NO TIME TO DIE (2021) - Discuss Hans Zimmer's Score

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    RogueAgent wrote: »
    Hans Zimmer it is then!!! Well I guess we await to see what he and his company comes up with?

    Nah: we say it's rubbish now before we've heard it!

    ;)
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    mtm wrote: »
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    Hans Zimmer it is then!!! Well I guess we await to see what he and his company comes up with?

    Nah: we say it's rubbish now before we've heard it!

    ;)

    :))
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    edited January 2020 Posts: 3,157
    Imagine being able to say if you like a certain composer's style after listening to a lot of his scores
  • DrClatterhandDrClatterhand United Kingdom
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    I don't care if it's by committee. If it's good, it's good.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    mtm wrote: »
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    Hans Zimmer it is then!!! Well I guess we await to see what he and his company comes up with?

    Nah: we say it's rubbish now before we've heard it!

    ;)

    Not very useful either, to be fair.
  • 00Heaven00Heaven Home
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    Sorry. I'm not very enthused by his appointment. Bit meh over it, actually. But I suppose I'll reserve judgement on the score for when I actually hear it.

    Hopefully it's all Bond. Classy and bombastic in all the right places.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    This will probably be the first Bond film without any use of the Bond theme. =))
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Murdock wrote: »
    This will probably be the first Bond film without any use of the Bond theme. =))

    Not sure of that, @Murdock. :) Zimmer's music can be very theme-heavy and toying around with the Bond theme seems to be every composer's wet dream.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Unfortunately @DarthDimi, I've yet to hear any Zimmer score with a theme, let alone remember one. :(
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited January 2020 Posts: 16,413
    Murdock wrote: »
    Unfortunately @DarthDimi, I've yet to hear any Zimmer score with a theme, let alone remember one. :(

    There are several just on the previous page..? I've got the Sherlock Holmes one stuck in my head now!
    :)
    mtm wrote: »
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    Hans Zimmer it is then!!! Well I guess we await to see what he and his company comes up with?

    Nah: we say it's rubbish now before we've heard it!

    ;)

    Not very useful either, to be fair.

    Nah it's fine: it's a joke.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    mtm wrote: »
    :)
    mtm wrote: »
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    Hans Zimmer it is then!!! Well I guess we await to see what he and his company comes up with?

    Nah: we say it's rubbish now before we've heard it!

    ;)

    Not very useful either, to be fair.

    Nah it's fine: it's a joke.

    Are you sure? ;)

  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    mtm wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Unfortunately @DarthDimi, I've yet to hear any Zimmer score with a theme, let alone remember one. :(

    There are several just on the previous page..? I've got the Sherlock Holmes one stuck in my head now!

    I've never liked Discombobulate from Sherlock Holmes. I think it's annoying and tinny. The Interstellar score never did anything for me either. Zimmer just isn't my cup of tea.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited January 2020 Posts: 16,413
    mtm wrote: »
    :)
    mtm wrote: »
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    Hans Zimmer it is then!!! Well I guess we await to see what he and his company comes up with?

    Nah: we say it's rubbish now before we've heard it!

    ;)

    Not very useful either, to be fair.

    Nah it's fine: it's a joke.

    Are you sure? ;)

    Well as you might say, other posters enjoyed it so you must be wrong ;)
    Murdock wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Unfortunately @DarthDimi, I've yet to hear any Zimmer score with a theme, let alone remember one. :(

    There are several just on the previous page..? I've got the Sherlock Holmes one stuck in my head now!

    I've never liked Discombobulate from Sherlock Holmes. I think it's annoying and tinny. The Interstellar score never did anything for me either. Zimmer just isn't my cup of tea.

    But you said you'd never heard or remembered one with a theme? How could you know you've never liked Discombobulate if you couldn't remember it? Or were you being hyperbolic?
    It's fine if you don't like it: we all like different stuff. I wouldn't honestly put any of his scores in my list of personal favourites (much like Roger is my favourite Bond, but I can see how Sean is probably the best), but I respect his ability and mastery of the form.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited January 2020 Posts: 8,217
    Murdock wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Unfortunately @DarthDimi, I've yet to hear any Zimmer score with a theme, let alone remember one. :(

    There are several just on the previous page..? I've got the Sherlock Holmes one stuck in my head now!

    I've never liked Discombobulate from Sherlock Holmes. I think it's annoying and tinny. The Interstellar score never did anything for me either. Zimmer just isn't my cup of tea.

    My favourite Zimmer's are mostly from the mid to late 90s. I've big love for Broken Arrow and The Peacemaker, especially.





    I understand people aren't fans of his more recent stuff, as it can become very samey. But, I personally enjoy a lot of it, even if I never listened to it and thought "this guy has to do Bond one day!"
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    :)
    mtm wrote: »
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    Hans Zimmer it is then!!! Well I guess we await to see what he and his company comes up with?

    Nah: we say it's rubbish now before we've heard it!

    ;)

    Not very useful either, to be fair.

    Nah it's fine: it's a joke.

    Are you sure? ;)

    Well as you might say, other posters enjoyed it so you must be wrong ;)

    Ha! I don't think I'd be saying that in this case. Humor isn't a case of simple rights and wrongs! But I won't cry about it. ;)
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Unfortunately @DarthDimi, I've yet to hear any Zimmer score with a theme, let alone remember one. :(
    Thanks, @Murdock. Exactly my problem. And regarding another posting a while back: The original Pirates of the Caribbean score was attributed to Klaus Badelt...whatever the role of Hans Zimmer was in that. And yes, the score was good for that kind of movie. I just fail to find anything similarly defining for any (other) Zimmer movie. His stuff is just bland.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Unfortunately @DarthDimi, I've yet to hear any Zimmer score with a theme, let alone remember one. :(

    You really ought to catch THE ROCK sometime.


