"I don t drink...wine."- The Dracula Thread

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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I can't believe I forgot to mention it here, but the 26th was Dracula Day, the 125th anniversary of his publication. They made a gathering in Whitby: https://amp.theguardian.com/books/2022/may/26/whitby-abbey-breaks-record-of-most-people-dressed-as-vampires

    Wow! That's great! Surprised I missed Dracula Day.

    I try to celebrate it every year, if only by tweeting about it, or mentioning it on Facebook. I have a long love story with the novel.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I can't believe I forgot to mention it here, but the 26th was Dracula Day, the 125th anniversary of his publication. They made a gathering in Whitby: https://amp.theguardian.com/books/2022/may/26/whitby-abbey-breaks-record-of-most-people-dressed-as-vampires

    Wow! That's great! Surprised I missed Dracula Day.

    I try to celebrate it every year, if only by tweeting about it, or mentioning it on Facebook. I have a long love story with the novel.

    You could say that it was love at first bite.
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I can't believe I forgot to mention it here, but the 26th was Dracula Day, the 125th anniversary of his publication. They made a gathering in Whitby: https://amp.theguardian.com/books/2022/may/26/whitby-abbey-breaks-record-of-most-people-dressed-as-vampires

    Wow! That's great! Surprised I missed Dracula Day.

    I try to celebrate it every year, if only by tweeting about it, or mentioning it on Facebook. I have a long love story with the novel.

    I've always loved the novel. I still think the film with Louis Jourdan captures some of the novel's essence fairly closely. I actually like the Franco version for the simple reason Christopher Lee was made up to resemble the character's description in the book.
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I can't believe I forgot to mention it here, but the 26th was Dracula Day, the 125th anniversary of his publication. They made a gathering in Whitby: https://amp.theguardian.com/books/2022/may/26/whitby-abbey-breaks-record-of-most-people-dressed-as-vampires

    Wow! That's great! Surprised I missed Dracula Day.

    I try to celebrate it every year, if only by tweeting about it, or mentioning it on Facebook. I have a long love story with the novel.

    You could say that it was love at first bite.

    You could say that. It really opened my literary mind. That and A Clockwork Orange. But right after Dracula I read Carmilla, years later I read The Picture of Dorian Gray because it had been mentioned in the introduction of the edition I had borrowed from the library, etc. I had read other classic gothic horror stories before, but it is Dracula that got me hooked.
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I can't believe I forgot to mention it here, but the 26th was Dracula Day, the 125th anniversary of his publication. They made a gathering in Whitby: https://amp.theguardian.com/books/2022/may/26/whitby-abbey-breaks-record-of-most-people-dressed-as-vampires

    Wow! That's great! Surprised I missed Dracula Day.

    I try to celebrate it every year, if only by tweeting about it, or mentioning it on Facebook. I have a long love story with the novel.

    I've always loved the novel. I still think the film with Louis Jourdan captures some of the novel's essence fairly closely. I actually like the Franco version for the simple reason Christopher Lee was made up to resemble the character's description in the book.

    The Louis Jourdan version is very flawed, but they got so many things right. The naturalistic way they depict the supernatural is spot on. And it has the best Mina imo. Jesus Franco's version I hate almost everything about it, except a few scenes and Lee's appearance. Had they cast Christopher Lee instead of Jourdan in the BBC version... oh what could have been.
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    Couldn't agree more, @Ludovico. Lee probably would've loved to have done the BBC version. A missed opportunity.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    I still need to watch that Louis Jourdan BBC version of Dracula. He's one of my favourite actors.
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Couldn't agree more, @Ludovico. Lee probably would've loved to have done the BBC version. A missed opportunity.

    And turned it into the definitive version.
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    I still need to watch that Louis Jourdan BBC version of Dracula. He's one of my favourite actors.

