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  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    I keep hoping that it's not too late to toss the traitors out... all it takes is a couple of Republicans to put country ahead of party for once...

    I share your far-fetched hope, sir!
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited October 2018 Posts: 12,480
    Nobel Peace Prize ~ what excellent choices!
    This is a strong statement the Nobel committee has made.
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    I have no opinion whatsoever on this potential judge character, but again I sense a lot of hipocricy flying around.

    It is difficult to make out what has happened but one thing is sure Kavanaugh's response on this on a whole shows a lack of skill and insight you would expect from a member of the Supreme court. His response was driven by selfishness instead of choosing to be Judge-like and seek to unite a country instead of talking total bollocks. He already showed his colours.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    They are doing fine work, but this is a reward for humanitarian work, and has nothing to do with the Nobel Peace Prize statutes as usual.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited October 2018 Posts: 12,480
    Kavanaugh ... the reasons are many and run deep. Sure he is a distraction, also. Trump put him forth against advice of many, but for reasons that are not easily clear to us. He is not qualified for many reasons. He would be a far right voter, biased, and would push to destroy rights against women (that much is clear). But there is more to it than that (including that Trump and those "guiding" him want chaos to happen). All that extremism helps their agenda. But it will come out eventually. Meanwhile, it is a disgusting mess, he probably will be confirmed, which is in itself shameful but what the GOP majority (and their tainted leaders) are pushing through - something the GOP would not have done 20 years ago or earlier. The GOP, not just Trump, is severely damaging my country. A Supreme Court justice may be impeached, though. So this will be ongoing. (high bar, same as for impeaching a president; but Kavanaugh lied under oath and that is one sticking point)

    Not only will this not die down completely, lawsuits filed, impeachment called for ... but the other justices on the court will find their own way to deal with Kavanaugh.

    Now Sen. Flake has caved (as we knew he would, so predictable) and Kavanaugh is lined up to be confirmed. Absolutely he does not deserve to be on the Supreme Court. There will be a lot of civil protests. There already are. That is our right. But not violence - which is what Bannon has said he wants. And yes, he still influences Trump. So expect that the "left" and "liberals" to be falsely blamed for outbreaks of violence, which we have seen happen in the past (Charlottesville just one example).

    Nice to have good news in the world, too. :)
    The Nobel Peace prize is a shining ray of hope and a beautiful thing. The committee makes their own decisions and has had "different" choices over the years for sure. This one is so apt, timely, and I'm very glad these two were selected. We need more of this in the world.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Bond fans here MUST see the spy stuff going on... the GOP is linked heavily to Russia, and it's why they HAVE to have Kavanaugh on their team. Drain the swamp, deep state... this IS the GOP now. Corruption is one thing, but traitors to AMERICA is the bottom of the putrid barrel. They would plunder a dying nation rather than make it strong again. Keep solar down & promote oil... this is just short-term profit madness. But it makes sense from a carpetbagger's POV. These fake-Christian Ayn Rand pukes need to go. Send them to Russia, with love.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited October 2018 Posts: 12,480
    @chrisisall, too many in Congress are compromised. I came to that conclusion very reluctantly, but yes that appears to be quite true.


    And this is a good point, but not the focus of what could impeach Kavanaugh (unless he is criminally indicted at some point). The lying under oath is impeachable, though.


    And now I'll go watch TSWLM, one of my favorite Bond films, and carry on with believing that Good will triumph over Evil ... even in the U.S. government.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    @chrisisall, too many in Congress are compromised. I came to that conclusion very reluctantly, but yes that appears to be quite true.


    And this is a good point, but not the focus of what could impeach Kavanaugh (unless he is criminally indicted at some point). The lying under oath is impeachable, though.


    And now I'll go watch TSWLM, one of my favorite Bond films, and carry on with believing that Good will triumph over Evil ... even in the U.S. government.

    Let's not forget how the senate is comprised. Every state, no matter how big or small gets two senators. For those outside the U.S., who don't get how/why our system seems broken beyond repair, this is the main culprit (along with the antiquated electoral college).
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    Corruption is one thing, but traitors to AMERICA is the bottom of the putrid barrel. .

    This is how I view our governments here in Western Europe. Bowing to globalist finance lords, and following orders from supranational organizations rather than serving the people they are supposed to represent.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    It's done. A terrible, sick day in American history that will never be lived down.
    But we can get through this together. One step - and one vote - at a time. And keep your voice being heard.









    That's all from me for today. As for Americans ... we all need to think this through, take a break, then be ready for the rest of this fight for our country, our democracy. And that is not hyperbole.

