Christopher Nolan - Appreciation Thread

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  • I rewatched the Dark Knight Rises last night. It was better than I remember. However, it got me thinking about the timeline.

    How long does the Christian Bale Batman actually operate as Batman before he goes into hiding at the end of the dark knight? A couple of years? Longer?
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    I rewatched the Dark Knight Rises last night. It was better than I remember. However, it got me thinking about the timeline.

    How long does the Christian Bale Batman actually operate as Batman before he goes into hiding at the end of the dark knight? A couple of years? Longer?

    Weirdly I was talking about this with someone the other day. Joker apparently says during the scene with the gangsters that one year ago the cops and lawyers wouldn’t cross them. So maybe it’s even about a year and a bit? I dunno.
  • Yes, I thought of that line as well. However, you could take that as Batman having to work for a bit before that year period to make an impact. There's also the reference to locking up all the money launderers and Dent's overall impact. That would realistically take more than a year.

    I know its just a movie but it's not that clear.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    Just as Hans Zimmer eventually scored a Bond film, Nolan would still end up directing a Bond....even if it isn't Bond 26, Nolan is likely direct Bond 7 in one of his films or more.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Just as Hans Zimmer eventually scored a Bond film, Nolan would still end up directing a Bond....even if it isn't Bond 26, Nolan is likely direct Bond 7 in one of his films or more.

    @SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷
    Why? I don't get it. Why is he likely to ever direct a Bond film? Because he's popular? Because he's won an Oscar? Because he's British? Because of all of these things combined?

    Then what about other popular British Oscar-winning directors who never directed a Bond film?

    I don't understand this strange epidemic of wishful-thinking turned into future-telling.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Just as Hans Zimmer eventually scored a Bond film, Nolan would still end up directing a Bond....even if it isn't Bond 26, Nolan is likely direct Bond 7 in one of his films or more.

    @SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷
    Why? I don't get it. Why is he likely to ever direct a Bond film? Because he's popular? Because he's won an Oscar? Because he's British? Because of all of these things combined?

    Then what about other popular British Oscar-winning directors who never directed a Bond film?

    I don't understand this strange epidemic of wishful-thinking turned into future-telling.

    Hahaha! I understand @DarthDimi I think he's just a very big fish like Zimmer. So I feel at some point it would happen. Yeah, him being British and an Oscar winner helps....plus, he's a huge Bond fan. So at some point, a Bond direction EON wants would need him.
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Then what about other popular British Oscar-winning directors who never directed a Bond film?

    How many of them have ever directed any big, globetrotting action-adventure film?
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Then what about other popular British Oscar-winning directors who never directed a Bond film?

    How many of them have ever directed any big, globetrotting action-adventure film?

    How many Bond directors have, before doing Bond? Certainly not Campbell, Mendes, Fukunaga, Apted, Forster, ... Coming off big productions doesn't seem all that important to EON.
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Then what about other popular British Oscar-winning directors who never directed a Bond film?

    How many of them have ever directed any big, globetrotting action-adventure film?

    How many Bond directors have, before doing Bond? Certainly not Campbell, Mendes, Fukunaga, Apted, Forster, ... Coming off big productions doesn't seem all that important to EON.

    Even in the classic era Hamilton, Gilbert and Young were more known for drama films and certainly hadn’t done anything all that epic (which is quite ironic considering how some complain about Bond directors nowadays being ‘arthouse’ filmmakers). Hunt and Glen were even first time directors.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Then what about other popular British Oscar-winning directors who never directed a Bond film?

    How many of them have ever directed any big, globetrotting action-adventure film?

    How many Bond directors have, before doing Bond? Certainly not Campbell, Mendes, Fukunaga, Apted, Forster, ... Coming off big productions doesn't seem all that important to EON.

    Especially since they’ve always relied on second units to handle a lot of the action stuff since, um… 1962. Eon usually does go for directors who’ve worked outside of the action genre.

    I think one exception you could make is John Glen, because he started off as a editor/second unit director that got promoted to director. That’s why his films feel the most plain out of Cubby’s run. They’re very meat and potatoes without much style to them, because Glen had always been more of a technical director than an actor’s director, which is partly why I think Dalton struggled working with him.

    Then again there’s Peter Hunt, who went through the same exact process, but I think he had a more notable creative footprint there than Glen.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    007HallY wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Then what about other popular British Oscar-winning directors who never directed a Bond film?

    How many of them have ever directed any big, globetrotting action-adventure film?

    How many Bond directors have, before doing Bond? Certainly not Campbell, Mendes, Fukunaga, Apted, Forster, ... Coming off big productions doesn't seem all that important to EON.

    Even in the classic era Hamilton, Gilbert and Young were more known for drama films and certainly hadn’t done anything all that epic (which is quite ironic considering how some complain about Bond directors nowadays being ‘arthouse’ filmmakers). Hunt and Glen were even first time directors.

    Yes, thank you, @007HallY. Kershner is one of the very few "Bond directors" who ever got involved in something big before their Bond gig. Even Tamahori hadn't done a lot of big stuff prior to DAD.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    NSNA is such an odd duck because it has a very impressive filmmaking pedigree across the board that would make you think they’ll show Eon how it’s done… but then we get what we got in NSNA.
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Then what about other popular British Oscar-winning directors who never directed a Bond film?

