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Yeah....it was gearing up to be a Classic Bond Song. It's title 'I Will Return' is very Bondian.
Hmmmm....Well, I think Surrender is one great Bond song....pity it's often forgotten...probably coz it appears at the end credits. I like Sheryl Crow's TND too & still very much like Garbage's TWINE...I like the way the Electric Guitar is played in the song's Chorus & Shirley Manson's lyrics has a dangerous feel to it.
So do I. Surrender is fantastic. KD Lang knocked it out of the park, imo. I find Crowe's song pretty bland in comparison.
Yes I agree with all that. I enjoy YKMN and it works very well in the credits, although as a rock song I find it kind of doesn’t quite go anywhere: it feels like there’s a next level it should build to but just repeats itself instead. It’s not as good a melody (and in some ways is the same melody!), but I find Another Way to Die a much more convincing bit of rock: it’s got really driving percussion and a nice heavy guitar together with that mariachi band and the sound they create is terrific. It actually, y’know.. rocks :)
Yeah exactly. If all we’d got all the time was Goldfinger ripoffs and nothing new and contemporary we’d have never had Nobody Does It Better.
It’s kind of funny that although John Barry was undeniably king, in the 70s he ended up kind of following the lead of the songwriters who filled in for him in the 007 films he missed, and he actually came up with worse efforts! In 1973 we got the first rock Bond song in LALD, and Barry followed this with his own take on a rock Bond song and we got... TMWTGG. Nobody Does it Better gave us a contemporary romantic, lighter sort of Bond song, and he followed the lead of that with MR and All Time High. Lovely tunes, but as songs they don’t really compare.
I actually like the song but Crow was the wrong choice to perform it. Her vocal is thin, forced and beyond her range.
At the time Whitney Houston would have knocked it out of the park and it would be considered a classic.
It’s a good point: Houston at the right point would been a perfect Bond song artist. If Dalton had made his third maybe..?
Exactly...it's better as an instrumental piece. But the vocals are almost cartoonish. The opening seconds of the song had potential...it even sounds like YKMN there a bit. It just couldn't keep up.
Yeah their voices don’t fit together: I almost think White would’ve been better on his own. It’s a good rocking song though: I enjoy it. The production is so much better than on YKMN.
True, White might have been better on his own. Or maybe if he did it with someone like Beyonce...it might have sounded more cinematic.
I'm a fan but he has certainly done much better but then again he had nowhere the time that others had, that theme tune was Winehouse and Ronson for a long time then they had to get JW in later in the game.
White as a song writer is capable so much better. As for worst song Writings On The Wall will take that prize every time, it sounds like a pastiche and then descends into an awful weak vocal and the subject matter has no bearing on the film.
Yeah it’s not White’s best, that’s certainly true. He’s probably the best songwriter they’ve had over the last, what, twenty five years or so for my money. Adele is obviously very good and deserves her success but White just pips her for my money.
I despise that song too, along with Madonna's crappy DAD effort. Both equally rancid, and both equally the worst Bond songs of all time.
+1
But of course the fans hated it, much like they hate the criminally underrated Eric Serra score.
True for a fact. I still prefer AWTD over DAD, but neither has ever made me happy. It's a miracle Kleinman managed to make something out of the DAD titles when he did. I'm still convinced Madonna wasn't a poor choice, except that she should have done this in for LTK or GE or TND. Those were her good days. Then she crapped that song 'Music' on an album and suddenly, things got bad. I mean, she did better for Austin Powers than for Bond. Yeah, analyse THAT, Sigmund Freud!
That M2K or whatever garbage they flew in for QOS, along with the song, left me with sour stomach reflux the first couple of times I watched the film. Now, I've grown used to it. I guess that's the best compliment I can give that "thing".
Musically, it’s soulful and nasty, but very Bond.
White should have done it solo with a female background...
White leaves Adele in the dust as a songwriter, I wouldn't even put them in the same ballpark.
The guy writes, produces, plays multiple instruments, Adele just sings and collaborates with others.
She can't even be compared to White in the world of music.
If we are talking sales and popularity yes she has the upper hand but talent and longevity, you only have to look at Dido to know how remembered Adele will be in a decade.
Anything White does like Radiohead causes a stir.
That makes 4 of us, then. I like it too. I used to loathe it but it grew on me with the years and now I enjoy it a lot (though I'm not a fan of the duet, I think only White or only Keys should have sung it).
I dunno: I think you can compare Adele to Adele! :)
I do tend to agree though: I much prefer White and he’s a proper legend. I was just being kind on Adele because I didn’t want to offend anyone who likes her! :) I think she’s good at what she does even if it’s not to my taste.
I'm not sure how much of a Bond enthusiast Arnold is. But his music, as generic as it often is, is a lot of fun, and the kind of fun that benefits the film. I can't say the same about Newman. I don't mean that none of his music benefits the film, but IMO for sure he made less out of more than Arnold did.
FWIW, there were three
I agree that Arnd had a tendency to write too much music. It is notable though that the last score he did for Bond was only half as long. There was even a fight without music. No idea if that was the composer's idea or someone else's.
@GadgetMan, how much action music from Romer have you heard, that you can tell that he seems to struggle?
I hugely enjoy Arnold's music, but that is one thing that can be tiresome with his music. And it's really a shame, because, as some critic once said, hevs got more themes in one film score than others have in their whole oeuvre. And he does have a lot of really cool melodies. It would be the greatest thing in the world if he would indulge more in his themes instead of hopping from one to the other.