Bond gets butchered on TV

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  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    But due to David Arnold's score over the sequence, the music sounds funny.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Unfortunately BBC America isn't playing those anymore.
  • When I taped Dr No of the telly for the first time back in the late 80's they used a shot of Bond in Diamonds are Forever (when he aims and shoots Blofeld) as the title card for the advert breaks.

    This is the version that I watched for years. Then, when I bought all the films in '97 on VHS in Widescreen, I realised that the version I taped off the box had a few seconds cut.
    It's minimal but hopefully relevant in this post!

    They cut Bond walking away from Quarrel's boat along the jetti and into Pussfella's club.

    Strange cause it only saved a few seconds.

    If I remember correctly the ad break came when Quarrel puts his paint tin down and walked off.
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    Moore's films always look like comedies when ITV show them. Must be the TV editing!
  • edited June 2018 Posts: 1,708
    "TMWTGG: When Bond grabs the sumo's bottom"

    ...and yet people hung up about AVTAK Beach Boys when this is worse :P

    (Life of Brian was banned in Norway due to religion , I kid you not. Norways censors were not fans of martial arts or certain horror like Chainsaw , Maniac , cannibal films)
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    edited June 2018 Posts: 8,183
    Reading all of this makes me glad I no longer subscribe to cable. The more distance I've had from it the more I realize it's such an archaic way of watching content now. Maybe well into the future television will no longer be a thing, so nobody will have to endure the butchering of many movies in the manner these Bond films have. I'll always have fond memories of watching certain films for the first time because of television channels (I got my first exposure of the original Star Wars trilogy through a marathon on USA Network), but that will remain something in the past for me. I can never again see myself having to watch a movie edited down so to make room for ads.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    I'm gonna get back to this some time, darn it!
  • Tokoloshe2Tokoloshe2 Northern Ireland
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    Currently watching the well-timed showing of Skyfall on ITV2, and realising how bad the TV edit is!

    They chopped Bond and Talisa being 'in action' in Turkey, a couple of key impacts in the courtrooms scene, a few gunshots from the finale and worst of all, blurred out much of Silva's face when he removes his false teeth. I really thought we were past the stage of such ridiculous edits in a post-watershed showing.

    They also removed the entire Huw Edwards news scene, but I'm not sure if that's because of the execution footage (not that it shows anything) or because it's BBC and this is on ITV. Either way, totally unnecessary.
  • Tokoloshe2Tokoloshe2 Northern Ireland
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    And the ITV2 continuity announcer (who sounds about 14) further adds to the incompetence when the screen says they are showing Spectre at 8pm tomorrow and he advises us not to miss Skyfall tomorrow at 8pm.

    Doh.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    Tokoloshe2 wrote: »
    Currently watching the well-timed showing of Skyfall on ITV2, and realising how bad the TV edit is!

    They chopped Bond and Talisa being 'in action' in Turkey, a couple of key impacts in the courtrooms scene, a few gunshots from the finale and worst of all, blurred out much of Silva's face when he removes his false teeth. I really thought we were past the stage of such ridiculous edits in a post-watershed showing.

    They also removed the entire Huw Edwards news scene, but I'm not sure if that's because of the execution footage (not that it shows anything) or because it's BBC and this is on ITV. Either way, totally unnecessary.

    In the US, editing for content (sex and violence) seems to be a thing of the past on most cable channels. However, editing for time (sometimes they actually speed up the film!) has become rampant.

    Not entirely. I was in the hospital just recently, and caught the tail end of Tomorrow Never Dies (from the Saigon tower to the end), and the network cut out Bond's line to Carver "I would have thought watching your TV shows was torture enough" and the street shower scene.
  • brown7777brown7777 chelmsford
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    I remember seeing the UK version of Diamonds Are Forever on tv once and they edited out the pre title of the mousetrap and scalpels scene glad i have all the bond series on blu ray
  • My first viewing of all the Bond films released up to that point (2002, so DN to TWINE, just before DAD came out) were based on showings on ITV, which my parents recorded for me on video, which I then kept for years until I started collecting the DVDS. Thinking about it, I can't recall any edits for violence, sex or timing but there probably were several over all those films. I also remember the ITV News at 10 would interrupt the film just before the climax, so I would have to fast forward about half an hour before I got back to the film!
  • edited August 2020 Posts: 2,436
    ITV edits circa late 90s that made it onto my taped VHS only to discover these scenes on DVD:

    Dr. No - Bond's exit passing the secretary when seeing Dent
    Thunderball - Bond arriving at the casino on the boat and bumping into the woman at the casino cut, Bond and Domino kissing underwater cut
    OHMSS - Gumbold safe cracking scene cut, scene with Campbell at cable car cut, part of Bond's escape out of the locked room at Piz Gloria cut
    Moonraker - When kidnapped in the ambulance shot of the thing going into the advert cut
    A View to a Kill - Cut the scene where Stacey gets fired, Cut the scene where Bond and Stacey drink wine and Bond tucking her in to bed
    The Living Daylights - 'Bloody' cut from 'you're bloody late' - but was before the watershed', Bond and Kara hitching a ride and dialogue on horse and cart cut, start of Prater Park scene cut (dodgems etc.), Kara calling Bond the backend of a horse cut, most of the end credits cut.
    Licence to Kill - Garroting in PTS cut, 'if they heard they might be able to grab the bastard' cut despite being after the watershed' 'watch the birdie, you bastard' cut despite being after the watershed, most of the end credits cut
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
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    Never happened in my country as far as I know. :-?
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    Bond films are regularly trimmed on ITV in the UK, mostly due to the watershed (so nothing too naughty before 9pm). As most "classic" (i.e. pre-Brosnan) moves are on in the afternoon or early evening, they tend to have the most edits, though they typically are a second or two here and there and not entire scenes.

