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NO TIME TO DIE (2021) - Discuss Hans Zimmer's Score

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited January 2020 Posts: 16,344
    Shardlake wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I did hear a bit of 1917 on the radio just now and it is rather beautiful.
    Shardlake wrote: »
    I've done a u-turn on Newman's score for SF after seeing it in concert.

    I never disliked it but boy seeing it live you get a real feel for how it compliments the film.

    I've always loved Skyfall, it has flaws but each time I see it I have a smile on my face and feel more than adequately entertained.

    I think previously I just took the score for granted, not really noticing it, sometimes the score standing out isn't always good, if it propels the film along without bringing too much attention to itself shouldn't we consider that job done?

    To be honest when it started I was paying attention to the orchestra but after a while I just watched the screen and it was only a few times I had to remind myself it was actually a live score playing as it felt so close to the original score on the soundtrack of the film.

    Yes I wish they'd do a Barry score live at some point. On Her Madge probably would be high on the list, but I'd like a lush one like Moonraker. I expect they'd probably do Goldfinger, and although that's great I think there are other scores I'd like to see performed more; but they sort of seem to choose them based on the film more than the score. Reasonable I suppose: Skyfall and Casino Royale are pretty popular recent hits.

    Walecs wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    I have listened to 1917's score since December. I don't think anyone ever doubted Newman's ability as a Composer, he's been nominated for an Academy award 14 times, and that says a lot.....
    That means nothing, Academy Awards are a joke.

    John Barry won five. Seems reasonable to me: he was pretty good.

    Of all these in concerts OHMSS would be my dream one, can't understand why they couldn't even do a ltd run of just a reissue of OHMSS at the cinema, although 50th of the film they really should have done the in concert.

    I imagine GF would be the one they'd expect to get the most interest due to it's reputation outside the fan base being the quintessential Bond film.

    Not that I would balk at them doing it but my preference would be OHMSS because it is the pinnacle of Barry's Bond scoring and my all time favourite score and in my top ten favourite albums of all time.

    Yeah I completely agree there: OHMSS would probably be the one I'd pick too (even if I'm sure the moog bit would be awful! :) ).
    But I reckon if it's not a Craig film then they'd go for a Connery; possibly a Brosnan if it means Arnold turns up in person.
    I'm seeing Superman at the Albert Hall at some point this year; fingers crossed they go for an older Bond at some point. Surprisingly they haven't done a Star Wars yet as far as I know; presumably Disney are working out what to do with that.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    Not a concert but this is good
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    mtm wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    I have listened to 1917's score since December. I don't think anyone ever doubted Newman's ability as a Composer, he's been nominated for an Academy award 14 times, and that says a lot.....
    That means nothing, Academy Awards are a joke.

    John Barry won five. Seems reasonable to me: he was pretty good.

    Good for him; he deserved some kind of recognization.

    Yeah I think they're deserved too. Newman certainly deserves recognition as well ;)

    I don't know how I managed to misspell "recognition" like that :)) For some reason I've been misspelling words all day, not only in English but in Italian too.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Walecs wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    I have listened to 1917's score since December. I don't think anyone ever doubted Newman's ability as a Composer, he's been nominated for an Academy award 14 times, and that says a lot.....
    That means nothing, Academy Awards are a joke.

    John Barry won five. Seems reasonable to me: he was pretty good.

    Good for him; he deserved some kind of recognization.

    Yeah I think they're deserved too. Newman certainly deserves recognition as well ;)

    I don't know how I managed to misspell "recognition" like that :)) For some reason I've been misspelling words all day, not only in English but in Italian too.

    Oh I didn't notice- I wasn't taking the mick or anything :)
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    edited January 2020 Posts: 4,247
    mtm wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    I have listened to 1917's score since December. I don't think anyone ever doubted Newman's ability as a Composer, he's been nominated for an Academy award 14 times, and that says a lot.....
    That means nothing, Academy Awards are a joke.

    John Barry won five. Seems reasonable to me: he was pretty good.

    Good for him; he deserved some kind of recognization.

    Yeah I think they're deserved too. Newman certainly deserves recognition as well ;)
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Whoever & whatever Genre they settle on....I just hope they focus more on making the song very Good & Bondian....instead of targeting an Oscar award. In recent times, songs like YKMN wasn't made with winning an Oscar in mind & the song I can imagine is played frequently by Bond fans.

