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It was there to open a Bond film with a bang. To get the audience immediately in the Bond mood. To carry it on from the first film as a tradition was a genius idea from the makers. I'm pretty sure Cubby would not have approved of its omission.
The Spectre one was so naff it was as if the producers were saying "Here you go complainers, we don't particularly want it but here's your precious gunbarrel..."
I will be very suprised if NTTD has one.
If they're going to go with a suit, it shouldn't be navy, IMO. I've always thought a monochromatic suit looks better with a GB sequence.
Agreed. Craig hasn't had a good GB sequence with the exception of Casino Royale which I enjoyed in the context of the film. Spectre was definitely the weakest of the bunch.
Its like Mendes said we better placate the fans as they weren't happy with our excuses last time round.
The GB itself isn't great but to add insult to injury rather than open up on the glorious shot of the skeleton puppet which has been seen with fan mock ups on Youtube, instead we cut to black and get some pretentious quote.
The opportunity was there but it was a warning sign of all the slapdash things in that film, I know some think us haters go for the brothergate thing but if it was just that I might be able to over look it but that film is problematic from the get go.
Also I'm not one of the sceptic ones that love the previous era and think the DC era has not matched the previous ones, quite contrary I was one of the biggest fans of this era till that film.
Sorry I just went into @Getafix mode instead it was SPECTRE rather than Skyfall, I need to stop it.
The CR one is the best as it is cleverly incorporated into the main titles, it made perfect narrative sense to do it there. QOS I get less and less convinced every time I see it that it couldn't have been there and as much as I love SF Mendes could have made it work.
Anyway I digress, I think CF will give us our gun barrel, he seems to be wanting to evoke a classic Bond adventure with a contemporary spin. CF comes across as a more excited Bond fan to me. A younger more exciting film maker on the rise, Mendes looks like he might well plateau with 1917 if it rides to Oscar glory.
Cary looks like he has had a blast here and might well be asked back to helm the reboot, no sense denying it, the next era will not follow on from this one.
Hopefully also it will be Zimmer and possibly Marr with a new arrangement of the theme, rather than recycling previous ones.
Personally yes it does give you a rush seeing the GB I've been witnessing it in the cinema since 1977 (before anyone says I'm not a true Bond fan for sharing this opinion) but I don't want Bond to go back to being just another entry personally and I like that what they have done barring the obvious.
If you just want them just recycling the A - B travelogues with no depth and substance then so be it. I understand that this might be insulting but at times some of the previous eras films which I'm sorry I can't let go with a case of the glow of nostalgia, have not dated well, they are of their time and no I wouldn't want Bond to go back to this.
So if the GB were the price we had to pay for getting what I regard as 3 quality entries and the good possibility of an absolute cracker to close it out, so be it.
I'm not that precious that I'm going to think the DC era isn't a Bond film just because of that moment at the beginning.
I also don't think that Barbara is that interested recycling the films of her fathers era, she wants to put her own stamp on thing and lets not forget all of Cubby's decisions weren't wise and not without mistake.
I'm not going to say that BB & MGW have had a spotless record since taking over the previous era and moments of this one have had questionable moments no point denying that but nostalgia has a habit of giving some amnesia over decisions taken previously to their taking control.
Although this might sound like a broken record as I reiterate it quite regularly if this series was to be sold on, the gun barrel put somewhere different or not being used would be the least of our worries.
No this family does not get everything right (they never did) but if you want this character you truly love to continue, they are the best place for it to stay.
Also I believe the series will evolve again with the next chapter in its history and yes the GB will be back front and centre to kick it off.
Agreed here. Loved the Spectre gunbarrel and hope it continues into NTTD.
Perfect,@antovolk.
Risky risky... In that case I hope it's similar to the Spectre gunbarrel!
I don't really get that at all: Mendes was clearly a fan and even brought back some of the Roger Moore-style humour from the films he loved and managed to combine it with the flavour of the Craig films- not an easy thing to do.
And he made two Bond films! Let's see if Fukunaga is enough of a fan to make more than one :)
He was very passionate about SF but he clearly his heart wasn't in SP, he wanted to walk away from it.
He should have stuck to one film and let someone else direct SP.
I'm sorry I hate SPECTRE and as much as I love SF, Mendes for me had lost his passion for the project come his second film.
CF seems to me more dynamic, the action in both trailers blows anything in SP away already.
Also he mentions using the action sequence to tell the story not just having them for the sake of it because that is what you expect in a Bond film.
I seriously can't wait.
I believe this one will be the most traditional one, fading directly in the PTS.
Agree with you about CR, QOS and Skyfall's gunbarrels. I also like how CR gives context to the gunbarrel that it's Bond's first kill on his way to becoming a 00.
It would be nice to see Craig in tux, not waving the walther around. But I also want a distinctive version of the Bond theme over the whole thing. I like being able to identify each one individually through music alone.
+1.
Messing with the gunbarrel in recent Bond's is unforgivable, I agree.
It was there to open a Bond film with a bang. To get the audience immediately in the Bond mood. To carry it on from the first film as a tradition was a genius idea from the makers. I'm pretty sure Cubby would not have approved of its omission. I also agree.
However, the SPECTRE gunbarrel sequence was excellent, bar the writing.
I will be very pissed if NTTD doesn’t have one at the very start!
The problem with the GB in Spectre is that it's evident he's holding the Walther PPK when walking into frame. The whole point of the GB is that it's a surprise and the person on the other end doesn't realize he's about to shoot. In relation to a suit verses tux, I'm open to both. I particularly like the look of the tuxedo Craig seems to don in NTTD, but if he's to wear a suit it should be a black and white combination, IMO.
I agree, but that was my only major complaint with the Spectre GB. I do think it's an improvement overall, atleast when compared to Craig's previous GB's.
The barrel itself is a slick design, the music is suitably epic, the opening shot of the Day Of The Dead parade is perfect (minus the dead are alive caption) and Craig's walking speed is spot on, plus his suit looks great.
So the positives outweigh the negatives for me.
I especially like that Craig has shot new gun barrel footage for each film, rather than just have the filmmakers settle with the footage shot during QOS. Just because we saw the same Roger Moore gun barrel footage from TSWLM being used all the way up to AVTAK doesn't make it a tradition worth maintaining. I look forward to the next actor shooting a new gun barrel for each film as well.
I always felt the Roger Moore GB from LALD and TMWTGG should've been used the whole way through his tenure. I thought it was more energetic then the ones that followed.
I agree....I prefer his pose in LALD & TMWTGG....the way his suit was one-sided immediately after he fired his gun, looked very stylish....coupled with him holding his wrist...instead of both hands like the ones that later followed....plus he wore a business suit & the trousers were normal.
He actually holds his wrist in TSWLM gb as well when you examine it closely. In fact that’s pretty much Moore’s standard pose when you look at all the publicity photos.
I think the On Her Majesty's Secret Service GB is the best in the franchise. I think Lazenby's walk has swagger and his finish was the most dramatic, IMO. I remember hearing somewhere that the producers wanted him to replicate what Connery had done previously, but he said he was going to do it his way and that was the result.
I preferred the later one I think (don’t his feet sort of end up together in his first one?), but I don’t think they could’ve used the LALD one because of the change of aspect ratio.