Christopher Nolan - Appreciation Thread

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  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    That's a pretty poor poster.

    "I want a poster where someone has to tilt their head in order to read the credits."
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
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    Not a bad poster, but I think the teaser poster was better.....as it looked inventive. This should have been the teaser poster.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
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    Yeah, Better....More like it.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
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    Much better.
  • edited July 2020 Posts: 6,709
    Awful posters. I now appreciate the NTTD poster campaign (even if the best poster so far was made by a fan from these forums). If a new Bond film got such bland posters, I'd be worried. The graphic industry has to step it up a notch. This is just subpar. But to be fair, Nolan's film posters are never as good as his films. And we've had pretty bad posters for good Bond films as well (looking at you, SF).
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
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    A little off-topic:

    I think that Mr. Nolan would approve 😊
    https://wbbm780.radio.com/articles/music-box-theatre-to-reopen-friday-with-new-guidelines

    Interestingly, when theaters do re-open, they will probably screen a number of ‘classic’ movies at first. And that strategy appears to already be in effect for the various ‘drive-in’ and even out-door stadium movie screenings that seem to be popping up. Movies like “Jaws”,”Apollo 13”, “Back to the Future” and “Black Panther” are being shown, and I even see that Casino Royale is to be shown in NYC (Bronx) on August 2nd.

    https://www.indiewire.com/2020/06/tribeca-drive-in-schedule-summer-2020-1234568628/

    Another chance to see ‘2OO1’ in 70mm? I’m all in! Oops…I’ll need to travel to Chicago….darn!!!
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Univex wrote: »
    Awful posters. I now appreciate the NTTD poster campaign (even if the best poster so far was made by a fan from these forums). If a new Bond film got such bland posters, I'd be worried. The graphic industry has to step it up a notch. This is just subpar. But to be fair, Nolan's film posters are never as good as his films. And we've had pretty bad posters for good Bond films as well (looking at you, SF).

    The NTTD poster I have up in my place is one such fan poster. :D

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  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Reporting of numbers focuses on new positives.

    Context for numbers tested, demographics, high risk, asymptomatic, mild symptoms, hospitalized, those on ventilators, and related deaths are not normally forthcoming.
    The ratio between positive tests detected versus total tests performed is actually rising in several US states.
    As here.

  • edited July 2020 Posts: 6,709
    Univex wrote: »
    Awful posters. I now appreciate the NTTD poster campaign (even if the best poster so far was made by a fan from these forums). If a new Bond film got such bland posters, I'd be worried. The graphic industry has to step it up a notch. This is just subpar. But to be fair, Nolan's film posters are never as good as his films. And we've had pretty bad posters for good Bond films as well (looking at you, SF).

    The NTTD poster I have up in my place is one such fan poster. :D

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    That's the one I was talking about. By @mtm, right? @Denbigh also did quite a few.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Univex wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Awful posters. I now appreciate the NTTD poster campaign (even if the best poster so far was made by a fan from these forums). If a new Bond film got such bland posters, I'd be worried. The graphic industry has to step it up a notch. This is just subpar. But to be fair, Nolan's film posters are never as good as his films. And we've had pretty bad posters for good Bond films as well (looking at you, SF).

    The NTTD poster I have up in my place is one such fan poster. :D

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    That's the one I was talking about. By @mtm, right? @Denbigh also did quite a few.

    Yep!
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    Reporting of numbers focuses on new positives.

    Context for numbers tested, demographics, high risk, asymptomatic, mild symptoms, hospitalized, those on ventilators, and related deaths are not normally forthcoming.

    The ratio between positive tests detected versus total tests performed is actually rising in several US states. This is one of the reasons why the situation in the US is on the verge of becoming a total disaster.
    Well, it has been a total desaster all the time.
    So the ratio between positive tests detected vs total tests performed is rising in several states. Does the number of sick people also rise? And if so, are the relations known publicly? What I mean is, if there are 10 new severely ill patients, it would be a rise by 100% if the number was 10 before, but a rise of 1% if the number was 1.000 before.

    Are all tests PCR?

  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    boldfinger wrote: »
    Reporting of numbers focuses on new positives.

    Context for numbers tested, demographics, high risk, asymptomatic, mild symptoms, hospitalized, those on ventilators, and related deaths are not normally forthcoming.

    The ratio between positive tests detected versus total tests performed is actually rising in several US states. This is one of the reasons why the situation in the US is on the verge of becoming a total disaster.
    Well, it has been a total desaster all the time.
    So the ratio between positive tests detected vs total tests performed is rising in several states. Does the number of sick people also rise? And if so, are the relations known publicly? What I mean is, if there are 10 new severely ill patients, it would be a rise by 100% if the number was 10 before, but a rise of 1% if the number was 1.000 before.

