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Yeah. I know what you mean. But I like it. About the proper blasting of the Bond theme, Zimmer and Marr are very much likely to do that, but still create fresh sounds that still very much sounds Bondian. So we're in safe hands.
“Sissy”? Are you a 12 year old American or something?
Zimmer composition perhaps? Maybe lifted from NTTD.
I don’t think it’s embarrassment so much as it’s the composers learning from CR’s score that “less is more”. They saw that the Bond theme is effective in limited quantities. In fact, even Barry learned that too, but many tend to overlook that. It’s really Arnold that overused the theme in the Brosnan era to a ridiculous degree.
So you’re 50 right?
Don’t we deserve it?
And when they do use the Bond theme it’s always just the beginning of the theme and then it’s like they get cold feet to continue into the main chorus of the theme. Really sick and tired of this. Give me the full theme in its entirety during an action scene! I mean in FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE they blared the full theme in its entirety of just Bond checking into a hotel. Here we have prolonged action scenes that are just begging for the FULL Bond theme and instead we get some generic action scoring with maybe just a hint of the Bond theme sprinkled in somewhere in there. You can barely make it out. Or just the first opening notes of the Bond theme. I hate that. Leave the generic action scoring to the likes of Brian Tyler and give us the Bond theme!!
Which is mildly ridiculous, to be fair.
Although, with Zimmer one can expect him to blast the Bond theme fully in the film's finale or a major moment, as evident in The Lone Ranger when he blasted William Tell's The Lone Ranger theme in the film's finale, even if he added some of his own ideas. As long as Zimmer has agreed to use a famous theme, he makes good use of it. And the fact that him and Marr are doing the score with guitars, means when the Bond theme is absent, a stellar track would step in for it.
Hmmm... Mission Impossible 2 begs to differ! :D
I'm sure there was a movie where he refused to use a really famous (and brilliant) theme too, but it's gone from my mind.
Lol. But he used it in the finale....the stylish bike chase scene.
Yeah, he did not want to use the famous Batman and Superman themes. But Bond is different and he knows it.
Yeah. Because the new version of the characters were grittier.
But horribly.
I don't know if it's that: making his own for those was fine.
I feel like he may have even been up for Mission Impossible 1 but wanted to rewrite the theme... memory's a bit faded!
Yeah. I can't really remember that myself. Looks like it was always Danny Elfman for Mission Impossible 1, but I'll have to read up on that.
Not always: Alan Silvestri actually recorded a few chunks of his score before he left the movie.
Oh. He did? I didn't know that. I've never read about the score's history. Probably because I've never liked Elfman's Mission Impossible score, apart from what he did with Lalo Schifrin's original theme. And of course, U2's Adam Clayton & Larry Mullen's take on the theme. The rest of the score to me, lacks thematic materials.
It feels like the gunbarrels have gotten shorter (and the theme truncated), like the filmmakers feel a faster pace is necessary than in the '60s-'80s.
You might find it mildly ridiculous but THAT is my Bond. Big, brassy and in your face.
Well yeah, hitting the big bebop part of theme as Bond dramatically... hangs his jacket up(!) has always seemed a bit silly to me. You can't use the theme when he's doing literally anything.
I know that's not Barry's fault, the music editor thought the Dr No theme would go well there for some reason.
Yeah, here's a bit:
Yeah. Woo and Zimmer simply made it a Broken Arrow sequel.