    Jourdan is far from the best Dracula though: too suave, not feral enough, too French as well. The merit of this version goes in its naturalism. Real sets, real places, the supernatural played down instead of being overblown, there's a pseudo documentary feel to it. The fx are a bit shoddy at times, but that's a strength more than a weakness: you don't get distracted by them, you're not taken away from the settings and characters. Unlike say the latest BBC version.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    https://www.cineserie.com/movies/4838323/video/4838367/
    Yet another one. Do we really need this?
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    https://www.cineserie.com/movies/4838323/video/4838367/
    Yet another one. Do we really need this?

    Looks like any handful of direct to video Dracula films that have come out in the last 30 years. That said, I'd probably still watch it.
    talos7 wrote: »

    Interesting!
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    https://www.cineserie.com/movies/4838323/video/4838367/
    Yet another one. Do we really need this?

    We don't. I can see two potential, hypothetical Dracula projects working:

    1)a proper, faithful adaptation of the novel (my dream).
    2)A Universal Dracula from their Dark universe, inspired heavily by the Lugosi version. Not my favourite idea, but I could see it working .
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    talos7 wrote: »

    You know what, there's a lot of potential there. So much so, it's one of those ideas that once you hear it, you're amazed that no one thought of it earlier!
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    Venutius wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »

    You know what, there's a lot of potential there. So much so, it's one of those ideas that once you hear it, you're amazed that no one thought of it earlier!

    It does sound good, but I'd still rather have a faithful adaptation of the novel.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited May 2022 Posts: 18,281
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Venutius wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »

    You know what, there's a lot of potential there. So much so, it's one of those ideas that once you hear it, you're amazed that no one thought of it earlier!

    It does sound good, but I'd still rather have a faithful adaptation of the novel.

    I can't believe though (looking at Bond) I'm not surprised they haven't done that before. It's probably the same with Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. I'm no expert on the horror genre, but has that novel ever been filmed faithfully either?
  • The Last Voyage of the Demeter sounds like a story that could be done well. Of course it faces the challenge that its entire cast will end up dead and that everyone going into the movie knows that's what will happen. Sort of like the prequel to The Thing. But it's all in the telling I suppose.
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    The Last Voyage of the Demeter sounds like a story that could be done well. Of course it faces the challenge that its entire cast will end up dead and that everyone going into the movie knows that's what will happen. Sort of like the prequel to The Thing. But it's all in the telling I suppose.

    Not sure that many people will even make the connection with Dracula, according to the title alone. And let's not forget they might completely change the narrative and the story. I'm not so sure about the casting overall. Bardem as Dracula? Not only Drac should not have a cheesy accent, but he'd now have a very wrong accent.

    What's happening at Universal, with their dark movieverse franchise, or whatever it is named? It's seems to me they keep taking the wrong decision: first they start their new franchise with their most obscure character, then they do a Renfield movie? I mean with the Monster of Frankenstein and Dracula, they have two of the most iconic looking horror characters in movie history. Why don't they make movies on these ones?
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    The Last Voyage of the Demeter sounds like a story that could be done well. Of course it faces the challenge that its entire cast will end up dead and that everyone going into the movie knows that's what will happen. Sort of like the prequel to The Thing. But it's all in the telling I suppose.

    Not sure that many people will even make the connection with Dracula, according to the title alone. And let's not forget they might completely change the narrative and the story. I'm not so sure about the casting overall. Bardem as Dracula? Not only Drac should not have a cheesy accent, but he'd now have a very wrong accent.

    What's happening at Universal, with their dark movieverse franchise, or whatever it is named? It's seems to me they keep taking the wrong decision: first they start their new franchise with their most obscure character, then they do a Renfield movie? I mean with the Monster of Frankenstein and Dracula, they have two of the most iconic looking horror characters in movie history. Why don't they make movies on these ones?
    I believe Dracula Untold was supposed to be part of that universe.
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    The Last Voyage of the Demeter sounds like a story that could be done well. Of course it faces the challenge that its entire cast will end up dead and that everyone going into the movie knows that's what will happen. Sort of like the prequel to The Thing. But it's all in the telling I suppose.

