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The ones on the left look shit. They are not intended for use in a Bond film.
Bond films should be Colourful and Clear.
Fcuk the d65 grayscale or whatever it's called.................. :)
Every cinematographer/cinema adheres to the d65 greyscale .....
Yeah notice how unnatural the sky in the bottom image is - ghastly.
Why should? I didn't adjust the colors for someone else to say "this is the correct color- or greyscale". I corrected them to my own liking. To look as good as possible on my projector. And my own liking is not like the fixed grade posted above. Sorry, but I like your sample almost as less as the orginal. For me - it looks lifeless.
Don't blame me, that is the original shot.
So basically this whole thread is for your own personal colour grading then?
No. Just being friendly to other forummembers ;-)
Like i said ,Bond films should be Colourful and Clear. Not yellow and dark.
I watched FRWL last night and the colours are great.
"Movies are created and meant to be displayed at D65 color temperature, so if your TV is calibrated properly to D65, you are that much closer to seeing what the content creators intended. "
From "CHROMAPURE GRAYSCALE & COLOR CALIBRATION FOR 5̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶ ̶o̶l̶ DUMMIES"
http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=35322
They look terrible mate.
Mabey also sugestion of stairs walking in Marocco, but with desert i disagree.
Scene i mist in your sugestion is shangai. Then i mean elevator scene already start when Bond sitting in his car waiting outside of bulding. Macau outside of the Casino. Don't think inside of the casino need inprovement.
Overall Skyfall needs the moost inprovenent because it is digital filmt. Thats the biggest problem, besides that i dislike some scenes . But with the sugestions you did exept the train scene i prefer the original.
What's digital film? My understanding is that digital cameras don't use film - hence they are digital!
You'll have to excuse Balje's broken English. He does his best but in this case I think the implications of what he was saying was rather obvious.
What's digital film?
Bond films should be like the director wants them to be. I think we're focussing way too much on technical details here and let that prevail (or cloud) our criticism about more important things like...story and plot. Ask yourself if FRWL or OHMSS would really have been much worse if they used Hoyte van Hoytema's or Roger Deakins' color filters. This discussion starts to become a bit sad really, and because of it we're only fuelling our boundless and in many ways unfounded negativity of our criticism of the overall final product.
Well, I do think we should be allowed to have an opinion on the matter and discuss about it. This discussion is not silly at all IMO. I think calling it silly is a little silly to be honest.
The trouble is too many people have bad (erroneous) opinions on it!
Well this is Fan Creations, so it's ok to take a view on such matters. Plus, any forum will kick up individual opinion.
Yes, maybe all post should go through a review proces so that bad 'erroneous' opinions can get filtered out.
Absolutely!
I do hope you didn't take that comment seriously @NicNac
Well, I did, but I can second guess what you will say next. ;)
Why would you take that comment seriously - it was a joke!
Why do you try to speak on the behalf of others?
Yes, you were correct. You already tried to make your point once: that "Bond films should be like the director wants them to be." No tampering, no creativity allowed for fans, etc... Well, this is the fans creations section, so I actually understand if you might feel:
Off course you should have an opinion. Just like me @Jeffrey :-). I don't think I'm particularly harsh in my comment. It's just what I think. By the way, I never used the word 'silly'. Still, I do think older Bond films never had to endure such dissections way back then. Are we really discussing the bad aspects of cinematography and editing skills for the 1960's Bond films? I don't think so, because they had the advantage to be glorified over the course of 5 decades. Even the bad/less good ones, like YOLT.