    Are all tests PCR?

    Just using the state of Arizona as an example: on Memorial Day (May 25th), 9% of the daily tests performed came back positive. Yesterday (July 1st), 28.3% of the daily tests performed came back positive.
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    WIth over 50 THOUSAND new cases in the US yesterday, there is no way Tenet will be released one and a half months from now. Another delay is now inevitable.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    It is telling that two major September releases, The Conjuring 3 and Halloween Kills, have not started their marketing campaign yet. No trailers, no posters, no official stills. So another round of delays is imminent.

    Monster Hunter and The Honest Thief, both coming out on September 4th (2 months from now), have zero marketing campaign yet either (apart from 2 teaser posters released in February for ''Monster Hunter'', and 1 official still for 'The Honest Thief').
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    I wonder if Halloween Kills will go out online? Even if they doubled the budget of the previous film ($10-15million), it would still be pretty small as per Blumhouse's usual standard and I think it would handily make $50million on VOD - especially if they released it on Halloween weekend rather than the 15th October as planned.

    Granted, that's not as much of a dollar smash as the previous film, but it's still a profit and I think they'll want that film out for that holiday for obvious reasons.
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    Don't know why they don't release this summer, its probably the best option considering Tenet will be the only game in town. They can fill out every screen and make sure people are seated correctly apart.

    50 blockbuster movies all opening in summer 2021 won't be good for anyone.

    This was Nolan's plan with the July re-opening. Had america been in the same place as Europe he would have had his way. Sadly, the US situation has forced his hand and September/October is now likely. In which case, Nolan now runs into a whole bunch of other films that had already moved due to the pandemic........
    Reporting of numbers focuses on new positives.

    Context for numbers tested, demographics, high risk, asymptomatic, mild symptoms, hospitalized, those on ventilators, and related deaths are not normally forthcoming.

    The ratio between positive tests detected versus total tests performed is actually rising in several US states. This is one of the reasons why the situation in the US is on the verge of becoming a total disaster.[/quote]

    The US poster is pretty weak - also, totally confusing. It's not really selling the whole 'inverted' angle. It just looks like two pictures of John David Washinton. If I was unfamiliar with this film, I'd just think it was the two male leads of the film posing in a poster.

    Meanwhile, the international one is simple and cool. It's not exactly groundbreaking. But it's a cool way of selling the story and creating a elegant iconic image. But considering Warner are soooooooooo good at marketing and posters in particular. The Tenet art has been uniformly weak. What's also up with Nolan's obbession with this blue tinge to his posters?



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    Fairly certain that Tenet will now take WW84's date and WW84 will move to Thanksgiving as the botched social media attempt already revealed.



    Which probably means that Bond moves out of November entirely. Perhaps to February 2021 to capitalise on the Black Panther date. Currently, Marvel's Eternals is scheduled for that date. But that film hasn't started its marketing and an afford moving to later in 2021. Especially as no other Marvel films beyond Black Widow are even close to being ready for release in 2021.

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    The_Return wrote: »
    WIth over 50 THOUSAND new cases in the US yesterday, there is no way Tenet will be released one and a half months from now. Another delay is now inevitable.

    ....Also, is this the much fabled return of Panchito?

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  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    @Pierce2Daniel I think Black Widow will take The Eternal's February 12th release date. Unless NTTD moves first and grabs it.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Movie theater chains are unlikely to reopen anytime soon.

    “We need to get more creative because you’re not going to open up theaters for any level of regular operations anytime soon,” box office analyst and founder of TheNumbers Bruce Nash says.

    "We’re always talking about getting through this and figuring out what the new normal is, but I’m now thinking this is the new normal,” Bruce Nash, box office analyst and founder of TheNumbers, said. “The virus doesn’t really go away, and we’re in this wave of coronavirus cases subsiding and spiking and maybe there’s a vaccine early next year, but this is how it’s going to be for as long as we can see right now.”

    California Gov. Gavin Newsom on Wednesday ordered Los Angeles County and 18 other counties in the state to close movie theaters and dine-in restaurant service for at least the next three weeks as infections continue to surge.

    To boot, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo last week said that movie theaters will not reopen on schedule.