  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    I'm willing to bet the Bond theme will be in there somewhere.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Unfortunately @DarthDimi, I've yet to hear any Zimmer score with a theme, let alone remember one. :(
    Thanks, @Murdock. Exactly my problem. And regarding another posting a while back: The original Pirates of the Caribbean score was attributed to Klaus Badelt...whatever the role of Hans Zimmer was in that. And yes, the score was good for that kind of movie. I just fail to find anything similarly defining for any (other) Zimmer movie. His stuff is just bland.

    But Zimmer did compose the Main Theme for Pirates, as far as I'm aware. He just didn't do the bulk of the score.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited January 2020 Posts: 16,413
    Murdock wrote: »
    Unfortunately @DarthDimi, I've yet to hear any Zimmer score with a theme, let alone remember one. :(

    You really ought to catch THE ROCK sometime.



    I do remember the action theme in that being slightly annoying as it seemed to pop up constantly! :D A long time since I watched it though: I suspect the whole film has dated quite a bit!
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Murdock wrote: »
    This will probably be the first Bond film without any use of the Bond theme. =))

    Be careful what you wish for!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Murdock wrote: »
    This will probably be the first Bond film without any use of the Bond theme. =))

    Be careful what you wish for!

    And it'd have to go some to have less than David Arnold's Casino Royale.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    The most memorable thing of DRIVING MISS DAISY? Hans' score! If you don't find this tune "memorable", well, there's no helping you.


  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Murdock wrote: »
    This will probably be the first Bond film without any use of the Bond theme. =))

    Be careful what you wish for!

    Oh don't worry my expectations that this score are beyond low. I'm not expecting much of anything.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    The most memorable thing of DRIVING MISS DAISY? Hans' score! If you don't find this tune "memorable", well, there's no helping you.



    This was pretty fantastic live, too.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    This will probably be the first Bond film without any use of the Bond theme. =))

    Be careful what you wish for!

    Oh don't worry my expectations that this score are beyond low. I'm not expecting much of anything.

    Fair enough, that was my general attitude towards the Bond scores up to 2008.
  • Posts: 17,756
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    The only thing I get from the current discussion on this thread is a reminder how much I hate modern day film scores…
    I don’t think that’s very useful. Yes, the majority of them aren’t great, but then that’s always been the case. Not all are classics, it’s just the classics we remember.

    IMO the average 60's/70's/80's scores were much more fun and interesting than the sounds we get today – and the linked videos above were only a reminder of that for me. With Arnold's scores I sort of felt the same as I do with older scores. Time will tell if Zimmer does the same. I'm not a fan, that's for sure.

    Zimmer was producing scores in the 80s so you should be happy ;)

    I know, but the music he's made in the…what…last 15 years or so doesn't resonate with me. It's just bombastic noise.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Unfortunately @DarthDimi, I've yet to hear any Zimmer score with a theme, let alone remember one. :(

    You really ought to catch THE ROCK sometime.
    Yes, but here you have the problem for me: I've watched The Rock and probably scores (pun intended) of other Zimmer-scored movies several times...and not even once it caused me to say, hey, you have to get the soundtrack on CD. I don't remember that music at all. And I do have more than 500 soundtracks on CD...but only eight of them are Zimmer's. Now I realise that his music may be perfect for certain movies...just like ketchup and mustard may be perfect for hamburgers. But Williams, Barry etc. are like a three-star chef's created gravy in comparison. And since Bond films are my personal cineastic entrecôtes or even better, I don't want any ketchup near them.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Funny enough I was looking through my CD shelf and found a copy of The Rock soundtrack that I didn't even know I had. I don't remember when I got it. It must have been around the time I found a pair of Opera glasses that look like the ones Bond used in the beginning of TLD.

    tasco1.jpg
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    edited January 2020 Posts: 8,188
    THE ROCK is really the best unofficial Bond film about Connery Bond if he were captured in the 60s by the FBI. His character background is pretty much exactly like Bond's aside from his rank (Captain instead of Commander).
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited January 2020 Posts: 16,413
    The most memorable thing of DRIVING MISS DAISY? Hans' score! If you don't find this tune "memorable", well, there's no helping you.



    Oh gosh: I'd forgotten that one. I didn't realise I'd remember it!
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    The only thing I get from the current discussion on this thread is a reminder how much I hate modern day film scores…
    I don’t think that’s very useful. Yes, the majority of them aren’t great, but then that’s always been the case. Not all are classics, it’s just the classics we remember.

    IMO the average 60's/70's/80's scores were much more fun and interesting than the sounds we get today – and the linked videos above were only a reminder of that for me. With Arnold's scores I sort of felt the same as I do with older scores. Time will tell if Zimmer does the same. I'm not a fan, that's for sure.

    Zimmer was producing scores in the 80s so you should be happy ;)

    I know, but the music he's made in the…what…last 15 years or so doesn't resonate with me. It's just bombastic noise.

    I mean, it just isn't though. Just being objective, whether you or I like it or not, it isn't that. Presumably you like the Bond films, and if someone dismissed them as being just witless, artless hokum with no value whatsoever and art of knowledge of the medium- just 'noise', we know they'd be objectively wrong. They're allowed not to like them, of course they are, but the films are not without some art or wit or technical high quality.
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