  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited October 2018 Posts: 12,480
    It would be nice to laugh today, but not possible regarding these issues.
    This is actually a bipartisan issue (the Supreme Court), but the GOP is responsible for this path, yes.
    However, we will work together as a country to fix this. It will take time - and history will not be kind to these current events - Trump, Kavanaugh, and those who voted for Kavanaugh.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    The platforms of both parties have changed a lot since then. Lincoln today would be a Democrat.

  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    TripAces wrote: »
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    The platforms of both parties have changed a lot since then. Lincoln today would be a Democrat.

    Yes. Republicans used to be heroes; now they are the carpetbaggers. Watch the U.S. midterm vote in 30 days; it will be interesting.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    And so the US has lost it's last beacon of moral highground, making a Judge part of the supreme court even though he committed perjury. The country which once was a leading light of ideals of freedom has become a second-rate country (actively) aiming for third-world status. As yet still the biggest economy in the world, as a fading legacy of a once balanced nation, it'll take the biggest hit with the next economic crisis which the current President is igniting only to help his friend who run companies in outdated industries.
    China is actively seeking to take over the main role in world domination, with a military now capable of matching the US weapons and actively investing in the latest technonlogies and an energy transition which will give it, when oil prices hike (because of the increased demand especially of plastics) the head start it needs to curtail American power instead of the other way around.

    But the once freedom-promoting country has fallen into the hands of neo-liberal thoughts, eradicating the limits to capitalism for short-term gains even though it's been proven time and time again this results in monopolies which cripple economies. Like they did in Russia, in Indonesia, and all those countries that were poisoned by this 'economic' thinking from the nineteen eighties (approximately, for Indonesia it started earlier, Russia from 1991 onwards. The corruption under Jeltsin ws it's product) onwards. The poison has come home and is destroying the nation.

    So goodbye US of A. And welcome to the new world-order in which communism reigns supreme. I wonder if those 'Republicans' realised this. Reminds me of a line in Star Wars though: 'so this is how democracies die. To thundering applause'. Quite the apt observation, just a bit early. The applause came two days ago with Kanenaugh's confirmation.

  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Some judge gets appointed by Trump, and democracy dies.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Some judge gets appointed by Trump, and democracy dies.

    Nope, said nothing about Trump, you're too hung-up on anti-Trump sentiments. A high-court Judge committing perjury: how is he going to rule in perjury cases? What kind of moral highground does he still posesss in his rulings if he himself has lied under oath? What does 'oath' still mean then?
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Some judge gets appointed by Trump, and democracy dies.

    Nope, said nothing about Trump, you're too hung-up on anti-Trump sentiments. A high-court Judge committing perjury: how is he going to rule in perjury cases? What kind of moral highground does he still posesss in his rulings if he himself has lied under oath? What does 'oath' still mean then?

    Not much. ;(
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    If Dr Ford didn't have a political motivation what is preventing her from filing a police report?
    There is not a statute of limitations for her allegation.

    Because she has no evidence, no police officer or district attorney would ever take her claims seriously.

    Failed hit job.....
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    If Dr Ford didn't have a political motivation what is preventing her from filing a police report?
    There is not a statute of limitations for her allegation.

    Because she has no evidence, no police officer or district attorney would ever take her claims seriously.

    Failed hit job.....

    The investigation necessary to prove this allegation to the point of a jury trial could only be done by the FBI with the President's approval. Any paltry police investigation would only turn up what physical evidence there is now (meaning nothing), and people lying one way or the other. Lying to the FBI is big time. People don't want Federal heat. Lying to a cop is not such a big deal.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Dr. Ford was completely credible. But you and others can continue to try to negate her. Life is moving on. The GOP is not even hiding any more. Their "fixes" and stances are plain to see. Justice was not served. Kavanaugh lied under oath, totally aside from his own sordid past, which should have disqualified him. He is impeachable. But we need to keep moving, not stagnant.

    Meanwhile, the Supreme Court will try to handle their new member in the best way for the country. Of course this has hurt the court - it cannot help but being damaged in reputation. @CommanderRoss is right that this is a huge hit on democracy. But also, keep in mind, the court is not limited in number. Other justices may be appointed in the future - and that will be needed to balance the court.

    One wishes one were a fly on the wall, so to speak, when the justices realized that Kavanaugh would be joining them.


  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    It's a Trump world, after all...
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    jobo wrote: »

    Depressing!!!! And despite the natural disasters that are on the increase in the US? He is just not interested.
  • Let's take a moment to realize that, no matter our position on the state of our world, each of us has our own sorrows to bear. The right wing is currently mourning the fact that Taylor Swift has abdicated her (unsought) position as Aryan Goddess in waiting...
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2018/10/08/betrayal-beyond-words-far-right-melts-down-over-taylor-swifts-endorsement-democrats/?utm_term=.08b2ecf99250
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