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  • SuperintendentSuperintendent A separate pool. For sharks, no less.
    Posts: 871
    Hannes took Bond and Franz to see Octopussy in the theatre. Bond preferred it to NSNA.
  • DeerAtTheGatesDeerAtTheGates Belgium
    Posts: 524
    If I may bring the discussion back to trailers: I find it interesting that we had one amazing long trailer where everybody expected a shorter teaser, but that's all EON/the 007 socials are using at the moment.

    They keep putting out these montages with text overlays that consist of images from the trailer. They did publicly post that Super Bowl tv spot, but didn't say a word about that Oscars spot yet.
    It's not meant as a complaint, because we're being treated to some great new images in these spots, but it's not the usual promotion they do (seeing as we got just one behind-the-scenes video this time).

    So are we expecting another (final) trailer at the end of this month / beginning of March? Or do we think this is it? And we'll get some more spots and maybe 2 small scenes to promote the film?
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited February 2020 Posts: 5,970
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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,340
    matt_u wrote: »
    NicNac wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    It's a favorite theme EON plays with, and it's from Fleming. I do think they should retire it for the next actor.

    Yeah I completely agree, I think that thread of has run it's course. I was wincing initially when I heard that "the world has moved on" line. I thought we were done with that after Spectre. It just feels odd looking back when Daniel was brought on in 2006 he was a "rookie" 00, gets his license to kill and since Quantum he's been over the hill and no longer relevant. It does become tiring

    I think we have to read his tenure as
    1. He is promoted to 00 status in his mid to late 30s.
    2. '00s have a very short life expectancy' so no one expects many years out of him at this level.
    3. By his mid 40s he has already outlived most 00s and at that age he is already slightly over the hill. So, even if he has only done a couple of useful assignments he is already nearer the end than the beginning when we arrive at SF.
    4. In SP he is back to his best, but retires anyway. As any 00 surely would.

    Bond is 39 in SF, if we assume the film was set in 2012.

    Bond was 12 when Hannes took him, and it was in 1985.

    Whereas the Bond of Casino Royale would have been 44!
    https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/bond_21_007_dossier1.php3
  • ringfire211ringfire211
    Posts: 653
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    If cloning, I assume Safin is speaking theoretically, that having the ability to clone makes Bond redundant, rather than we’ll have a literal clone that Bond has to fight.
    Well no I’m not saying we’ll see Craig actually fighting a version of himself lol (that’s WILD WILD WEST territory for sure - RIP Bob Conrad). But yes the idea of either cloning Bond or even already having a Bond-clone floating in some laboratory water container or asleep in suspended animation or whatever.

  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 4,247
    Speaking of age & for the sake of variety....I wonder if Eon might be thinking of giving us 2 Bonds in a 15yr span. Starting from Bond 26, like casting a 40yr old Bond to star in 3 films....then another 40yr Bond comes and does 3. Although, it seems highly unlikely....but it can only happen if they go back to releasing Bond films every 2yrs or so. Even at that...2 bonds in quick succession, seems unlikely....just a thought though.
  • JG007JG007 Manchester, UK
    Posts: 78
    Any intel on trailer 2’s release?
    We’ll have Billie’s song tomorrow so maybe this will be the start of the major and prominent marketing push now?...
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  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,546
    It feels like we already have a ton of footage from the film, TBH.
  • Tuck91Tuck91
    Posts: 1,680
    We don’t have that much. The tv spots mostly came off the main trailer.

    The trailer itself did not show much in Jamaica and especially Cuba
  • JG007JG007 Manchester, UK
    Posts: 78
    I am on the same page as you both to be fair. It’s more out of curiosity.

    I feel trailer 1 is 30 seconds too long. If we had a 2min trailer 1 then a 2.45min trailer 2 then I feel that will have been better use.

    The 2 tv spots are nice but I’d of preferred a shorter trailer 1, a usual length trailer 2 and still keep the super bowl tv spots as that’s a nice 30sec fresh burst with new stuff.

    Trailer 1 in hindsight is too much, although at the time it felt we where starved of stuff. Some video blogs of bts would have been preferred over the longer than normal teaser, drop the tv spot in the mix with posters and title song and drop a chunky trailer 2 with new stuff a month or so before release, this of course is just my thoughts.

