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  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    I find the trio of David O'Russell, Bradley Cooper and in particular Jennifer Lawrence grossly overrated. Their movies are mean spirited and depressing.

    I love Silver Linings Playbook. Don't think its mean spirited at all.
  • BondStuBondStu Moonraker 6
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    @j_w_pepper I know exactly what you mean about The Green Mile.

    And I know EXACTLY what it's problem is: They didn't try and make a movie, they tried to film a novel. When adapting something from one medium to another certain changes HAVE to be made to story/structure to make the transition successful. What works in a book doesn't necessarily work onscreen.

    It's something Peter Jackson got EXACTLY RIGHT when he made The Lord Of The Rings movies.

    Darabont and Co's slavish dedication to the novel was it's undoing. The resulting film had no mystery nor element of surprise.

    Where it goes wrong is when we see John Coffey resurrect the mouse. We'd already seen the warden's wife with the brain tumour so we IMMEDIATELY knew what was eventually going to happen. Was there really any damn point in staying to watch the rest of the movie?

    What should have happened is we see them give the mouse to Coffey - and then cut straight after to the mouse running around. So we may have an IDEA of what might have happened - but not seeing it still gives the audience some semblance of mystery and a reason to stay and watch the rest of the movie...

    Then when he heals the warden's wife - we THEN have a FLASHBACK to what happened with the mouse, juxtaposed with him wiping away the brain tumour. We'd have had double the impact.

    THAT'S how movies should work.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    I just came to realize, that generally I like Hammer's films in the 70's more than those of the 60's. In the sense that the 70's contain more of my favourites despite the studio's funding being in decline.
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    I just came to realize, that generally I like Hammer's films in the 70's more than those of the 60's. In the sense that the 70's contain more of my favourites despite the studio's funding being in decline.

    I love the '70's Hammer period as well. VAMPIRE CIRCUS, DR JEKYLL AND SISTER HYDE, CAPTAIN KRONOS VAMPIRE HUNTER are all excellent, IMO.
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    This will be steering the thread off topic, but for someone that has yet to really dig into Hammer films, which films are a must to check out?
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    This will be steering the thread off topic, but for someone that has yet to really dig into Hammer films, which films are a must to check out?

    Some of my favorites:


    DRACULA (1958) a.k.a HORROR OF DRACULA
    THE CURSE OF FRANKENSTEIN (1957)
    THE HOUND OF THE BASKERVILLES (1959)
    THE MUMMY (1959)
    THE CURSE OF THE WEREWOLF (1961)
    THE BRIDES OF DRACULA (1960)
    SHE (1965)
    FRANKENSTEIN CREATED WOMAN (1967)
    DRACULA HAS RISEN FROM THE GRAVE (1968)
    FRANKENSTEIN MUST BE DESTROYED (1970)
    THE VAMPIRE LOVERS (1970)
    TWINS OF EVIL (1971)
    VAMPIRE CIRCUS (1971)
    CAPTAIN KRONOS VAMPIRE HUNTER (1974)


    Actually any of the Christopher Lee Dracula films and Peter Cushing Frankenstein movies are fun. Some better than others, but still great, IMO.

    Also some of the other genre films like

    WHEN DINOSAURS RULED THE EARTH (1970)

    and ONE MILLION YEARS B.C. (1966) are fun.
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    This will be steering the thread off topic, but for someone that has yet to really dig into Hammer films, which films are a must to check out?

    Some of my favorites:


    DRACULA (1958) a.k.a HORROR OF DRACULA
    THE CURSE OF FRANKENSTEIN (1957)
    THE HOUND OF THE BASKERVILLES (1959)
    THE MUMMY (1959)
    THE CURSE OF THE WEREWOLF (1961)
    THE BRIDES OF DRACULA (1960)
    SHE (1965)
    FRANKENSTEIN CREATED WOMAN (1967)
    DRACULA HAS RISEN FROM THE GRAVE (1968)
    FRANKENSTEIN MUST BE DESTROYED (1970)
    THE VAMPIRE LOVERS (1970)
    TWINS OF EVIL (1971)
    VAMPIRE CIRCUS (1971)
    CAPTAIN KRONOS VAMPIRE HUNTER (1974)


    Actually any of the Christopher Lee Dracula films and Peter Cushing Frankenstein movies are fun. Some better than others, but still great, IMO.

    Also some of the other genre films like

    WHEN DINOSAURS RULED THE EARTH (1970)

    and ONE MILLION YEARS B.C. (1966) are fun.

    Thanks @ToTheRight, I'll make a note of these! Always wanted to see The Hound of The Baskervilles in particular, but I've never had the chance.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    @Torgeirtrap Definitely a great list full of recommendations by @ToTheRight.

