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Again, this is your chance to say whatever you would have done differently with the film, so things like; plot changes, character additions or subtractions. Anything you like. People will be given the chance to give their responses within 7 DAYS from today (this may change so let me know if you want me to extend the time for longer) until the discussion moves on to the next James Bond film. This will run until we reach SKYFALL as a discussion for SPECTRE already exists.
Looking forward to hearing what you guys think.
And Blofeld in drag is unworthy. A disguise is fine, but think of something better.
There are also a few gadgets too much, rat trap in pocket, voice distorter, slot machine ring.
The oil rig finale is also pretty bad. Other than that, fun movie as a follow-up to YOLT.
The Mustang problem (miraculously changing the tilt to the other side while going through an alley too narrow for doing this) is another one that may be minor overall, but shows a total and deplorable sloppyness on the part of the producers. So, by the way, is the unnecessarily and literally repeated text in the initial explanation of the issue by Sir What's-his-name (don't feel like looking it up right now). Isn't anyone checking the product before final release?
Why is there light inside a coffin about to be incinerated and inside a pipeline buried underground?
I'd probably find more issues but stop thinking of them for now. All in all, while I find the dialogue to be among the funniest of the series, a total mess due to nobody really caring to make it consistent.
All good points.
Bond and MI6 were afraid Blofeld would be suspicious if Phidan simply died. So they made it look like he died in a train wreck with other people. Hence, the train car full of dead bodies.
The remnant of the idea is in the film with the newspaper headline about 19 people dying in a train wreck.
David Picker at United Artists was so desperate to get Connery back, there's no way he'd argue with him about weight, etc. Broccoli and Saltzman were prepared to move on from Big Tam. It was Picker who forced the issue. The hair stylists wanted fuller hairpieces. Big Tam wanted smaller ones. Put another way: Don't blame the hair stylists (people with limited influence) for doing what their bosses wanted.
The train of corpses is a terrible idea.
But it's one of the best scenes in the film! By casting someone as virile as Savalas and as clever as Rigg, it is movie magic. And Rigg's Tracy quoting poetry makes a lot more sense than say, M, in SF.
Blofeld's drag doesn't bother me (especially if it were a truly tense manhunt, why not masquerade as a woman?), although Gray plays it as campy.
The film needed more Wint and Kidd, for sure. I would have preferred them be tougher, like the kicking scene from the novel.
I'd get rid of the moon landing/moon buggy nonsense.
Come to think of it, I'd have preferred a straightforward "shutting down the pipeline" narrative (which is pretty effective in the film), rather than the over-the-top laser random plot.
More like Blofeld needs to collect the diamonds to finance a bigger scheme.
I think the Lake Mead/salt mine chase would have been a lot better than what we got. I'm not sure why they ended up in the salt mine, though...
I couldn't agree more. The Plenty scenes and the coffin scene never made sense.
I don't mind Vegas as a setting because it really was an adult playground back then, and exotic enough. But get rid of all the nonsense in Circus Circus. So dumb.
If ever a Bond film deserved a proper casino sequence, it's DAF.
Hopefully it pays off again in 2019 (and this time I certainly hope EON insist on weight loss and whatever else it takes to be presentable including better tailored suits).
* Make Wint and Kidd more menacing (perhaps include the Tingaling Bell scene from the book).
* Get rid of that dull oil rig finale! Use Spectreville and the train chase, but with some extra action.
* Don't film the damn thing after OHMSS! No Blofeld or Spectre, just use the mob and Spang twins from the book, and correct Fleming's mistake by giving them more screentime and more evil deeds.
* Cast a better actress as Tiffany Case and make her the vulnerable, richly drawn character Fleming gave us, not a silly bimbo.
* Let Peter Hunt direct. Or anyone who isn't named Guy Hamilton.
* No Bambi and Thumper, no Willard Whyte, no interminable scenes at Circus Circus.
As popular as it is here to wish for a Lazenby revenge themed DAF, I don't really like that idea. I'm glad Sean came back and I find his performance here great. I wouldn't ant George or Roger in this one, really. Though I am a bit curious what Gavin might have done, but not enough to sacrifice a 6th Connery outing.
As for his appearance, being cast so late in the game after 4 years of taking roles that strayed away from the Bond image, I think he looked fine. Sure he didn't have time to get back into THUNDERBALL shape, but he still looks strong and imposing. In addition I think many of his suits, tailored to his bigger physique compliment him. I do think a toupee similar to what he would later wear in CUBA would have flattered him more. Bond in DIAMONDS looks like he hasn't had a trim in awhile.
Overall I love DAF the way it is, and it hits the spot whenever I pop it in.
That's pretty much it. They could have kept the PTS maybe, to bring some closure to the events of the first movie but I guess they wanted to keep Blofeld.
Me too. They're well put.
--It was Q (!) who smuggled the *real* diamonds -- inside of golf balls.
--Tiffany's real hair color was blonde.
--Line from Tiffany: "And Franks, for God’s sake, don’t come up with any lousy ideas like hollow golf balls or wooden legs."
Details (scroll down to the Diamonds Are Forever section)
https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/hmss-archive-the-bond-too-big-for-007/
At least get another actor and rewrite the dialogue. Someone with the same function is welcome to stay.
That's what I thought too. In fact, the genesis of the finished film script was Cubby Broccoli's dream about the Howard Hughes imposter. So, we still need Willard Whyte. It's the catalyst for the rest of the film.
Well it's not. I mean someone could have said: let's ditch this imposter idea and do something much closer to the novel.They could have used the imposter plot when they'd ran out of Fleming stories. It's not a bad starting point per se. It just does not work well with DAF.
Yes, Yes and YES to this entire post. There was no reason Sean could not have looked basically the same as he did in Thunderball.
Trim those eyebrows? «You're joking!» In all seriousness, they annoy me, as well. So much that it's probably the thing that I like the least about the film! Trimmed eyebrows, and he'd look 5-7 years younger, no matter his overall fitness.
It would require some effort to raise one. :D
Roger Moore with those eyebrows would have won an Oscar. Wouldn't find a more expressive performance than that!
Yes, he must have done. Here's two shots from more or less the same angle. The difference is huge:
Had Eon gone ahead with its original plan to use Goldfinger's twin brother as the villain with a completely different scheme, would they have even made the effort to make it appear Bond is avenging her death in the pre-credits or would they have ignored it completely?
Some alternative histories go down as narrow escapes from oblivion which is exactly what Gavin would've been; although James Brolin an even closer shave with Bondian Armageddon. The doomsday clock came exceedingly close to midnight on both of those; effectively the Cuban Missile Crisis of the series when we really were on the brink.
Interesting point. Was the only reason this was binned because Frobe wouldn't do it?
It's so very easy to castigate Babs for the shambles of SP when Cubby and Harry were happy to make some utterly ludicrous decisions too. I'm sure we all remember Harry and the elephant shoes?
I do think Babs gets a hard time of it when they tend to get something of a free pass at times. Not that that's going to stop me laying into her. And at least the elephant shoes didn't make it to the screen to be fair - unlike brothergate.