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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,422
    Have you ever seen anything more likely to go up in value? If only I had a garage to store these away for the next twenty years. £9.5K-£11.5K!!
    https://www.hobbsparker.co.uk/car-auctions/auction-dates/catalogue/lot/?departmentId&saleTypeId=49&auctionId=452614&lotId=10042457
  • OctopussyOctopussy Piz Gloria, Schilthorn, Switzerland.
    Posts: 1,081
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  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
    Posts: 9,041
    There goes the remainder of elegance in Aston Martin cars. U - G - L - Y !!!!!!!!!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited March 2020 Posts: 16,422
    Yeah it's horrid. Putting those extra lines around the radiator opening actually makes it look like an old man.

    As you say, JW, they have completely forgotten elegance.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,136
    I dislike it too. The reason Astons have always been the loveliest of the super expensive car segment was their ability to design elegant sports cars.
    This seems to be turned around now, as if they're making cars for lottery winners or football players. Just like the rest of the lot. Pains me to see that.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    edited March 2020 Posts: 13,978
    Octopussy wrote: »
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    What in the name of Bamford and Martin have they done? Kill it, kill it with fire... NOW!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I do actually tend to think that James Bond got the seemingly last vaguely pretty (although I don't like it hugely) Aston with the DB10. Since then they've all been rather nasty-looking.
  • UnivexUnivex
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    It's a freaking speedster. They're supposed to be eccentric and fun. Take a look at the McLaren speedster, or the Ferrari one, or the new Bentley. They're all cuckoo head's creations. I don't dislike it. I'd love to see them all race each other. Now that would be something.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,553
    The little insignia on the back looks a touch familiar... if you're into shady evil organizations that is.
    https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/6/21167951/koenigsegg-gemera-hybrid-photos-specs-geneva-motor-show-2020
  • OctopussyOctopussy Piz Gloria, Schilthorn, Switzerland.
    edited March 2020 Posts: 1,081
    Univex wrote: »
    It's a freaking speedster. They're supposed to be eccentric and fun. Take a look at the McLaren speedster, or the Ferrari one, or the new Bentley. They're all cuckoo head's creations. I don't dislike it. I'd love to see them all race each other. Now that would be something.

    +1

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    mtm wrote: »
    I do actually tend to think that James Bond got the seemingly last vaguely pretty (although I don't like it hugely) Aston with the DB10. Since then they've all been rather nasty-looking.

    The DB10 is better looking then the current Vantage on which it is based, IMO.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Those Speedsters are lovely; the Aston isn't, I would say.
  • UnivexUnivex
    Posts: 6,709
    mtm wrote: »
    Those Speedsters are lovely; the Aston isn't, I would say.

    Some more:

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,422
    Yeah I saw the Bentley the other day: a bit of another misfire. Curiously it reminds me of an old Firebird or something.

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited March 2020 Posts: 16,422
    Oh look, I by chance found what happened to that DB5 replica: you can hire it for a drive! :D

    https://www.carchaseheroes.com/cars/bond-db5

  • OctopussyOctopussy Piz Gloria, Schilthorn, Switzerland.
    Posts: 1,081
    mtm wrote: »
    Those Speedsters are lovely; the Aston isn't, I would say.

    I don't mind it, but of the 3 its definitely the ugly car of the bunch. The Ferrari SP Monza is one of the most beautiful modern cars ever, IMO.



  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yeah I think I’m the last few years Aston and Ferrari have swapped places in terms of aesthetics: it used to be Aston making the beautiful cars from the 90s or so, but recently Ferrari are making stunners whilst Astons look a lot worse.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    What is a speedster?
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    edited March 2020 Posts: 3,497
    I don't like it that much either, one of the few AM models that gets a "meh" from me.

    Meanwhile, AM is developing their own V6 to replace AMG's V8:

    https://www.carscoops.com/2020/03/aston-martin-set-to-drop-amgs-twin-turbo-v8-for-new-hybridized-v6/
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
    Posts: 8,266
    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah I think I’m the last few years Aston and Ferrari have swapped places in terms of aesthetics: it used to be Aston making the beautiful cars from the 90s or so, but recently Ferrari are making stunners whilst Astons look a lot worse.