    Not sure that many people will even make the connection with Dracula, according to the title alone. And let's not forget they might completely change the narrative and the story. I'm not so sure about the casting overall. Bardem as Dracula? Not only Drac should not have a cheesy accent, but he'd now have a very wrong accent.

    What's happening at Universal, with their dark movieverse franchise, or whatever it is named? It's seems to me they keep taking the wrong decision: first they start their new franchise with their most obscure character, then they do a Renfield movie? I mean with the Monster of Frankenstein and Dracula, they have two of the most iconic looking horror characters in movie history. Why don't they make movies on these ones?
    I believe Dracula Untold was supposed to be part of that universe.

    They don't seem to know what they're doing.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    They really don't.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    It was a rather poor film, too.
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    Venutius wrote: »
    They really don't.

    The worst thing is, I could see it working. Maybe not as a "pure" horror series as I think it would be difficult to keep the fear factor high with recurring villains and monsters, but as a fairly successful film franchise with horror elements, overall darker than Marvel or DC.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited June 2022 Posts: 3,152
    Yes, I see what you mean. Instead, it's been a misfire from the off, really. Squandered.
  • Was the newest Invisible Man intended to be a reboot of the Dark Universe or is that completely unrelated? I never saw that one, but I heard it's supposed to be good. I see the potential in a Marvel-style cinematic universe based on Universal's classic monsters. They basically already had that going throughout the 30s, 40s, and early 50s, though they certainly didn't pay great attention to continuity at the time. As with how Universal's classic monster films would develop, I think it would work if they leaned into the comedy and adventure as much as the horror and varied the tone from one film to the next. They just need someone like Kevin Feige who has a clear vision and the ability to bring the right players together to deliver quality films.
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    Was the newest Invisible Man intended to be a reboot of the Dark Universe or is that completely unrelated? I never saw that one, but I heard it's supposed to be good. I see the potential in a Marvel-style cinematic universe based on Universal's classic monsters. They basically already had that going throughout the 30s, 40s, and early 50s, though they certainly didn't pay great attention to continuity at the time. As with how Universal's classic monster films would develop, I think it would work if they leaned into the comedy and adventure as much as the horror and varied the tone from one film to the next. They just need someone like Kevin Feige who has a clear vision and the ability to bring the right players together to deliver quality films.

    From my understanding, and please bear in mind I haven't been following it much AND haven't seen the film, but Invisible Man was initially meant to be part of the Dark Universe, but when the other movies flopped they released it as an independent movie. But since it became a success they sort of decided it's now part of the Dark Universe? Or something like that.

    I can see it working too, and I might even enjoy some of them. They have lots of source material from the 30s and 40s as you said, they can build on it. But they should bet on their biggest names: Frankenstein and of course Dracula. Bela Lugosi is not my favourite Dracula, neither is Dracula 31 my favourite Drac movie, but they are both iconic and the aesthetic still holds on. I'm not expecting Universal to make a faithful adaptation of the novel, that would be for another studio (a British one?), but can't they just use what they have and build on their past success and nostalgia?
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    In 1953, Ed Wood wanted to remake the 1931 classic Dracula in colour and 3D, again starring Bela Lugosi. I am a little sad this never happened.
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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    From a Dracula porn.
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    From a Dracula porn.

    He looks like a 1970's country singer in a Dracula costume. Eddie Rabbitt or somebody.
    Caught this one recently and actualy came away surprised it attempts a remake of the 1931 classic.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    ToTheRight wrote: »

    From a Dracula porn.

    He looks like a 1970's country singer in a Dracula costume. Eddie Rabbitt or somebody.
    Caught this one recently and actualy came away surprised it attempts a remake of the 1931 classic.

    But does it suck?
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    ToTheRight wrote: »

    From a Dracula porn.

    He looks like a 1970's country singer in a Dracula costume. Eddie Rabbitt or somebody.
    Caught this one recently and actualy came away surprised it attempts a remake of the 1931 classic.

    But does it suck?

    Literally. Must admit I kind of liked it, though.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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