    How many of them have ever directed any big, globetrotting action-adventure film?

    How many Bond directors have, before doing Bond? Certainly not Campbell, Mendes, Fukunaga, Apted, Forster, ... Coming off big productions doesn't seem all that important to EON.

    Even in the classic era Hamilton, Gilbert and Young were more known for drama films and certainly hadn’t done anything all that epic (which is quite ironic considering how some complain about Bond directors nowadays being ‘arthouse’ filmmakers). Hunt and Glen were even first time directors.

    Yes, thank you, @007HallY. Kershner is one of the very few "Bond directors" who ever got involved in something big before their Bond gig. Even Tamahori hadn't done a lot of big stuff prior to DAD.

    Didn't think about that but that's very true! It's rather odd considering just how underwhelming NSNA is in terms of visual spectacle.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    007HallY wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Then what about other popular British Oscar-winning directors who never directed a Bond film?

    How many of them have ever directed any big, globetrotting action-adventure film?

    How many Bond directors have, before doing Bond? Certainly not Campbell, Mendes, Fukunaga, Apted, Forster, ... Coming off big productions doesn't seem all that important to EON.

    Even in the classic era Hamilton, Gilbert and Young were more known for drama films and certainly hadn’t done anything all that epic (which is quite ironic considering how some complain about Bond directors nowadays being ‘arthouse’ filmmakers). Hunt and Glen were even first time directors.

    Yes, thank you, @007HallY. Kershner is one of the very few "Bond directors" who ever got involved in something big before their Bond gig. Even Tamahori hadn't done a lot of big stuff prior to DAD.

    Didn't think about that but that's very true! It's rather odd considering just how underwhelming NSNA is in terms of visual spectacle.

    Either Kersh was only doing what Lucas told him, or NSNA really had a crappy production going on and he got screwed out of the time, budget and talent he needed to get that film made.

    It really is a mystery to me. After TESB, you'd expect a TB readaptation to go smoothly, right? No. If the film had been made by Al Adamson, I'd have blamed it all on him. But Kerschner, though? Yeah, I don't get it. I never did.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Then what about other popular British Oscar-winning directors who never directed a Bond film?

    How many of them have ever directed any big, globetrotting action-adventure film?

    How many Bond directors have, before doing Bond? Certainly not Campbell, Mendes, Fukunaga, Apted, Forster, ... Coming off big productions doesn't seem all that important to EON.

    Even in the classic era Hamilton, Gilbert and Young were more known for drama films and certainly hadn’t done anything all that epic (which is quite ironic considering how some complain about Bond directors nowadays being ‘arthouse’ filmmakers). Hunt and Glen were even first time directors.

    Yes, thank you, @007HallY. Kershner is one of the very few "Bond directors" who ever got involved in something big before their Bond gig. Even Tamahori hadn't done a lot of big stuff prior to DAD.

    Didn't think about that but that's very true! It's rather odd considering just how underwhelming NSNA is in terms of visual spectacle.

    Either Kersh was only doing what Lucas told him, or NSNA really had a crappy production going on and he got screwed out of the time, budget and talent he needed to get that film made.

    Gotta be production. Connery realized Jack Schwartzman wasn’t up to the task during the making of the movie and wasn’t quiet about it.

    Even though ROBOCOP 2 isn’t anywhere near the original, I think Kersh managed to keep it entertaining. The big issue with that was more on the script than anything else. But it LOOKS so much nicer than NSNA.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Then what about other popular British Oscar-winning directors who never directed a Bond film?

    How many of them have ever directed any big, globetrotting action-adventure film?

    How many Bond directors have, before doing Bond? Certainly not Campbell, Mendes, Fukunaga, Apted, Forster, ... Coming off big productions doesn't seem all that important to EON.

    Even in the classic era Hamilton, Gilbert and Young were more known for drama films and certainly hadn’t done anything all that epic (which is quite ironic considering how some complain about Bond directors nowadays being ‘arthouse’ filmmakers). Hunt and Glen were even first time directors.

    Yes, thank you, @007HallY. Kershner is one of the very few "Bond directors" who ever got involved in something big before their Bond gig. Even Tamahori hadn't done a lot of big stuff prior to DAD.

    Didn't think about that but that's very true! It's rather odd considering just how underwhelming NSNA is in terms of visual spectacle.

    Either Kersh was only doing what Lucas told him, or NSNA really had a crappy production going on and he got screwed out of the time, budget and talent he needed to get that film made.

    Gotta be production. Connery realized Jack Schwartzman wasn’t up to the task during the making of the movie and wasn’t quiet about it.

    Even though ROBOCOP 2 isn’t anywhere near the original, I think Kersh managed to keep it entertaining. The big issue with that was more on the script than anything else. But it LOOKS so much nicer than NSNA.

