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Who do you think is the strongest Democratic candidate of those we know of so far?
I'm not saying Pence should get away with anything. He shouldn't and is up to his neck in everything this administration condoned and planned. But I am thinking he may be able to escape prosecution. I won't be surprised if he does, maybe due to plea bargaining. I don't know if he would resign or try stick as president. I think Trump will be prosecuted and sentenced, but I am not clear if Pence will be gone.
Nancy has more sense than to actually want that pressure cooker of a job. Besides, we already know that Lisa Simpson is destined to follow DJT as President.
Pence has been smart enough to be involved yet not so explicitly - he was aware from the beginning, I think, of the need to distance himself. He may have covered his tracks enough so that prosecuting him would not be a slam dunk. If he goes down, I will be surprised (though pleased, as he is complicit, I do believe that).
Not that I'm trying to spread any nasty rumors...but I'm half-expecting to find Jeffrey Epstein involved in this...
Young children? Jeffrey Epstein? Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest, it's right up his alley.
Butbutbut...her E-mails!
Is this still a thing? You guys continue to poke fun about it, but it seems to me the complaint and the joke are long out of date.
I think if Clinton were to run again, the far thornier issue would be her support of Bill, an alleged rapist. In this MeToo era in which people believe all victims and Al Franken got ousted from a Senate seat for his idiotic behavior, Hillary would be raked across the coals ... and probably deservedly so.
https://www.vox.com/2018/10/15/17978156/hillary-clinton-monica-lewinsky-interview-bill-clinton-sexual-misconduct-metoo
Here's a heckler interrupting Clinton about it during a speech:
I'll also add that the Clintons are connected to Jeffrey Epstein. That's not a good look either.
Nor was I implying that anyone in this thread was defending Clinton, but please continue trying to obfuscate the real issues if that makes you happy.
When it hasn't focused on Trump's legal problems, this thread has been dipping into the presidential race, and folks here have been adding their two cents about candidates for the Democratic primaries. I was speculating that if Hillary threw her hat into the race again, she would have problems defending the support of her husband in a MeToo society. That apparently bothers you, for some reason.
Well, we'll just see, won't we? Clinton's had some credible accusers come forward with no connection to Epstein. Were Hillary to run again, she would have to deal with it.
I'd be perfectly fine seeing Trump go down in flames (in addition to the Clintons). But I'm not going to "assure" anybody of anything, because that's just stupid. Surely you understand.
Eh, well ... then again, I am communicating with the guy who actually believes that Trump's machinations are as bad as a dictator's systematic genocide -- so, yeah, maybe you don't get it at all.
Trump's machinations include (but are not limited to) systematically separating children from their parents and then just kinda losing track of them -- so yeah, his crimes are pretty bad. And your efforts to excuse them are pretty obvious. What I don't get is why you feel the need to keep excusing a man that about 70% of America has come to believe is guilty of criminal offenses.
Just trying to make sure I'm covered here: If one job is defending Trump on the internet... and a second job is defending the Republican party on the internet....and a third job is defending the NRA on the internet...and a fourth job is defending Russian meddling with our elections on the internet...then I've got my living wage, right? Who do I have to defend on the internet to get my health care?
One lawyer from the list who was recently stopped at a San Diego-area crossing, Nicole Ramos, refugee director for Al Otro Lado, a law center for migrants in Tijuana, Mexico, learned from NBC News that CBP had compiled a dossier of information on her. The dossier included personal details such as her mother’s name, her social media pictures, the car she drives and her work and travel history.
"The document ... appears to prove what we have assumed for some time, which is that we are on a law enforcement list designed to retaliate against human rights defenders who work with asylum-seekers and who are critical of CBP practices that violate the rights of asylum seekers," Ramos said.