    How do you focus on getting a best song Oscar though? Make a really good song that fits the film and which people really like? I think that kind of should be the approach of making a Bond song too. Skyfall is a pretty perfect Bond song; not my favourite but it's a great song, works for the film fantastically and also was a massive hit. I think acting like Bond films aren't populist would be a bit strange.

    Yeah, true....but the balance needs to be right though....so the artistic focus isn't derailed.
  • DrClatterhandDrClatterhand United Kingdom
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    I listened to 1917 today in my car. It's a work of beauty. It's up there with Road To Perdition.

    http://download-soundtracks.com/movie_soundtracks/1917-soundtrack-by-thomas-newman/
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    All this talk of music made me watch John Barry scores all over again. Here's an amazing video i found. Enjoy ;)


    This is the same channel who made Bond Tribute.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited January 2020 Posts: 16,344
    That Barry vid is a very pleasant listen! Thank you.

    Did anyone else manage to go and see him perform? I'm happy I managed to do that.

    GadgetMan wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    I have listened to 1917's score since December. I don't think anyone ever doubted Newman's ability as a Composer, he's been nominated for an Academy award 14 times, and that says a lot.....
    That means nothing, Academy Awards are a joke.

    John Barry won five. Seems reasonable to me: he was pretty good.

    Good for him; he deserved some kind of recognization.

    Yeah I think they're deserved too. Newman certainly deserves recognition as well ;)
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Whoever & whatever Genre they settle on....I just hope they focus more on making the song very Good & Bondian....instead of targeting an Oscar award. In recent times, songs like YKMN wasn't made with winning an Oscar in mind & the song I can imagine is played frequently by Bond fans.

    How do you focus on getting a best song Oscar though? Make a really good song that fits the film and which people really like? I think that kind of should be the approach of making a Bond song too. Skyfall is a pretty perfect Bond song; not my favourite but it's a great song, works for the film fantastically and also was a massive hit. I think acting like Bond films aren't populist would be a bit strange.

    Yeah, true....but the balance needs to be right though....so the artistic focus isn't derailed.

    I don't think it has been so far. I don't know how you chase an Oscar with a Bond song. The only way to do that is to make a really good song.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    edited January 2020 Posts: 4,247
    Yeah, I don't necessarily need the song winning an Oscar....I just need a song that can be enjoyable for several months. I think a Good Bond score & song, can keep a fan occupied for a lengthy period....until talks of the next installment gets underway.
  • antovolkantovolk
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    So...with Eilish supposedly indeed doing the title song, looks like a Zimmer collab is unlikely...
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Collaboration on title song with Zimmer is a definite no if it's Billie?
    That would be too bad ...
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    Wait, is that official?
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited January 2020 Posts: 12,480
    Nearly official ... I mean I want official confirmation; but I don't see it yet.
    I'm okay with either Beyonce or Billie. EON need to tell us now; they really do.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    4EverBonded wrote: »
    Nearly official ... I mean I want official confirmation; but I don't see it yet.
    I'm okay with either Beyonce or Billie. EON need to tell us now; they really do.

    Same. Honestly, I'm ok with anyone as long as it is not Ed Sheeran or Adele, though Arctic Monkeys would have been my top choice.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    I guess I say "nearly" because source is our site here:
  • GetafixGetafix
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    Billie Eillish seems more interesting to me.
  • AgentM72AgentM72
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    I like her sound. Haunting, emotional, and real.

    From a marketing perspective this would be a massive win in terms of audience demographics. Bond skews older but her popularity with teenagers is skyrocketing right now. Particularly if she wins a Grammy (or two) next week.

    I was hoping for an Adele return, but this makes a lot of sense. Can't wait to hear it!
  • FrankXavierFrankXavier
    Posts: 678
    Not a fan of Eillish.
  • JamesStockJamesStock
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    Gosh darn this younger generation and their emo-pop!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Lots of people love her so it's not for me to say she can't do something interesting. She certainly seems a bit more real than most of the pop people.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,195
    She’s not my first choice, or even in my top 20+ , but I can see the potential.
    Having a 22 year old daughter, I’ve heard quite a bit of Eillish’s music; while I find it interesting, it falls into the “ I get tired of it very quickly “ category, and tends to be overly ethereal and “emo”. Her vocals aren’t bad but seem gimmicky and are generally depressive.
    Hopefully her negative tendencies can be reigned in and her positive qualities can be used to craft an exciting, fresh Bond title track.
  • MinionMinion Don't Hassle the Bond
    Posts: 1,165
    JamesStock wrote: »
    Gosh darn this younger generation and their emo-pop!
    Now now, Grandpa Simpson :D
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    MI6 is getting a scoop, here, it would seem. Nobody else is reporting this.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,344
    TripAces wrote: »
    MI6 is getting a scoop, here, it would seem. Nobody else is reporting this.