    Some lesser well-liked films that I personally love are:

    - THE DEVIL RIDES OUT, actually this one is rather well-liked but was not included in the list above ;))
    - SCARS OF DRACULA
    - LUST FOR A VAMPIRE
    - BLOOD FROM THE MUMMY'S TOMB
    - DRACULA AD 1972
    - THE SATANIC RITES OF DRACULA

    Happy viewings! :)
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    @Torgeirtrap Definitely a great list full of recommendations by @ToTheRight.

    Some lesser well-liked films that I personally love are:

    - THE DEVIL RIDES OUT, actually this one is rather well-liked but was not included in the list above ;))
    - SCARS OF DRACULA
    - LUST FOR A VAMPIRE
    - BLOOD FROM THE MUMMY'S TOMB
    - DRACULA AD 1972
    - THE SATANIC RITES OF DRACULA

    Happy viewings! :)

    I highly recommend those as well!
  • edited February 2020 Posts: 17,740
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    @Torgeirtrap Definitely a great list full of recommendations by @ToTheRight.

    Some lesser well-liked films that I personally love are:

    - THE DEVIL RIDES OUT, actually this one is rather well-liked but was not included in the list above ;))
    - SCARS OF DRACULA
    - LUST FOR A VAMPIRE
    - BLOOD FROM THE MUMMY'S TOMB
    - DRACULA AD 1972
    - THE SATANIC RITES OF DRACULA

    Happy viewings! :)
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    @Torgeirtrap Definitely a great list full of recommendations by @ToTheRight.

    Some lesser well-liked films that I personally love are:

    - THE DEVIL RIDES OUT, actually this one is rather well-liked but was not included in the list above ;))
    - SCARS OF DRACULA
    - LUST FOR A VAMPIRE
    - BLOOD FROM THE MUMMY'S TOMB
    - DRACULA AD 1972
    - THE SATANIC RITES OF DRACULA

    Happy viewings! :)

    I highly recommend those as well!

    Added all of these to the list as well, @GoldenGun! A few of these are available for digital download on Google Play/Apple TV, so that should get me started :-)
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    Controversial opinion:

    I prefer PREDATOR 2 starring Danny Glover over the original Arnold epic.
    I like Glover's performance, the production design, costumes, and of course Robert Davi appears in the film.
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Controversial opinion:

    I prefer PREDATOR 2 starring Danny Glover over the original Arnold epic.
    I like Glover's performance, the production design, costumes, and of course Robert Davi appears in the film.

    It's not bad, but it has nothing on Predators Arnie vs. Creature smackdown climax, which is wonderfully staged!
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Controversial opinion:

    I prefer PREDATOR 2 starring Danny Glover over the original Arnold epic.
    I like Glover's performance, the production design, costumes, and of course Robert Davi appears in the film.

    You'd better run for the chopper............

    Arnies Predator is an original and quite brilliant.
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    BondStu wrote: »
    I also find Tarantino grossly overrated.

    I quite enjoy some of his movies, but I'd agree. He casts well and has a good eye, but his characters have more attitude than character and want to shock for the sake of it.

    So many great concepts and casts harmed by the endless self-congratulatory cleverness. I do enjoy some of his films, but he is definitely THAT guy who always thinks he is the smartest guy in the room, loves everyone to know it, yet seldom is.
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    I loved Forrest Gump when I saw it as a 15-year old back in 1994. I thought now as an adult the movie wouldn’t work for me anymore and I’d find it irritatingly trite.

    Nope, still like it, despite my better judgement.

    It's like a Bond film. Just shut your mind-off and enjoy. I think the movie has a unique appeal to Americans too due to the subject matter.
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    Tracy wrote: »
    Batman TAS and Mask of Phantasm are the best version of Bats imo

    Sub Zero is okay too
    TAS is the best cartoon ever made.
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Controversial opinion:

    I prefer PREDATOR 2 starring Danny Glover over the original Arnold epic.
    I like Glover's performance, the production design, costumes, and of course Robert Davi appears in the film.

    Predator 2 is a fun watch. But I’m still with majority opinion on this one: the first is the best. I like the slow reversal of technology in it. It starts off with helicopters and stuff and the weapons get more and more basic as the film progresses, until at the end Arnie and the Pred are essentially fighting each other with sticks.

    My controversial opinion about the Pred series is that Predators, the one with Adrien Brody and Walton Goggins stuck on another planet, is a great film to watch, nearly as good as the original.
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    The funny thing about Forest Gump is at the time it was competing with Pulp Fiction during awards season it was sort of an us against them thing: feel good with popular actor vs. hip, new thing dangerous anti-establishment film and the mainstream and more conservative heads found Gump more friendly in that way. I was among the pro-Pulp crowd during that period.

