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Even if say Blofeld and Oberhauser are not the same person, nothing indicates that it is Denbigh. Even if what we have seen was an avalanche of red herrings: Oberhauser's clothes, the possible scar, the lines he says, his leadership position, the casting of Waltz, his resemblance with OHMSS Blofeld, etc. That still would not mean Denbigh is Blofeld.
Dr.No head of SP? Scott is really Blofeld? [-X
Looks like some are too deep in the forest to see the trees. Let's not make too much of a meal of this.
Like I said, I expect a Jekyll & Hyde or Dracula twist.
Well, I'll be watching October 26th, but I won't spoil/discuss/disappoint you until you've watched it.
I like your theroy Gustav , and it did shock me indeed .
If this happens at the end of SP I wouldn't be surprised to be honest ..
One thing I wanna mention and I think it will support your theroy .. In Skyfall we saw the death of the old M and then Fiennes became the new M .. He was in the story from the beginning .. But the development of the story leaded him to become M ..
So this could work out with Oberhauser and Denbigh but this time on the villains side .. Waltz is a perfect actor for no doubts but this doesn't mean he is definitely Blofeld .. In this matter Craig our bond himself wasnt famous in CR .. Andrew Scott is famous already from Sherlock .. He will even be soo famous if he turns to be Blofeld after SP ..
And what piece of evidence do we have that Denbigh is Blofeld?
I guess no evidence just a prediction.. But then I noticed they didnt include any pics or footage of Denbigh until the trailer and they were so briefly.. I have a feeling they want us to assume Blofeld is Waltz but then he is not ..
So what if Denbigh is little seen? Maybe because he's secondary character.
So let's imagine we are the Bond producers, trying to select the new Blofeld, whom will (hopefully) reintroduce the arch nemesis of James Bond for a new generation and hopefully excite and terrify them in equal measure. Do we, A) go with 2 time academy award winner Cristoph Waltz, who we know played a very sinister, original villain in the form of Hans Landa and has buckets full of charisma? Or do we go with B), Andrew Scott, the bloke who played Moriarty in BBC Sherlock by doing a Heath Ledger Joker impersonation because that was the thing at the time?
I'm not trying to do down Scott's acting ability (although I'm really not a fan of his Moriarty), but you don't just employ Waltz to play a secondary villain.
What happens if Waltz' Oberhauser becomes more famous/ is more successful than a Blofeld played by Scott? Do you kill off Blofeld?
You got it wrong. In the movies SPECTRE was the enemy from DN until DAF inclusively, with the exception of GF of course. In the novels yes, it starts with TB, but in TB Blofeld is indeed shown his face from the chapter introducing the organization (and Blofeld), with an extensive description of his appearance and an extensive account of his life. Furthermore, Blofeld has always been, both in novels and movies, the founder of SPECTRE and its leader.
Dr No wore a nehru jacket. Karl Stromberg wore a nehry jacket, Elliot Carver wore one. Even Bond wore a nehru jacket, back in DN.
And last, but not least-Nehru wore a Nehru jacket.
You have to admit there's as about as much evidence linking Scott with Blofeld as there is, Fiennes, or Kinnear, or even Mark Strong, after that bizarre rumour. In other words, none. With Waltz there is plenty of circumstantial evidence. Whether he is revealed as Blofeld in SP, who knows, but many things point to him being Blofeld in either this film, or beyond. Having the opportunity to cast Waltz as Blofeld and not doing it for the sake of twist is, quite frankly, ridiculous.
I speak for the novels, that is the real bond history, in the movies they did the best to fit the history into the era that the movie was filmed, so we cant see what spectre was, throught the movies! Also in the YOLT movie we have number in the agents but i think no mention about spectre as a word (maybe because they had the legal trouble after TB) also in OHMSS we only see the octapus ring but on DAF we have only Blofeld, nothing else!
Hence what I said: Blofeld is the founder and leader of Blofeld, his heart, mind and soul. Whether or not the organization is explicitly mentioned is a moot point (it is in both OHMSS novel and movie), Blofeld is the founder and leader. Not some schmo.
And here's the crux of the Andrew Scott is Blofeld thesis: there is no evidence whatsoever backing it up. The only thing going for them is that maybe Waltz is not Blofeld. Well, maybe the trailer is sending us an avalanche of red herrings (because it's not like the Nehru jacket is the only thing that makes us believe Waltz plays Blofeld). Still, even of Oberhauser is a strawman... What evidence do we have that Denbigh is truly Blofeld in disguise? Andrew Scott played Moriarty? And Ralph Fiennes played Voldemort.
Strictly spoken, from a journalist point of view, it's not 'fact' yet that Waltz is Blofeld. Yes, it has the biggest amount of evidence backing up this view. Chance is perhaps big he's Blofeld. But other theories should not be washed away with such a firm statement "there's no evidence!". It's a bit more nuanced that that.
I never said it was a fact, I am saying it is the most plausible conclusion so far, unless we have new evidence/information that leads to another theory. it is not that such theories are washed away, it is that you go where the evidence is, not where you think maybe it could lead. And by the way, the Andrew Scott as Blofeld claim is not a theory. It's an hypothesis. A rather poor one. Until and unless there is something, anything, to back it up, then it remains as pointless defending it as saying that Moneypenny is in fact Blofeld in disguise.
We know Franz Oberhauser and James Bond were some kind of foster brothers. They became related when Andrew and Monique Bond died. So, I assume Hannes Oberhauser is Franz' Oberhauser's faster and perhaps legal adoptive father of James Bond.
But....IF this Oberhauser has so much childhood history and background information, then HOW can he become Ernst Stavro Blofeld? Did he just go to the city council a few years ago and said: "Hey, I wanna change my name into Ernst Stavro Blofeld!" Or is the entire Oberhauser family....actually the Blofeld family?? Did they change their last names due to the Blofeld's being involved with the Nazi's of some kind??
There MUST be a better explanation on how Oberhauser turns into Blofeld. It still mystifies me.
Or is there a chance that we actually never get a return of Blofeld, and instead Oberhauser sticks to his name.....and becomes the new arch villain of 007?
In all honesty, I am really guessing. based on the information from the "Octopussy" novel and the trailers from "SPECTRE". For all we know, there is no Hannes Oberhauser at all in the cinematic Bond universe.
Well, uhm, I am very honest if I say that I have never looked into the SonyLeaks. It's not my kind of stuff....reading illegally obtained early drafts. Yuk.
Regarding the return of "SPECTRE"......it was an easy guess after Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson obtained all the rights from the McGlory estate. I never believed a word from "Cubby" when he said "Oooowh, we can do perfectly without SPECTRE and Blofeld". Hence Blofeld killed by dropping him in a chimney....
The novel "Casino Royale", the "SPECTRE"-organization and "Blofeld" did re-inspire the Bond producers completely. As if Ian Fleming is talking via an angel to the producers.
I just asked a lot of questions in my previous post. Pity you did not address one of them.