    On another note, I’m looking forward to hearing Billie’ track !!
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  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited February 2020 Posts: 7,546
    Tuck91 wrote: »
    We don’t have that much. The tv spots mostly came off the main trailer.

    The trailer itself did not show much in Jamaica and especially Cuba

    For me there was the first trailer, then the Super Bowl spot, and everything else riffed off the footage from those two. Then the Oscar's spot had a bit of new stuff in the beginning, plus the amazing "Not as long as there are people like you in the world" line, and between all that, we've got a lot.

    I also didn't watch any Spectre trailers before watching the film, so it's probably just culture shock for me. :P
  • Tuck91Tuck91
    Posts: 1,680
    Part of it for me is eon left us with a bit of a cliffhanger for 5 years so I’m dying for something.

    They started the Spectre story and took too long for myself and most to follow it up.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,546
    Tuck91 wrote: »
    Part of it for me is eon left us with a bit of a cliffhanger for 5 years so I’m dying for something.

    They started the Spectre story and took too long for myself and most to follow it up.

    It as been an enormous amount of time, I certainly grant you that.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
    Posts: 2,536
    Saw 'Birds of Prey' today, and the NTTD trailer played during the previews. Then just before the film was about, as the curtains were drawing back the NTTD quad poster was revealed on the screen with the caption 'These curtains are presented by ... NTTD'.

    Did anyone else get that at their screening?
  • BurgessBurgess
    Posts: 380

    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Saw 'Birds of Prey' today, and the NTTD trailer played during the previews. Then just before the film was about, as the curtains were drawing back the NTTD quad poster was revealed on the screen with the caption 'These curtains are presented by ... NTTD'.

    Did anyone else get that at their screening?

    What theater chain?
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
    edited February 2020 Posts: 2,536
    Burgess wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Saw 'Birds of Prey' today, and the NTTD trailer played during the previews. Then just before the film was about, as the curtains were drawing back the NTTD quad poster was revealed on the screen with the caption 'These curtains are presented by ... NTTD'.

    Did anyone else get that at their screening?

    What theater chain?

    Event Cinemas.

    Have never seen that come up before with any other film, at that or any other cinema chain.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    NicNac wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    It's a favorite theme EON plays with, and it's from Fleming. I do think they should retire it for the next actor.

    Yeah I completely agree, I think that thread of has run it's course. I was wincing initially when I heard that "the world has moved on" line. I thought we were done with that after Spectre. It just feels odd looking back when Daniel was brought on in 2006 he was a "rookie" 00, gets his license to kill and since Quantum he's been over the hill and no longer relevant. It does become tiring

    I think we have to read his tenure as
    1. He is promoted to 00 status in his mid to late 30s.
    2. '00s have a very short life expectancy' so no one expects many years out of him at this level.
    3. By his mid 40s he has already outlived most 00s and at that age he is already slightly over the hill. So, even if he has only done a couple of useful assignments he is already nearer the end than the beginning when we arrive at SF.
    4. In SP he is back to his best, but retires anyway. As any 00 surely would.

    Bond is 39 in SF, if we assume the film was set in 2012.

    Bond was 12 when Hannes took him, and it was in 1985.

    1983.

    Yes you're right, it was a 3 not a 5 just checked. Craig's Bond was Born in 1983 not 1985.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    Posts: 3,022
    New footage plus the track



  • DCisaredDCisared Liverpool
    Posts: 1,329
    Contraband wrote: »
    New footage plus the track



    Works so so well with the images. What has Madeleine done!?
  • GatecrasherGatecrasher Classified
    Posts: 265
    Looks like Bond is getting heartbroken and betrayed again: “fool me once, fool me twice...”
  • DCisaredDCisared Liverpool
    edited February 2020 Posts: 1,329
    What if the last scene of Dan’s tenure is of Bond dying in Madeline’s arms mirroring The death of Vesper. Not sure why that popped into my head lol Almost felt like bond looking down on Madeleine swimming was at the end of the film or possibly a dream sequence ( even though it’s probably before mod edit goes down in matera)
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    Posts: 8,179
    matt_u wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    NicNac wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    It's a favorite theme EON plays with, and it's from Fleming. I do think they should retire it for the next actor.