    Slightly odd report: they don't even say if they have sources telling them it- just that they 'understand' she is doing it. Maybe they're right but it's not something I'd print elsewhere! :)
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    The article doesn't mention it, but Billie Eillish's record label is under Interscope Records, which is owned by Universal Music Group.
  • BonSimonLeBon_1BonSimonLeBon_1
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    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    The article doesn't mention it, but Billie Eillish's record label is under Interscope Records, which is owned by Universal Music Group.

    UMG own about 20 odd labels to be fair.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    Posts: 8,179
    BonSimonLeBon_1 wrote: »
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    The article doesn't mention it, but Billie Eillish's record label is under Interscope Records, which is owned by Universal Music Group.

    UMG own about 20 odd labels to be fair.

    True, my point being that we may be seeing Universal push an artist under their label like how Sony did.

    Curiously, Sam Smith was under Universal, not Sony.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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  • delfloriadelfloria
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    mtm wrote: »
    That Barry vid is a very pleasant listen! Thank you.

    Did anyone else manage to go and see him perform? I'm happy I managed to do that.

    GadgetMan wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    I have listened to 1917's score since December. I don't think anyone ever doubted Newman's ability as a Composer, he's been nominated for an Academy award 14 times, and that says a lot.....
    That means nothing, Academy Awards are a joke.

    John Barry won five. Seems reasonable to me: he was pretty good.

    Good for him; he deserved some kind of recognization.

    Yeah I think they're deserved too. Newman certainly deserves recognition as well ;)
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Whoever & whatever Genre they settle on....I just hope they focus more on making the song very Good & Bondian....instead of targeting an Oscar award. In recent times, songs like YKMN wasn't made with winning an Oscar in mind & the song I can imagine is played frequently by Bond fans.

    How do you focus on getting a best song Oscar though? Make a really good song that fits the film and which people really like? I think that kind of should be the approach of making a Bond song too. Skyfall is a pretty perfect Bond song; not my favourite but it's a great song, works for the film fantastically and also was a massive hit. I think acting like Bond films aren't populist would be a bit strange.

    Yeah, true....but the balance needs to be right though....so the artistic focus isn't derailed.

    I don't think it has been so far. I don't know how you chase an Oscar with a Bond song. The only way to do that is to make a really good song.

    Yes, I heard Barry live at the Hollywood bowl. A highlight of my life.
  • DCisaredDCisared Liverpool
    Posts: 1,329
    delfloria wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    That Barry vid is a very pleasant listen! Thank you.

    Did anyone else manage to go and see him perform? I'm happy I managed to do that.

    GadgetMan wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    I have listened to 1917's score since December. I don't think anyone ever doubted Newman's ability as a Composer, he's been nominated for an Academy award 14 times, and that says a lot.....
    That means nothing, Academy Awards are a joke.

    John Barry won five. Seems reasonable to me: he was pretty good.

    Good for him; he deserved some kind of recognization.

    Yeah I think they're deserved too. Newman certainly deserves recognition as well ;)
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Whoever & whatever Genre they settle on....I just hope they focus more on making the song very Good & Bondian....instead of targeting an Oscar award. In recent times, songs like YKMN wasn't made with winning an Oscar in mind & the song I can imagine is played frequently by Bond fans.

    How do you focus on getting a best song Oscar though? Make a really good song that fits the film and which people really like? I think that kind of should be the approach of making a Bond song too. Skyfall is a pretty perfect Bond song; not my favourite but it's a great song, works for the film fantastically and also was a massive hit. I think acting like Bond films aren't populist would be a bit strange.

    Yeah, true....but the balance needs to be right though....so the artistic focus isn't derailed.

    I don't think it has been so far. I don't know how you chase an Oscar with a Bond song. The only way to do that is to make a really good song.

    Yes, I heard Barry live at the Hollywood bowl. A highlight of my life.

    I shook Jackie Stewart’s hand at Silverstone once so...
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