    Yeah, I agree with that. Robocop2 had its flaws but the film works better for me than NSNA.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    In fresh rumors, Nolan's next film will release on July 17th, 2026, with an official announcement dropping in the coming weeks:

    https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2024/8/14/rumor-christopher-nolans-next-film-set-for-july-17-2026-release
  • Creasy47 wrote: »
    In fresh rumors, Nolan's next film will release on July 17th, 2026, with an official announcement dropping in the coming weeks:

    https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2024/8/14/rumor-christopher-nolans-next-film-set-for-july-17-2026-release

    Bond 26?
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Mmm.
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    Bond 26
    2026
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13152476/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

    Plot undisclosed.

    Writer Ian Fleming
    In Development
    Expected 2026


  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I'm assuming it'll be The Prisoner, but getting a Bond 26 announcement in a few weeks certainly would be nice, even if Nolan wouldn't be my first pick.
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    007HallY wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Then what about other popular British Oscar-winning directors who never directed a Bond film?

    How many of them have ever directed any big, globetrotting action-adventure film?

    How many Bond directors have, before doing Bond? Certainly not Campbell, Mendes, Fukunaga, Apted, Forster, ... Coming off big productions doesn't seem all that important to EON.

    Even in the classic era Hamilton, Gilbert and Young were more known for drama films and certainly hadn’t done anything all that epic (which is quite ironic considering how some complain about Bond directors nowadays being ‘arthouse’ filmmakers). Hunt and Glen were even first time directors.

    Yes, thank you, @007HallY. Kershner is one of the very few "Bond directors" who ever got involved in something big before their Bond gig. Even Tamahori hadn't done a lot of big stuff prior to DAD.

    Didn't think about that but that's very true! It's rather odd considering just how underwhelming NSNA is in terms of visual spectacle.

    Nobody wanted another Moonraker.
    Anyway, the casino scenes are great and the movie is kinda underrated visualy. It's a movie in which literally everyone is spying on everyone else.

  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    Whether it's Bond or not, I'm in for all things Nolan.
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    007HallY wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Then what about other popular British Oscar-winning directors who never directed a Bond film?

    How many of them have ever directed any big, globetrotting action-adventure film?

    How many Bond directors have, before doing Bond? Certainly not Campbell, Mendes, Fukunaga, Apted, Forster, ... Coming off big productions doesn't seem all that important to EON.

    Even in the classic era Hamilton, Gilbert and Young were more known for drama films and certainly hadn’t done anything all that epic (which is quite ironic considering how some complain about Bond directors nowadays being ‘arthouse’ filmmakers). Hunt and Glen were even first time directors.

    Yes, thank you, @007HallY. Kershner is one of the very few "Bond directors" who ever got involved in something big before their Bond gig. Even Tamahori hadn't done a lot of big stuff prior to DAD.

    Didn't think about that but that's very true! It's rather odd considering just how underwhelming NSNA is in terms of visual spectacle.

    Nobody wanted another Moonraker.
    Anyway, the casino scenes are great and the movie is kinda underrated visualy. It's a movie in which literally everyone is spying on everyone else.

    The casino scenes I think are some of the worse crafted scenes in NSNA! They’re obviously trying to put a new spin on the usual ‘Bond formidably plays against the villain’ by using a video game (it all looks a bit dated, but ok). The issue is there’s no tension or escalation. The extent of any consequence Bond or Largo suffer is a painful looking but ultimately quite mild electric shock. It’s kinda lame in my opinion.

    OP’s dice game isn’t exactly prolonged, but there’s a natural escalation with Khan threatening Bond, and Gobinda crushing the dice. It then leads on to Bond getting attacked. It’s just that sense of organic tension and escalation that NSNA doesn’t quite understand.

    The dance scene is a bit weird as well, but it should be a cool idea with Bond having to tell Domino in public with everyone watching. I dunno what it is though, there’s just something unintentionally funny about it with the insert shots of the random old ladies, Connery’s delivery of ‘your brothers dead… keep dancing!’ Again, there’s just something off about it all.
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I'm assuming it'll be The Prisoner, but getting a Bond 26 announcement in a few weeks certainly would be nice, even if Nolan wouldn't be my first pick.

    Nolan directing that is a lot more interesting to me than the idea of him doing Bond 26. It actually sounds quite cool.
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    I mean visualy. The casino scenes were the best until Casino Royale.
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    I mean visualy. The casino scenes were the best until Casino Royale.

    Fair enough. I actually don’t remember too much about the cinematography of those scenes 🤷‍♂️ Just those other things I mentioned.
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    The videogame was original and relevant to the subtext of the film. Octopussy has no subtext.

    Anyway, I mean visualy.
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    The videogame was original and relevant to the subtext of the film. Octopussy has no subtext.

    Anyway, I mean visualy.

    I mean, I’m personally of the opinion subtext is meaningless unless it’s felt. Sure it’s relevant, but I don’t think the scene does a good job at establishing that conflict/tension between Largo and Bond. It falls flat.

    But that’s just my opinion. Anyway, I suppose this is a Christopher Nolan thread.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    His next film has been set for July 17, 2026, and will be starring Matt Damon most likely!

    https://deadline.com/2024/10/christopher-nolan-new-movie-matt-damon-release-date-1236099940/
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    Does this mean Matt Damon is the next James Bond?
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