    TMWTGG was on the tv this Sunday afternoon just gone, most of the edits were bums - so the stripper's bum in the Bottoms Up club and some bits of Chew Mee swimming in Hai Fat's pool were cut. Didn't really notice anything else but then again only watched from that point onwards.

    It always amuses me that they are happy to show people physically hitting each other, quite hard, bleeding and being thrown around, but a shot of a bum is considered too much so is cut. Crazy. Violence = Fine. A bum = no no!
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    I also remember the ITV News at 10 would interrupt the film just before the climax, so I would have to fast forward about half an hour before I got back to the film!
    What, they would break into a film for news so you'd have to sit through it to get to the finale? That's a dirty trick.

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    Pre or post watershed the "there's something i'd like you to get off your chest" scene in DAF is always cut.
  • BT3366 wrote: »
    I also remember the ITV News at 10 would interrupt the film just before the climax, so I would have to fast forward about half an hour before I got back to the film!
    What, they would break into a film for news so you'd have to sit through it to get to the finale? That's a dirty trick.

    That's ITV for you - they always sneak in an ad break on a football match between the players coming out and kick off too.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Just watched FYEO on 9Gem Australia.

    Censored out:

    - The dead bodies of Melina's parents. Hector's plane flies off, Melina turns to look at the devastation, and then there's an abrupt cut to her up-close revenge stare, with Sir Timothy's body out of frame.

    - The dune buggy hitting Lisl and her rolling off the bonnet. As the buggy approaches, we see Lisl turn around, then a close-up of Locque behind the windscreen. Then there's an abrupt cut to her body laying in the sand for half a second, and then cut to Bond.

    - Locque's body laying on the rocks next to the car wreck. The car falls, bouncing off the rocks. Cut to Bond saying, "He had no head for heights". Then cut to the next scene, back in Greece.

    - Bond's rock climbing piton striking Apostis in the chest. Bond throws the piton, then cut to Apostis falling. I don't recall seeing his body hit the ground, or Columbo checking it.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    QBranch wrote: »
    Just watched FYEO on 9Gem Australia.

    Censored out:

    - The dead bodies of Melina's parents. Hector's plane flies off, Melina turns to look at the devastation, and then there's an abrupt cut to her up-close revenge stare, with Sir Timothy's body out of frame.

    - The dune buggy hitting Lisl and her rolling off the bonnet. As the buggy approaches, we see Lisl turn around, then a close-up of Locque behind the windscreen. Then there's an abrupt cut to her body laying in the sand for half a second, and then cut to Bond.

    - Locque's body laying on the rocks next to the car wreck. The car falls, bouncing off the rocks. Cut to Bond saying, "He had no head for heights". Then cut to the next scene, back in Greece.

    - Bond's rock climbing piton striking Apostis in the chest. Bond throws the piton, then cut to Apostis falling. I don't recall seeing his body hit the ground, or Columbo checking it.

    That is absolutely horrible!! Why would they do that?
  • edited June 2021 Posts: 6,844
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    QBranch wrote: »
    Just watched FYEO on 9Gem Australia.

    Censored out:

    - The dead bodies of Melina's parents. Hector's plane flies off, Melina turns to look at the devastation, and then there's an abrupt cut to her up-close revenge stare, with Sir Timothy's body out of frame.

    - The dune buggy hitting Lisl and her rolling off the bonnet. As the buggy approaches, we see Lisl turn around, then a close-up of Locque behind the windscreen. Then there's an abrupt cut to her body laying in the sand for half a second, and then cut to Bond.

    - Locque's body laying on the rocks next to the car wreck. The car falls, bouncing off the rocks. Cut to Bond saying, "He had no head for heights". Then cut to the next scene, back in Greece.

    - Bond's rock climbing piton striking Apostis in the chest. Bond throws the piton, then cut to Apostis falling. I don't recall seeing his body hit the ground, or Columbo checking it.

    That is absolutely horrible!! Why would they do that?

    If you think that's bad, try watching the aerial dogfight in Quantum of Solace on a plane! You cut from "There's a sinkhole" to Bond and Camille chilling at the bottom of it.

    Edit: And I see that's come up before on just the previous page!
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    I don't know if an earlier time frame means that we see a more heavily censored cut. The movie started at 6:45pm here.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    QBranch wrote: »
    I don't know if an earlier time frame means that we see a more heavily censored cut. The movie started at 6:45pm here.

    That could be!
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    QBranch wrote: »
    Just watched FYEO on 9Gem Australia.

    Censored out:

    - The dead bodies of Melina's parents. Hector's plane flies off, Melina turns to look at the devastation, and then there's an abrupt cut to her up-close revenge stare, with Sir Timothy's body out of frame.

    - The dune buggy hitting Lisl and her rolling off the bonnet. As the buggy approaches, we see Lisl turn around, then a close-up of Locque behind the windscreen. Then there's an abrupt cut to her body laying in the sand for half a second, and then cut to Bond.

    - Locque's body laying on the rocks next to the car wreck. The car falls, bouncing off the rocks. Cut to Bond saying, "He had no head for heights". Then cut to the next scene, back in Greece.

    - Bond's rock climbing piton striking Apostis in the chest. Bond throws the piton, then cut to Apostis falling. I don't recall seeing his body hit the ground, or Columbo checking it.

    So it's not just ITV in the UK that does this then?!! [-X :))
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