 Posts: 4,520
    NSNA: Sean Connery
    CR67: David Niven

    Crew:

    NSNA: Kevin McClory
    CR67: Richard Williams (Maintitles)
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    NSNA: Carrera

    CR67: Dusty Springfield
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    Never Say Never Again: Barbara Carrera
    Casino Royale (1967): Burt Bacarach
  • only watched Never Say Never Again of the unofficial Bond movie so....Sean Connery I think he is the star and nothing without him
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,184
    <font color=tomato size=3><b>FINAL APPRECIATATION</b></font> <font color=blue size=7> <b><i>THANK YOU EVERYONE!</i></b></font>

    It was interesting to read your choices. Some of those lists really rock. Thanks for posting. Still trying to bridge the gap between QoS and SF, threads like these tend to amuse me but only with your input do they fulfill their destiny. ;;)

    Once again, thank you and we'll be seeing each other again, very soon.
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