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The World is Not Enough | Original Opening

jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
edited November 2016 in Fan Creations Posts: 10,591
Firstly, if the mods object to this being its own thread, please feel free to close it.

So, an idea came to mind yesterday. As most of us will know, Michael Apted stated that he originally intended for the Bilbao bank sequence to be the original pre-title sequence of the film. However, after previewing the film and receiving lackluster audience reactions, he eventually pulled the plug on the idea and went on to combine both the Bilbao scenes and the MI6 explosion/boat chase into one long (maybe overlong) pre-title sequence. In knowing this, I had decided to experiment with reshaping the first few scenes of the film to match Apted's initial plan. The result was a first act that flowed undeniably better than the final cut. Here it is:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x53iqmy

P.S. Sorry for the fact that it's on Dailymotion. YouTube wouldn't allow it.

Comments

  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    That was a great edit Jake. :-bd
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    Cheers, @Murdock.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
    Posts: 3,675
    Good job! Lacklustre audience reaction my butt. That version seems better.
  • SuperintendentSuperintendent A separate pool. For sharks, no less.
    Posts: 871
    Looks good. I wouldn't mind a short and effective PTS in the future.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    Thank you both.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,183
    Bloody good job! Excellent transitions! This is how I've always wanted the film to go. I salute you for this, @jake24. You've made a TWINE sceptic very happy.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    Glad you liked it, @DarthDimi.
  • gt007gt007 Station G
    Posts: 1,182
    Great work, @job24. Very nice editing.

    It's an interesting edit. On one hand, I find the PTS a tad too short. It feels like something's missing. But maybe I'm just used to the actual PTS of the film. On the other hand, the scene at MI6 HQ and the boat chase do seem more appropriately placed after the titles.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited November 2016 Posts: 4,520
    The maintitle is used as bridge between boat chase and funeral scene.
    After that great but exited action scene you need a break.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Are you suggesting, @M_Balje, that Casino Royale should have been cut differently too then?
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    Thanks for editing that together, @jake24. Certainly interesting to see what might have been, but ultimately they made the right choice with the final edit. The existing PTS feels much more satisfying and sets up the stakes for the film much better than the brief segment in Bilbao. One of the things I love most about TWINE is how well the film both adheres to the Bond formula while still finding ample opportunity to break free in new and interesting ways. One of those is the PTS, where the audience's appetite is wet in Spain, then we move on to Mi6 HQ with Moneypenny and M and all that usual jazz but sans main titles, and before you know it an explosion rocks the building and we realize the PTS has only just begun. Perfect. Furthermore, I don't like the idea of following the main titles with a lengthy action sequence. That should be the part of the film where we're settling comfortably into our seats and discovering where the story is going to take us IMO. I'm not a fan, for instance, of how the parkour chase butts right up against the main titles in Casino Royale. It feels like we're getting a second PTS all over again when we should be getting into the story proper. I have similar feelings about the Sienna foot-chase in QoS.

    It's also interesting to note that had the Thames chase followed the main titles, it would have been longer. They edited it down to bring the PTS to an appropriate length.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited November 2016 Posts: 10,591
    @Some_Kind_Of_Hero I think the original, unedited cut lasted for something like 18 minutes.
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
    Posts: 6,844
    That would have made for quite the bloated PTS. I think the chase plays at a fine length as it is anyway.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited November 2016 Posts: 4,520
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Are you suggesting, @M_Balje, that Casino Royale should have been cut differently too then?

    If you ask me, yes. After the explosion. Cut Dryden complete and starting with Gunbarrel and Madagascar. In another topic somebody made alternate cut of Madagascar scene with some less action. http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/16016/casino-royale-the-big-picture-fanedit-of-cr

    Back in time i was and stil not happy with Casino Royale. Then i wil cut possible more then now.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited November 2016 Posts: 4,116
    Interesting and well done alternate edit for TWINE; however, I prefer the final edit. The PTS for TWINE in my opinion works as a fine as a prologue for the film.

    The PTS for CR works perfectly for that film. Changing it would compromise the storytelling for the sake of a run of the mill opening. Sorry the filmmakers knew and understood the story they were telling with that edit. My opinion of course

    One thing I will add for Arnold fans is I had forgotten how nice it was to watch a Bond film with an actual Bond score.
  • tanaka123tanaka123
    Posts: 4,325
    I prefer the final edit of TWINE. Also the PTS of CR makes thematic sense - the whole film is about Bond going from that moment to 'Bond, James Bond' at the end with White. Although I did always think that in a parallel universe where they weren't rebooting and still didn't have the rights to CR, the parkour chase would have been the PTS.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,183
    I will concede to preferring @jake24's cut.
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