    “There are really only two potential saviors for the movie theater business: Government action and the other is the studios,” Nash said, referencing studios helping to pay exhibitors’ digital print fees during the switch from film. “What that looks like for putting ‘Tenet’ out in a movie theater, I don’t know. But everybody in the industry wants that to happen… It’s maybe more about what we do with the situation that we’re in.”


    https://www.thewrap.com/why-movie-theater-chains-are-unlikely-to-reopen-anytime-soon/
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    Which probably means that Bond moves out of November entirely. Perhaps to February 2021 to capitalise on the Black Panther date.
    There I still disagree with you. If cinemas are reopened by November and new big budget movies are already released, then NTTD will not and should not move. Tenet can have February 2021. If the pandemic allows it, November 2020 100% belongs to NTTD.
  • edited July 2020 Posts: 4,408
    The_Return wrote: »
    Which probably means that Bond moves out of November entirely. Perhaps to February 2021 to capitalise on the Black Panther date.
    There I still disagree with you. If cinemas are reopened by November and new big budget movies are already released, then NTTD will not and should not move. Tenet can have February 2021. If the pandemic allows it, November 2020 100% belongs to NTTD.

    It is Panchito! Nice to have you back bro. Things have been far to civilised for too long. I wonder how long this rogue account lasts for.

    But to take your point...I totally agree. Bond belongs in November. It has owned that date for 25 years and has posted consistent numbers.

    However, the elephant in the room is the pandemic. I've been weighing up the pros/cons of the situation.

    Pros:
    • They have sunk a lot of marketing in the film and a trailer is already out as is the title song.
    • you can't put the genie back in the bottle in respect to either.
    • Therefore, they have lost the interest and awareness built up and have to start from scratch despite playing some very strong hands early.
    • Moving to your 5th release date is a pretty ugly situation for any film. The optics can look bad.
    • We are already 5 years out from SP and any further delays may sink interest in this story and iteration of Bond. Therefore, November is a necessity.

    Cons:
    • The reopening date is looking more like September/October. This could make NTTD one of the first films post-reopening.
    • No one wants to go first as viewing appetites haven't been gaged. Will people even go to the cinemas? Who knows currently.
    • If cinemas re-open there will be too many films crammed into the Thanksgiving and Xmas season. The competition will be be immense.
    • There is a chance of a vaccine in the latter part of 2020 and into early 2021. Waiting may be safer as you can wait for theatre capacity to increase and public confidence in line.
    • Bigger box office in 2021 and an big international press tour in 2021. The chances of the same in 2020 are slim.
    • There are ways to re-publicise the title song. For example, music video or have Billie/Finneas go on the press tour (much like Sam Smith)

    for these reasons, I think NTTD should go to 2021 and Tenet can have October. Let Nolan go first.....

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  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    That is one cool guitar pick.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Looks like Tenet will be the only major release in August (unless it gets delayed): Disney are set to delay Mulan and The New Mutants to September.
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  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    @antovolk @Pierce2Daniel

    Tenet was first delayed on June 12th, and again on June 25th. A similar time-frame would make the next delay to be confirmed this week (Thursday/Friday). Yesterday, California recorded over 10,000 new cases for the first time, so the situation is clearly not improving for theaters to reopen. What could be Tenet's new released date? Another 2 weeks delay to August 28th?

    The second delay occurred on the first day the USA recorded over 40,000 new cases. Since then, the US has recorded over 50,000 new cases on 5 different days. June 24th remains the most recent day the US were below 40,000 new infections.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    The next round of delays has started:

    Halloween Kills delayed to October 2021.
    The Forever Purge delayed to July 2021.
    Candyman delayed to October 2020.

    https://www.thewrap.com/universal-shifts-blumhouses-halloween-sequel-and-the-forever-purge-to-2021/
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    The next round of delays has started:

    Halloween Kills delayed to October 2021.
    The Forever Purge delayed to July 2021.
    Candyman delayed to October 2020.

    https://www.thewrap.com/universal-shifts-blumhouses-halloween-sequel-and-the-forever-purge-to-2021/

    darn I was hoping to see the real final Halloween film ;)
  • Interestingly, when theaters do re-open, they will probably screen a number of ‘classic’ movies at first. And that strategy appears to already be in effect for the various ‘drive-in’ and even out-door stadium movie screenings that seem to be popping up. Movies like “Jaws”,”Apollo 13”, “Back to the Future” and “Black Panther” are being shown, and I even see that Casino Royale is to be shown in NYC (Bronx) on August 2nd.

    Cinemas in the UK are doing that. Here's a local cinema to me that's doing that now (certain films being shown on certain days).

    "This ODEON is open again! We have put in place lots of new safety measures for your wellbeing and enjoyment. Please note we are not currently accepting cash, but we have increased our contactless limit to help you buy safer. We look forward to welcoming you back to the big screen, epic sound and a safer visit."

    I'm currently planning on seeing La La Land with my mum on Thursday 16th July (haven't seen it before). It will be my first cinema trip this year - I'm looking forward to it 😁!
  • https://mobi.odeon.co.uk/cinemas/port_solent/15/

    Here's the link for today's films (different films will be shown on different days).
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