The Cinematography of NTTD - Linus Sandgren

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    Just been flicking through this thread @Pierce2Daniel and Ive worked with the DoP on that Orlebar brown commercial on a 3 or 4 small film jobs. I think it was directed by Greg Williams too.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Thank you for the insight @AKillToAView

    I recently watched TDK again and it's truly quite startlingly the distinction between 35mm and IMAX. The IMAX stuff is just gorgeous and the clarity of the image is stunning. Does anyone know if we have seen any IMAX footage in the trailers yet (but it's just been cropped into widescreen?) I have a hunch that @antovolk will know.........

    If @antovolk is correct (and he usually is) about the IMAX format being utilised in key sequences such as the Norway lake, in Matera, and during some of the chase sequences later, we've seen more than a few IMAX shots.
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    Thank you for the insight @AKillToAView

    I recently watched TDK again and it's truly quite startlingly the distinction between 35mm and IMAX. The IMAX stuff is just gorgeous and the clarity of the image is stunning. Does anyone know if we have seen any IMAX footage in the trailers yet (but it's just been cropped into widescreen?) I have a hunch that @antovolk will know.........

    If @antovolk is correct (and he usually is) about the IMAX format being utilised in key sequences such as the Norway lake, in Matera, and during some of the chase sequences later, we've seen more than a few IMAX shots.

    Yup, we've seen plenty for sure, so far.
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    Univex wrote: »
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    Univex wrote: »
    Do you guys think they'd spend that amount of money building that room with that view atop scaffolding in Matera just to CGI the backdrop?

    Of course it's real. It's all Fukunaga's sunset scramble ;)

    They had two sets of the hotel room. One in Pinewood and one in Matera. From what i heard all interior scenes were done in Pinewood and only the view and balcony stuff was done in Matera. Might be this shot is a merger, but the background would definitly be 'real'

    Could be, yes. I had no ideia they built it in Pinewood as well.

    Yeah the crew told me in Matera.
    They literally build this whole construction just for the view and around one day of filming lol.
    On Stage L, if anyone cares.

    Oh and btw, i think the sun is too much north to be legit in this shot. At least for filming in September.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    @Pierce2Daniel, I was able to toggle between the exact same frames from each of the trailers and yes, it did. So subtle I didn't even notice until I did it, but yes. We have less yellow and more blue in the NBA game spot. So that's where we are now.

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    The great @Contraband has posted a rather terrific interview with Linus Sandgren in the production thread. See it here:
    https://www.docdroid.net/zVBItTD/american-cinematographer-nttd.pdf#page=35

    There are some amazing insights - for me the biggest highlight is that Fukunaga won't be constantly opening and closing the aspect ration from IMAX to 2:35 (much like Nolan did to my annoyance in TDKR) but will instead open the frame for entire sequences (much like Hunger Games: Catching Fire). This is music to my ears. The thought of seeing some proper big spectacle IMAX footage is exciting. Once the DVD release comes, it'll be more exciting as we will see those gorgeous high-resolution images in their full aspect ratio. Unless, they crop for DVD? Any thoughts if they will @antovolk ?

    More interestingly, Sandgren spoke of bringing a lush more classic look to the film. This is clear from the trailers, which clearly ditched the more muted and realistic tone. Instead injecting exoticism, colour and glamour.......I Just want more screencaps! Though, for the time being these great new shots will do:

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  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    I'm pretty sure it will be cropped for Blu-ray, yes.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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    The great @Contraband

    Almost sounds like a magician, like Houdini :D
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    I'm pretty sure it will be cropped for Blu-ray, yes.

    Obviously yeah as it won't be in the original 1.43 ratio. But will they present the IMAX sequences in full screen 16:9 like on Nolan's films and First Man, or crop it all to 2.40 like Mission Impossible 4, Batman v Superman etc...
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    Contraband wrote: »
    The great @Contraband

    Almost sounds like a magician, like Houdini :D

    The simple answer is that we don't really know yet. Some films open the frame even on DVD....case in point here are screencaps from TDKR:

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    ...and some screencaps from Hunger Games 2:

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  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    The great @Contraband
    Contraband wrote: »
    Almost sounds like a magician, like Houdini :D
    He used to be with the Contras before he got banned. Just the kind of guy Sanchez would send.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited March 2020 Posts: 2,541
    QBranch wrote: »
    The great @Contraband
    Contraband wrote: »
    Almost sounds like a magician, like Houdini :D
    He used to be with the Contras before he got banned. Just the kind of guy Sanchez would send.

    @QBranch You mean this contra :D
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  • edited March 2020 Posts: 4,408
    I'm intrigued what people think of the style of the film. The way I see it, the Craig era breaks down as follows:
    1. Casino Royale: It had a lush and exotic palette. Very reminisent of those early Bond films. Surprisingly it was very disimilar to Meheux's more muted and grounded work in GE.
    2. Quantum of Solace: It had an earthy texture. It was very filmic and grainy. Quite beautiful and sun-kissed.
    3. Skyfall: Sleek, sexy, modern and cool.
    4. Spectre: Dark, moody and foreboding. A touch romantic and mysterious
    5. No Time to Die: Stylised and classical.

