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A good score!
We should. ;)
I'm not aware on the subject of the title song artist that it has been revealed any sooner than a month or so before the film is released.
There is a lot of speculation on it and Adele was very much a foregone conclusion but I'm pretty sure in this era that the title song artist has not been known officially 4 months before the film, so yes I will take umbrage on that comment.
I'm pretty sure Smith may well have been speculated (although Radiohead had the gig first) but the official announcement was about a month or not much more before the film was released.
Also Zimmer has been reported by reliable sources to have been working on this already before the announcement.
I personally think and I might be wrong but Zimmer has been assigned much earlier than we think, the rumour of Romer being let go as been around for sometime.
EON have kept their cards very close to their chest. For instance Waller Bridge was assigned to the script much sooner than it was announced.
It is possible that Zimmer was given the call some time ago and asked to start putting something together but EON didn't want it public knowledge for a while.
All this talk of things be haphazard are I think born from the fact that fanboys don't know these things so the speculate that the production is in a mess, when the truth is that EON have been very shrewd here, especially after the way SPECTRE was public knowledge months before the film came out.
What might appear chaos is just EON wanting as much of this film under wraps as they can and if that upsets some that want it all laid out for them then so be it.
Well, not entirely. If does have some good tracks...but in reality it's a continuation of SF's score. That helicopter fight needed a new good Bond track, so does the Car chase, and that moment where Bond uses his watch with the help of Madeleine to escape, so does the Boat & Helicopter chase & many other scenes.
My main problem with SP's score is, most of it's action scenes has SF's tracks. Even if Mendes suggested re-using SF's tracks, I think Newman didn't really push to say NO....after all, it's his name that would appear on screen as Composer...not Mendes. So are we saying if Mendes told Arnold to re-use majority of his previous scores in the present film, Arnold would just do that without really telling Mendes why it won't work....It seems to me Newman didn't really care.
I imagine it’s likely even longer if they’re already in recording sessions.
If NTTD is the mystery project here then he’s likely been at it for a few months (and probably doing much of it himself if it is a dream project).
A lot of biased assumptions here.
Although we can't say for sure but from what @Red_Snow has said that he said at the concert he attended, that it all seems too much of coincidence not to be NTTD.
I mean this is the most prolific composer in Hollywood, the go to guy for many big directors and for Zimmer to say he is working on a dream project it has to be something very special for him.
He has already done plenty of big franchises so this being Bond he is talking about seems a definite to me
Even a big name, Zimmer must be in awe of Barry and also the heritage of Bond and how important music is to the series, I can imagine a project like this would have Hans as giddy as a schoolboy.
I can imagine it must have been amazing experience seeing him live @Red_Snow
I for one are most excited to hear a Hans Zimmer Bond score.
Oh! no, iam not....My point is, i don't think any Bond fan would have enjoyed Barry repeating majority of his tracks from FRWL in GF. Coz it might have ruined both scores. Imagine if Newman was completely originally in SP....as he was in SF, his Bond reputation would have been better.
You said that Newman didn’t object to Mendes and Smith reusing cues because he doesn’t care, with nothing to back it up.
I don’t like that Mendes used some SF tracks. When I say I thought the score was good, I’m only commenting on the new material that he composed for SP. I certainly would have like it more if Newman was given the task of scoring the sections Mendes filled in with the temp tracks. Of the reused tracks, the only hits I like are the reprises like M and Moneypenny’s theme, basically reprises that made sense. But the bits that didn’t work were what you pointed out like the escape from the desert lair and stuff like “Somebody Usually Dies” tacked on the Nine Eyes voting session.
Yeah, that's what I meant too. There's a nice recurring theme that appears in 'Crows Klinik', 'Secret Room' & 'Safe House'. which are great. Just that majority of the score felt like SF....Coz the SF tracks were featured in key scenes. And I don't have any proof about Newman not caring enough...it's just a hunch I have. For some reason I think Newman was a bit casual about it in SP. To be fair to Newman he did surprise people with his SF score. Coz am sure majority of us expected worse. But it was fair enough. And when it was announced that he was returning for SP, I was really looking forward to something new & better. But to hear it bearing too much resemblance to SF's score was truly underwhelming.
That’s not helpful.
The biggest problem with the SP theme is that he started repeating old cues as early as the PTS! Lazy, lazy, lazy. The Maestro had the decency to repeat, say, the 007 theme, an hour and a half into MR, etc.
It makes sense to use the same cue for Dench at the beginning and end of SF, and again in SP. But there were so many instances in SP where Newman just lifted random cues from SF and dropped them in an unrelated scene in SP.
Reusing cues was not Newman’s call, that was Mendes, after a suggestion by Lee Smith in the editing process.
Whoever may be of fault of reusing tracks I really don't care, but I had the very same experience with SP.
Yeah, that's why I said with Newman knowing that it's his name that will appear under music, he should have really stood his ground....he's Mendes' friend after all, so am sure Mendes would have listened....it's not that easy for fans to always be reminded that it's not Newman's fault. I obviously don't have any proof....but it seems to me like Mendes just told Newman to reuse his old themes & he agreed....instantly.
It says EON insisted in inserting the title song, not that Newman “refused” to.
Exactly. 100%
As if Bond fans didn't notice enough.....Inception was indeed Zimmer's unofficial Bond score.
Couldn't help but feeling a little creative tonight. Here's one of the tracks I mentioned, replacing Newman's in the Rome car chase from SP:
Wow! So much better! Even if it's from Batman. I think the track is 'Molossus' from Batman Begins. And coupled with getting rid of Moneypenny's dialogue, this track adds intensity to the Car chase.....this just gets to show that a good score might have elevated SP. Of coz Zimmer doesn't have to sound like Batman....but he'll still do a great score for NTTD.
:) Indeed.
It isn’t. It’s a fan page. Fukunaga has an actual Facebook profile but it he hasn’t used it in a decade.