    Yeah I completely agree, I think that thread of has run it's course. I was wincing initially when I heard that "the world has moved on" line. I thought we were done with that after Spectre. It just feels odd looking back when Daniel was brought on in 2006 he was a "rookie" 00, gets his license to kill and since Quantum he's been over the hill and no longer relevant. It does become tiring

    I think we have to read his tenure as
    1. He is promoted to 00 status in his mid to late 30s.
    2. '00s have a very short life expectancy' so no one expects many years out of him at this level.
    3. By his mid 40s he has already outlived most 00s and at that age he is already slightly over the hill. So, even if he has only done a couple of useful assignments he is already nearer the end than the beginning when we arrive at SF.
    4. In SP he is back to his best, but retires anyway. As any 00 surely would.

    Bond is 39 in SF, if we assume the film was set in 2012.

    Bond was 12 when Hannes took him, and it was in 1985.

    1983.

    Yes you're right, it was a 3 not a 5 just checked. Craig's Bond was Born in 1983 not 1985.

    Adopted in '83. If Craig Bond was born in 83 he'd be only 37 now!

    In SP records show Craig Bond was born in 1971, which would mean he'll be pushing 50 in NTTD.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    Posts: 16,149
    Gatecrasher wrote: »
    Looks like Bond is getting heartbroken and betrayed again: “fool me once, fool me twice...”

    I'm pretty tired of seeing Bond whine and moan about lost love.


    I want the bad assery of Sean Connery, the humor of Roger Moore, the coldness of Dalton and the smoothness of Brosnan back.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Gatecrasher wrote: »
    Looks like Bond is getting heartbroken and betrayed again: “fool me once, fool me twice...”

    I'm pretty tired of seeing Bond whine and moan about lost love.


    I want the bad assery of Sean Connery, the humor of Roger Moore, the coldness of Dalton and the smoothness of Brosnan back.

    Go and watch their movies.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    Posts: 16,149
    RC7 wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Gatecrasher wrote: »
    Looks like Bond is getting heartbroken and betrayed again: “fool me once, fool me twice...”

    I'm pretty tired of seeing Bond whine and moan about lost love.


    I want the bad assery of Sean Connery, the humor of Roger Moore, the coldness of Dalton and the smoothness of Brosnan back.

    Go and watch their movies.

    I'll probably have to.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,546
    RC7 wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Gatecrasher wrote: »
    Looks like Bond is getting heartbroken and betrayed again: “fool me once, fool me twice...”

    I'm pretty tired of seeing Bond whine and moan about lost love.


    I want the bad assery of Sean Connery, the humor of Roger Moore, the coldness of Dalton and the smoothness of Brosnan back.

    Go and watch their movies.

    Nailed it.
  • BounineBounine
    edited February 2020 Posts: 2,598
    So, this is the new Bond song? I’m always a little late to the party. :)

  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    Posts: 16,149
    Birdleson wrote: »
    He’s not mocking you guys for your preferences, why do that?

    I think because i unforgivably left out Lazenby. Sorry, George.

    Had he continued, I'm sure he would have, maybe not been over Tracy, but come to terms with it enough to enjoy himself by the middle of his second outing.

    I just want to see Bond enjoy being Bond, especially after a 5 year gap.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Gatecrasher wrote: »
    Looks like Bond is getting heartbroken and betrayed again: “fool me once, fool me twice...”

    I'm pretty tired of seeing Bond whine and moan about lost love.


    I want the bad assery of Sean Connery, the humor of Roger Moore, the coldness of Dalton and the smoothness of Brosnan back.

    Go and watch their movies.

    I'll probably have to.

    You must know by now what you’re getting. I sympathise but not that much.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    Do some of you really think the whole film will be Bond spending the entire runtime distraught about Madeleine's betrayal?

    The Bond-Madeleine relationship will without a doubt be the emotional heart of the film. But this is a Bond film, and you better believe there will be scenes full of Bond badassery and Craig kicking ass as usual.

    The Craig films have always been deeper than any other films in the franchise aside from maybe OHMSS. If you're not expecting emotion or drama then you will end up very disappointed.
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