      It's interesting to compare this film to the 'other' big spy film this year Tenet. seemingly from that film's trailer, Nolan has gone for a gritty, grainy and overcast espionage feel. Reminiscent of the world of John Le Carre.

      In my opinion, it’s what a spy movie in 2020 should look like…..

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      Meanwhile, Fukunaga has decided to make something more poppy and stylistic. It's more flamboyant and not afraid to play with colour. It's more opulent.

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  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    Anything Nolan does, Nolan fans: this is how it should be done. Sorry no, NTTD looks far better than Tenet. Nolan's new film looks soul-less for me, a bit harsh i know but i could be wrong though, still judging from the trailer i am more excited for NTTD than Tenet.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    I'm psyched to see Tenet as well as NTTD. I'm naturally more keen to see our Bond film, but I like Nolan and this looks very good.

    However, the cinematography in NTTD is so outstanding, the best I have seen of any upcoming film. I expect it will be one of my favorite films just from that aspect. I've been excited about this since I first saw some of Sandgren's work on NTTD. Superb work - stunning, thoughtful, and it seems that he and Cary have worked together so beautifully.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    @Pierce2Daniel I am sure the problem is me, but ... I went 3 times to that link you provided, trying to find the interview with Linus Sandgren and could not. Many annoying ads, scrolling did not help. I could seen Bond cinematography mentioned, by film, but never got to NTTD. Would you please just copy paste that interview, the test, here? I'd really appreciate it.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Ok, thanks!
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Funnily, TENET is by the same photographer as SPECTRE, hence his signature yellow/brown tones. So we essentially “got” what a 21st century Bond film should look like and fans hated it.

    For what it’s worth, I loved SP’s photography.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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    Might be the wrong thread. Posted March 24:

    How Cinematography In 'Casino Royale' Revolutionized The Bond Franchise | The Art Of Film

    Generally, cinematography has been an afterthought for James Bond films. However, when the franchise was rebooted with 2006’s “Casino Royale” (starring Daniel Craig), the cinematography was completely rehauled thanks to director Martin Campbell and cinematographer Phil Méheux, who made two subtle but impactful changes to the cinematography — moving the camera and reflecting the mood. These cinematic principles helped “Casino Royale” feel more authentic. By comparing similar clips of James Bond in “Casino Royale” with clips from older entries in the franchise, the cinematic differences become apparent.


  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
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    Interesting video. Thanks @Contraband
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Good video, but will no doubt upset the enthusiasts for pre-CR cinematography!
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    @Contraband - great video. Odd that they focussed on CR when I think the other three Craig films have better photography.

    I just found this Honest Trailer for La La Land. It's pretty hilarious. However, one thing that struck me was how much some of the shots look like they could have been pulled from NTTD.

    Is NTTD actually an action-movie version of La La Land? No complaints from me there.

  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    @Contraband - great video. Odd that they focussed on CR when I think the other three Craig films have better photography.

    Well, better is subjective; the one thing that has always made me partial to the look of CR is its vibrant palette. I’m thrilled to se that NTTD appears to share this quality.

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    All of Craig's films have great cinematography. But I do love CR's vibrant slightly over saturated look. Been missing vibrant colours in a Bond film since SP.
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    Thank you for the insight @AKillToAView

    I recently watched TDK again and it's truly quite startlingly the distinction between 35mm and IMAX. The IMAX stuff is just gorgeous and the clarity of the image is stunning. Does anyone know if we have seen any IMAX footage in the trailers yet (but it's just been cropped into widescreen?) I have a hunch that @antovolk will know.........

    If @antovolk is correct (and he usually is) about the IMAX format being utilised in key sequences such as the Norway lake, in Matera, and during some of the chase sequences later, we've seen more than a few IMAX shots.

    I think with the switching IMAX ratio it's important to set 'rules.' For example, whilst The Dark Knight Rises has amazing IMAX photography, there are no rules to what constitutes an 'IMAX worthy' scene and what would be sufficiently photographed in 35mm. So you have a slightly awkward intercutting between the two.

    However, I think Nolan did a terrific job of explaining the parameters of what with 'IMAX worthy' in Interstellar; where essentially all interiors are 35mm and the exteriors/space scenes go full IMAX.

    For my money, I think Sandgren and Fukunaga are 100% to have made the decision that when they go full IMAX it will only be for extended sequences. Otherwise it can feel a little ad-hoc and shoehorned in. I am curious how the dialogue scenes were done in IMAX.

    I recently washed Battle of the Sexes which was photographed by Sandgren. It's a seriously underrated movie and one I sincerely encourage people to check out. It's very good and incredibly gorgeous. It got my more hyped for NTTD (if that was even possible)

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  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    The repeated switching between aspect ratios caused by mixing IMAX with other stock actually ruins my immersion in a sequence, so I'm quite glad that they have a game plan for it.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    The repeated switching between aspect ratios caused by mixing IMAX with other stock actually ruins my immersion in a sequence, so I'm quite glad that they have a game plan for it.

    They should call it IMIX.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    They’ll basically do what GHOST PROTOCOL did where IMAX sequences are actual full sequences.
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    I wouldn’t recommend Transformers: The Last Knight then.... one, because its awful, and second, the aspect ratio changes every 3-4 seconds. Very disorientating and unnecessary.
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