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Yes - the plot is silly. But it is fun and beautiful, which is why I watch Bond movies.
Since TWSLM is basically a remake of YOLT, shouldn't that be in the mix, or is space the common theme considered?
Though it has become a film I can go along for the ride and ignore the silliness. Much like YOLT, TSWLM and MR.
TSWLM...why would Stromberg wait for Bond and Anya to get to shore? He has shown himself to be ruthless, now he wants to suddenly wait for them to get away.
LALD...lets put Bond in a croc farm and then all leave so he gets a chance to escape from death.
TMWTGG...Scaramenga could have blown up the plane. But that would have been "ridiculously easy". As if that would stop someone from killing.
MR...Drax "see that some harm comes to him." Why not just kill Bond, why harm him.
YOLT...Brandt has Bond tied up and gets the info she wanted, instead she decides to release him and fly with him and then plot a death that is easily escapable.
GE...Alex puts the timers on the bombs for 3 minutes while Bond and Natalaya are in the train. Why not 30 seconds?
Bond villains don't kill Bond when they get the chance because they're megalomaniacal. Their love of theatrics / poetics go hand in hand with them being big time supervillains. If Silva or Trevelyan did things like small time criminals / murderers did, they would be small time criminals / murderers.
You can't have the grand schemes of these villains without their grand theatrics, IMO. They're arrogant, egotistical, proud of themselves and want to show off.
She wanted the diddily first.
TSWLM: Stromberg probably wanted it to make it look like anyone could've killed Bond and Anya and not bring attention to his activities, like with the two scientists. Plus he didn't know for sure if they were the ones on the train until Jaws positively IDd them. And he didn't know the Lotus was rigged with gadgets to help them escape the attacks.
LALD: No explanation here other than it's Batman '66 villain syndrome: leaving the heroes to die and not making sure.
TMWTGG: Scaramanga's ego won't let him kill Bond that way. Plain and simple.
MR: Drax probably just saw Bond as a pest and that scaring him would get him to leave following that. He likely didn't know he was a 00 and even said he was there to appreciate in person for the loss of the shuttle. Besides, Drax lets Bond confirm his suspicions by breaking into his safe and then tries to do him in when he knows for sure, failing for sure.
YOLT: Yeah, another why not just shoot him moment. My question is how long did it take Aki to get back to Tiger, who could've sent in his people, unless somebody did and made the GF Leiter mistake of thinking Bond had it handled.
GE: Maybe giving them time to get far enough away before the explosives go off?
Spectre isn't almost hated here, it is hated. There was a discussion some time ago where it came to be an AVTAK appreciation thread almost. I had chimed in that if even AVTAK could be positively reappraised, than maybe someday SP might get the same, to which a few people replied, essentially, that would never happen. I've seen many members rank DAD over SP, which, okay, it's all opinion, but I would be saying to myself, really? Really? Cringeworthy dialogue, a lame villain and windsurfing on a CGI wave over SP? QOS once got an inordinate amount of hate but now it's seen by the majority of fans here as pretty damn good. I don't think we'll ever get there with SP. Oh well, whatever. I still enjoy the hell out of it whenever I watch it, even with it's issues.
@Birdleson, as a great 'enjoyer' of Spectre, I 100% agree with you that boredom is probably the worst crime a Bond film can commit. For whatever reason, I am quite gripped by the events of Spectre (while having the same narrative issues that you, and most, have), right up until the "fourth act" in London, a problem that isn't exactly new to the Craig era (IMO).
Personally I find parts of Casino Royale (the stuff after Bond's tortured, basically) and Skyfall (watching Bond work out and get ready to be a spy again, preparing the traps in Skyfall Manor) strike a bit of boredom in me TBH. IMO all these films have incredible elements throughout, and I still have a great love of them all.
+1 pretty much sums up my thoughts, well said.
ICBM-style rocket launches -- at night -- can be seen up to 100 miles away with the naked eye. (I actually got to see a night-time NASA lift-off, in Florida, as a child in the '60s.)
So -- is everybody on Ama Island effing blind? What about ships at sea or passing aircraft?
It's simply beyond stupid.
But it's more the ride getting there, isn't it? You already know going in that Bond will do something to divert the world from being destroyed on the high end or prevent the worst, but how's he going to do it, how evil are the people perpetrating it and how much will the girl helping Bond, the gadgets, supporting characters, etc. going to contribute?
I don't think the plot was the main problem here. A secret organization causing terrorist attacks internationally in order to convince the world to join a surveillance program as a framework is fine; execution is where SP failed. Hamfisting Spectre/Blofeld into Craig's era the way they did was the problem, trying to retcon all of his films was the problem. Huge missed opportunity, as I've said. But Spectre's problem, I don't think, was the plot.
Yeah I suppose you're right. That's what I was getting at with the "hamfisting Spectre/Blofeld" into this era comment. A bigger problem for some but I still enjoy watching the film.
Give me the villain who chews up the scenery and has a plan for world domination!