    When I did see Gump, I liked it. I still do, although it gets overplayed on cable all the time. It's good filmmaking and feels sincere. Pulp is also still fresh and I have no problem saying both are landmarks in cinema.
  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
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    I love both Pulp Fiction and Forrest Gump. For the Academy Award for Best Picture for the year 1994, however, my ideal pick would be The Shawshank Redemption.
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    I love both Pulp Fiction and Forrest Gump. For the Academy Award for Best Picture for the year 1994, however, my ideal pick would be The Shawshank Redemption.

    I will add a controversial opinion on back of this: I have never seen Shawshank Redemption and don't really have any desire to. Trivia fact: The prison it was filmed at is one I've driven near many times as it's in the state of Ohio where I live.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Speaking of Quentin Tarantino, I have to say, Inglorious Basterds is his overrated film. If it wasn’t for Christoph Waltz, that movie would be a snooze-festival and only driven by QT’s ego and his version of history.
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    1994 was a pretty good year for movies. I'd go with SHAWSHANK, myself over FORREST GUMP. ED WOOD was my favorite film that year, actually.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    1994 was a pretty good year for movies. I'd go with SHAWSHANK, myself over FORREST GUMP. ED WOOD was my favorite film that year, actually.

    Ed Wood was the last worthwhile Tim Burton/Johnny Depp movie. For 1994, I also love Clerks, great dialogue.
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    I love both Pulp Fiction and Forrest Gump. For the Academy Award for Best Picture for the year 1994, however, my ideal pick would be The Shawshank Redemption.

    Now that is a controversial opinion!
  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
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    Clerks and Ed Wood are great. 👍 Ed Wood might be my second favorite Tim Burton film, with Edward Scissorhands bring my top pick. Well, I do love Beetlejuice about as much as Ed Wood.

    As for Kevin Smith, i slightly prefer Chasing Amy to Clerks.

    @jobo Is it that controversial? Shawshank is damn great, though rather under appreciated it it’s initial release. I assume what I said is controversial because Pulp Fiction is more beloved, but I find Shawshank a more rewarding and rewatchable film. And anyway, no matter how much I love Pulp Fiction, my favorite Tarantino film is actually Jackie Brown.
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    Clerks and Ed Wood are great. 👍 Ed Wood might be my second favorite Tim Burton film, with Edward Scissorhands bring my top pick. Well, I do love Beetlejuice about as much as Ed Wood.

    As for Kevin Smith, i slightly prefer Chasing Amy to Clerks.

    @jobo Is it that controversial? Shawshank is damn great, though rather under appreciated it it’s initial release. I assume what I said is controversial because Pulp Fiction is more beloved, but I find Shawshank a more rewarding and rewatchable film. And anyway, no matter how much I love Pulp Fiction, my favorite Tarantino film is actually Jackie Brown.


    Well, for me personally it´s controversial ;) I have always found Shawshank quite underwhelming (Although the Family Guy parodi is hilarious) while I consider Pulp Fiction a masterpiece for the ages.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    I posted in the wrong thread :-$
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    Is there anyone in the whole wide world who actually likes Exorcist II: The Heretic?

    Sure, it's terrible as a sequel to The Exorcist. But I love it as a zany nightmarish trip into nonsensical madness, with atmospheric cinematography and a top-notch score by Morricone. In a way, it feels more like an Italian horror film than a big budget sequel.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    Is there anyone in the whole wide world who actually likes Exorcist II: The Heretic?

    Sure, it's terrible as a sequel to The Exorcist. But I love it as a zany nightmarish trip into nonsensical madness, with atmospheric cinematography and a top-notch score by Morricone. In a way, it feels more like an Italian horror film than a big budget sequel.

    I really want to see it, Martin Scorsese said he likes it better than the original.

    http://www.tasteofcinema.com/2017/10-guilty-pleasure-movies-from-martin-scorsese/2/
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    Is there anyone in the whole wide world who actually likes Exorcist II: The Heretic?

    I like some bits of it. The scenes in the rock-cut church in Ethiopia are actually pretty good, I think.

    Overall though it’s bonkers, and bonkers enough to enjoy watching. I genuinely laughed out loud when I saw Richard Burton try to put out a fire by hitting the flames with a crutch. It is never dull, I’ll grant it that.

    It’s problem though is that it isn’t scary, whereas The Exorcist was very scary for its time, and Exorcist III has the best single jump scare I have ever seen in my fifty years of watching films.

    A bit of a shame really. It was made by John Boorman who had just made Deliverance, you’d think he would be a perfect fit. Deliverance is pretty tense and scary.
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