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Agree with all of this but unfortunately I think the Conservatives will probably still take it. Just look at Question Time from last night; nobody would shut up about f***ing Trident (one guy even got applause for bringing it up again saying I'd rather have it and not use it when Corbyn had just said that they had no plans on getting rid of it) even though he'd made it clear that they weren't getting rid of it, but would rather focus on the here and now, working towards global disarmment, than think about hypothetical scenarios where he might have to use it. For whatever reason people seem keen to just ignore the points he's making because it doesn't fit the image of him that they have in their heads. Britain doesn't deserve someone like Corbyn in power and as much as I hope I'm wrong, I think that's gonna be evident on June 9th.
The guy is a weak,union loving leftie !
What about Diane Abbot as Home Secretary?! She'd be off with a migraine the first time she was asked to deal with a terrorist incident.
I used to have a low opinion of Corbyn but he's grown on me.
Equally, I thought May was better than she actually is. She appears incapable of thinking or speaking on her feet.
Agree entirely.
At least Corbyn is a man who stands by his principles - even if said principles are Communism and consorting with terrorists. I wouldn't go as far to say I admire him (as I find his position on the IRA sickening) like I did Tony Benn but at least he's not one of the identikit political class spouting the same scripted drivel.
May has shown herself to be as clueless as village idiot Cameron but at least he had the bottle to turn up to the debate when similarly shamed into it and not just mug everyone off and saying 'Don't care what you all think. I'm not coming.' Shame none of the TV companies would have the bottle to go with the tub of lard technique to make her look ridiculous.
I think she's called this election because she thinks she can get over the line due to Corbyn's ineptitude and she knows against anyone half decent she'd be in real trouble so can't leave it another couple of years. She's making a big enough meal of it as it is against the most feeble Labour Party since the 70s.
For a brief second I thought she might be another Maggie but in the words of Malcolm Tucker she's 'not even Manchester's best Mrs Thatcher tribute act.'
I would love to see her face as she leaves Downing Street on 11th June after losing the election. She'd be one of the shortest lived PMs ever I think.
The EU can't be blamed for Farage and Johnson taking the population to the cleaners on this issue. That has nothing to do with "dictating" but is simple common sense.
It's about accepting the UK decision with grace.
Many in Brussels still want to make a warning example with the UK so no other country dare even try to do a referendum.
By the way, what do you think would the Germans vote?
If the people could decide, the EU would be history within one year. And it should. Because it has become an autocratic monster that is dictated by high finance corporations and especially the finance sector via their puppets in Brussels.
And no, I'm not a far right voter. I am social liberal and pretty much left of the center even with most topics, but I hate autocracy, neo-liberalism and centralisationed government structures.
We do, though we don't like it in spite of those who keep saying the UK has been enjoying a semi-free ride ("I want my money back!") for far too long. But that doesn't mean we are going to ultimately finance the benefits that the UK keeps deriving while not taking part itself.
That's what you say. I don't. The final agreement will be sort of along the lines of Norway and Switzerland, if the UK agrees to freedom of movement like they do. Do you as a Swiss feel humiliated?
We don't have referendums on a federal level, and I wholeheartedly endorse this. But I'm pretty sure that at least 80 per cent (that's everyone minus the lunatic right and left fringe) would be for remaining.
Bullshit.
The bureaucratic monster has 33,000 employees, fewer than the city governments of the likes of Manchester or Hamburg (though better paid, but then they should be - they govern 500 million people somehow). Also, in many regards they replace national public servants, whatever you think of centralisation. Actually, I think it's a rather streamlined system, hindered only by too much requirement of representing every member state.
And with that the-banksters-run-everything argument, you'll probably be saying the same about national politicians, so where's the difference? Not that I subscribe to that tin-foil hat hypothesis either way.
The perceived deficits in democracy are due to the fact that the cases where there is a pure majority decision are limited - because every member state might find a reason to object to being outvoted. And those people complaining the most about a lack of democracy are usually the same that always protest that member states cannot do what they want. The EU is as democratic as the U.S. system where Rhode Island has as many senators as California, but I, for one, am ready to do away with the equality of member states in that regard, if that is your dream.
Oh, and by the way, when you ask people what they dislike about the EU, hardly anyone can come up with anything worse than "They are trying to prescribe the curvature of cucumbers." Which, by the way, is a thing of the past.
It's better than any alternative. A system that is not liberal, both socially and economically, cannot remain a democracy for long in my view. I'm convinced that the EU is the best thing that happened to Europe and world peace, and I'm all for the United States of Europe to happen today rather than tomorrow while being aware that this is a pipe dream for now. Nationalists (and I might add religious radicals, but that's not a real problem within Europe) are the main obstacle to a future without wars.
I think the Brits and the Swiss will have a beautiful friendship.
Sorry but forget about loser ISIS, Brexit is clearly the biggest crisis facing the UK and it's 100% self inflicted.
As for Britain, if you dislike both May and Corbyn (both probably warranted), whom would you support? It doesn't sound like you'd be a happy Lib-Dem (or SNP, or DUP) supporter either. Apart from being Swiss anyway.
No doubt the EU would like Britain to reconsider (they've pretty much said as much) and with their new found solidarity (even if possibly skin deep), it will be difficult for Britain to extract meaningful concessions.
I hope it doesn't happen, but have a feeling it will.
Macron was a surprise to me. I didn't think Le Pen would win, but I didn't think he would show up out of nowhere. I thought Fillon had a shot initially, until his troubles overwhelmed him. That's a country where the voters went with the media flow, and I didn't think they would. The alternative was perhaps just too scary.
It's possible, but personally I doubt anything would come of it. IMHO any 'vote until you reach the 'correct' verdict' would make a mockery of the whole system and throw the whole country into even more chaos. Many who wanted to remain should have got up off their arses and voted first time around. The UK voted out - end of. Oh, but it was by such a slim majority I hear the cry. It doesn't matter, the vote returned was to leave. Had the country voted to remain by the same margin, and 'leavers' continued to rattle the pots and pans, the remainers would say exactly the same thing.
As this drags out, and after the fiasco of a few days ago, there is a distinct possibility that something could happen. This feels like a divorce that some may be having second thoughts about, as the settlement likely won't be as beneficial as initially thought.
Damn shame the EU won't budge on its immigration 'pillar'.
My point is more that the mood has probably shifted in the UK since the vote. Unlike a normal referendum election where one gets the benefit of the result implemented right away, this divorce is going to take some time and be quite messy. By the time it's implemented the majority of the country may feel quite differently.
It's a strange vote in that respect, since the separation and all of its problems come a long time after the actual vote.