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All these months on, and I have not once and the itch to re-watch NTTD.
Everyone's a winner.
I'm fine with that. I have few issues with TWINE, and though DAD was a hard film to sit through 20 years ago, I have come to see that amongst the MTV editing, Madonnas techno infused song, juvenile writing and iffy CGI, there is some good in there too.
Accepted. But are you saying you found no redeeming qualities in NTTD at all? I found them to be quite abundant.
I think I'd disagree there: apart from the DB5 chase I think the action is a bit weak in NTTD. The 4x4 chase is extremely nothingy.
Yes I've seen it twice.
No, no. I liked the Matera sequence at the beginning. And I really liked seeing the V8 Vantage in London. Not just because it was the return of my favorite Bond car, but also for the version of the Bond theme used in that sequence.
It's all ominous and sinister to begin with, almost like it's from a John Carpenter film, before it switches to that familiar sound.
Have you honestly only watched it twice?
mtm is such a prolific poster and defender of NTTD here it surprised me that they'd only seen the film twice.
Usually, when a Bond film comes out on DVD, I'd be embarrassed to tell people how many times I'd watch it in the first few months. I'd certainly get weekly viewings in, though NTTD has certainly bucked the trend for that.
There's a Yorkshire saying "tha's properly muckied tha' ticket with me". That's how I feel about the Bond franchise and NTTD.
My opinion hasn't changed on this one since November - a decent entry, but not a patch on CR or even the older classics.
Good point!
Didn't liked those scenes involving Madeleine Swann, the OHMSS references made me a bit uncomfortable, this film didn't deserved it.
Those what I liked still didn't changed, after watching it again.
But those what I didn't liked got worse with each subsequent viewings.
Once in the cinema, once when it came out on Blu. It's such a long film that it's hard to just pop on, and there's not much in there I'm desperate to see again. There aren't any proper Bond sequences in there. It's a decent film but... I've seen it.
Spectre and Skyfall I was always happy to pop on again as they just feel Bondy, there are parts to them I find satisfying and fun.
Not sure why you get that idea: I'm pretty much always saying it's not very Bondy/the action is rubbish etc. It's only the ending that I defend: I think it's a valid artistic decision and it works.
I think objectively it's a perfectly decent film, I can entirely see why people might really enjoy it. But subjectively it's not my favourite because it doesn't hit those notes in a Bond film which I like.
I then saw it at home with my parents and again they thought it was just ok.
My take on it - Really enjoyed the first viewing right up until then end, then the disappointment of seeing Bond die, and not using the end of YOLT, it fell right off a cliff. After that, second and third viewings I started to see flaws that I didn't notice first time round; knowing I wasn't as invested on repeat viewings because of what would happen at the end.
Had NTTD adapted the end of YOLT, my opinion probably would be significantly different to what it is now. Hell, I may even have it in my top 5 ranking.
As it is, I find it the worst Craig film, and one of the poorest Bond films, down there with DAD and AVTAK.
Maybe YOLT still would work as a cliffhanger *if* the same Bond actor is planning to return in the next film and if the period between films is relatively short (say, between Bond 26 and 27)...but there is no way Eon was going to write Craig, who, after all, reinvigorated the franchise after years of tired retreads, out in a bleak, open-ended manner.
Same for me.
Not nearly as downbeat as OHMSS. And Bond gets a triumphant death.
On 2nd viewing, I actually enjoyed the first 1hr and 15mins or so although it was far from great. The 2nd half is a complete mess and probably hated the 2nd half even more than I did at the cinema.
Overall, it's still Craig's worst and the worst Bond film of all for me, 25th of 25. A real shame Craig went out like that.