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Oh very good Dr...'we are a rock,we are an island !"
Lovely....
Fake news?
Cultural, religious, political, national, ... pride is what's wrong with this world. It's funny how people openly "hate" Muslims and others for being so damn stubborn, while displaying the same stubbornness and intransigence, albeit in a different way. A people that conservatively clings to an old structure and develops a superiority complex within it, is destined to fail. The Romans have shown that.
My being Belgian / European is a geographical detail at best. I have taken control of my own life, rejected the religious dogma's of many of my fellow countrymen and refused to adopt the habits I disagree with. I have learned English, though nowhere in "my country" is it spoken. I just love English and the people who speak it. I have learned more than one system of measurement, though technically I only need the metric system. For practical reasons, I must obey the law. Many laws I disagree with but I'm not an anarchist. I vote, because I have to, but I loath the mess that is regional, national and European politics. As with everything else, there are good things to it and bad.
I don't take orders from tradition, the Church or the Belgian flag. Chauvinism is lost on me.
Sorry guys, can't help it. Good luck, but also good riddance.
:))
The feeling is mutual!
Keep your hand in your pocket for your yearly fees and when Greece,Italy or those lovely new countries next to the arab world that will be flooding in need you...enjoy !
That I certainly agree with. Some change is needed, and fast!
I'm just amazed how the Brits expect to have more advantages from being outside the EU than remaining inside. It's an absolute no-brainer that - at best - the Brits won't be treated any better than the Norwegians (and the rest of the EEA) and the Swiss. Which means that they have to allow freedom of goods, workers, services and capital with the single market and pay certain sums to have that advantage. They just no longer have the power to make the rules. Wonder how that will work out.
If you terminate your membership in a golf club you'll have to stop using the greens. Unless you pay a premium. That's what's going to happen.
Unfortunately, the EU was made a scapegoat for decades of poor government and economic mismanagement by our own parliament. At least now they'll have to find someone else to blame for their own incompetence.
I love being both British and European, but travelling to the continent these days it's difficult not to feel ashamed. Luckily I'm entitled to dual Irish nationality thanks to my grandmother, so I'll still enjoy the benefits of EU citizenship. I don't intend to be drawn into a debate; I come here to read about Bond films, and anyway, it's doesn't look like there's any going back on Brexit now. It just makes me sad to see anyone celebrating our country's retreat into irrelevance.
I do agree with you on this point. However, the all encompassing pessimism of the remoaners does wear thin when the doomsday scenario keeps being played on a loop.
You could be right of course, however I have faith enough in my country to allow me to look towards a future where the UK will be much better off in every respect.
Much is being made of the UKs access to the single market. Of course this is an important issue, but what of the EUs access to the UK market? If the EU wishes us to pay to access the single market, then is it not only correct that they pay to access ours?
To a Modern problem. After all if the EU is so good for the people of Europe. Why is there such large support in so many countries to leave. ?
Surely if it was this land of milk and honey, the remoaners make out, no one would want to leave !
I think it's the remoaners who have the rose tinted glasses on, seeing some make believe utopia.
Either way, in a union of richer and poorer nations it is inevitable that the richer nations pay part of the way for the others. And it was mostly the UK, as Washington's most loyal poodle, that pushed the most for rapidly enlarging the EU in the eastern direction, in spite of the dismal state of countries like Romania and Bulgaria.
It's all a question of what the advantages are on the other side of the equation. For Germany, it's clear that EU membership is a big gain because our industry is making loads of money from the single market, with the resulting tax generation exceeding the net payments to the union. I'm sure the same applies to the UK once one takes a closer look.
My personal net gain is to live in a more or less unified Europe, a continent that has been warring for seemingly forever until someone had the bright idea to form what turned into the EU. I'm all for open borders internally and for a single currency, its problems notwithstanding. Unified Europe is the best thing that happened to the world ever, period.
But they will. It's not as if we don't trade with the US or China. The single market just makes things a whole lot simpler by doing away with customs and tariffs and all that nonsense that nobody would need in the future, were it not for a small majority of British voters that wants to sacrifice those advantages for being able to kick out foreigners and pretend they still owned an empire.
Jesus. Just off the top of my head I think discovering fire, inventing language, the wheel, the written word, the printing press, taming electricity and flight might all beg to differ.
How about discovering we don't need a god to explain the universe? ;-)
In fairness to @j_w_pepper's risible comment above I would say that the EU has made a more valuable contribution to mankind than our ancestors coming up with some infantile fairy tales to make sense of phenomena they didn't have the tools to explain. Although it's not so much their fault as they had no other explanations available to them. The real blame lies with people who have full access to scientific facts still adhering to this drivel.
Unfortunately, that's where you tripped yourself up. Thinking you can offer an explanation as to why I, and others, voted out.
Thats below the belt...where are you from by the way ? I would say Germany maybe ?
In a world of nuclear weapons, there is perhaps another natural deterrent to this kind of historic savage behaviour.
The losing side made the same mistake on the other side of the pond. It's simpler (and perhaps more self serving rather than merely misguided) to ignore the fundamental economic drivers of these landmark decisions and focus more on the racial elements.
1) How realistic is it, according to you, that Scotland will soon become independent and re-join the EU?
2) If that happens, how will this damage--if at all--England?
3) What do you predict will Wales do?
You see, I had a chat the day before yesterday in a Dutch bar of all places with two former RAF pilots. We were all visiting the Netherlands as tourists and joined a few drinks in the evening. Naturally, BREXIT was the preferred topic of conversation, for them even more so than for me and my friends to be fair. They were very much pro-BREXIT "in principle", and had in fact voted "out", but one called Nigel Farage "a ******* wanker" and the other expressed some concern over the future of the UK given how intensely the Scottish independence is being prepared. This Englishman said he'd rather not see Scotland leave. When I asked him why, I must admit that his responses were a bit muddled, no doubt due to the heavy drinking to which most there present had committed...
(Fun fact, when asking why they had joined "the army", both guys looked at me like I was a lower life form. The RAF isn't "the army". A valuable lesson learned. ;-))
2.It wouldn't damage England at all.
3.Wales will stay with England whatever happens,the same goes for Northern Ireland.
And,DD,you are lucky you only got a dirty look from the RAF pilots,you got off lightly !!
Can't see it happening. Too many obstacles in the way, they'll have to apply to join the EU
Which can take several years, they have to adopt the Euro etc. Also England puts far more money
Into the regions like Scotland, Wales and N.Ireland than they could ever generate themselves.
I hope the Union holds, but if Scotland leaves, I will wish them well, and would be really upset.