    I thoroughly disagree. I admit that the AM's have been more 'outspoken'and less elegant, which I regret, but to say Ferrari's taken over in the aestetics department? If there's one brand of cars that's always been screaming at passers-by it's Ferrari, and I haven't seen that change.

    Allthough I'm not sure about the new Vantage, I do love the DB11. On photo's it's not that impressive, but IRL it works perfectly. Still, I wouldn't mind if they returned to a bit more DB9 class. But everyone here was complaining in those days that 'all AM's looked the same'. Now they've come up with a completely different design and people are complaining about that...

  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    edited March 2020 Posts: 3,497
    A colleague of my mother had this about 35 years ago:

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  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
    Posts: 9,041
    What is it? A pre-iron curtain-opening Skoda...or something? I can tell it is being sold by a German car dealer here, and I'm actually ashamed I can't tell what it is.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    Hehe. It's a Skoda 130. :D
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,422
    CommanderRoss wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah I think I’m the last few years Aston and Ferrari have swapped places in terms of aesthetics: it used to be Aston making the beautiful cars from the 90s or so, but recently Ferrari are making stunners whilst Astons look a lot worse.

    I thoroughly disagree. I admit that the AM's have been more 'outspoken'and less elegant, which I regret, but to say Ferrari's taken over in the aestetics department? If there's one brand of cars that's always been screaming at passers-by it's Ferrari, and I haven't seen that change.

    I’m not saying they’re subtle, but around the time that the LaFerrari came out they showed that they are beautiful. And Astons have lost the beauty. Look at the DBS Superleggera: it’s a mess of bits and pieces.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
    Posts: 8,266
    mtm wrote: »
    CommanderRoss wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah I think I’m the last few years Aston and Ferrari have swapped places in terms of aesthetics: it used to be Aston making the beautiful cars from the 90s or so, but recently Ferrari are making stunners whilst Astons look a lot worse.

    I thoroughly disagree. I admit that the AM's have been more 'outspoken'and less elegant, which I regret, but to say Ferrari's taken over in the aestetics department? If there's one brand of cars that's always been screaming at passers-by it's Ferrari, and I haven't seen that change.

    I’m not saying they’re subtle, but around the time that the LaFerrari came out they showed that they are beautiful. And Astons have lost the beauty. Look at the DBS Superleggera: it’s a mess of bits and pieces.

    Oh I don't find the LaFerrari beautiful at all! I appreciate the technology and what it does, but I'd take a Veyron or anything that came after it over the Ferrari when it comes down to styling. Now the DBS Superleggera is a bit too much for my taste, but I'd call that 'too much Ferrari'. Too wild, too much agression and no elegance left. I don't find it an ugly car though.

    None of them really tick my boxes though, as they're no way GT's. Imagine having to cross 2000 KM in either of them on bendy roads. You'd be shaken and broken within half an hour.
  • OctopussyOctopussy Piz Gloria, Schilthorn, Switzerland.
    Posts: 1,081
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    edited March 2020 Posts: 3,497
    I've always liked the ISO Rivolta:

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  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    Bristol cars is no more. The Bullet never entered production and no news from the company was heard from 2016...until now...

    https://www.autoweek.com/news/luxury/a31280916/rip-bristol-cars-1945-2020/
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,422
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    Bristol cars is no more. The Bullet never entered production and no news from the company was heard from 2016...until now...

    https://www.autoweek.com/news/luxury/a31280916/rip-bristol-cars-1945-2020/

    Oh damn: I liked Bristol. Never actually beautiful, but always with just an air of class about them which made them very cool.
  • UnivexUnivex
    Posts: 6,709
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    I've always liked the ISO Rivolta:

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    Beautiful.
  • Agent_99Agent_99 enjoys a spirited ride as much as the next girl
    Posts: 3,176
    Looks like a fun exhibition at the V&A in London:

    https://www.vam.ac.uk/exhibitions/cars
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