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I always think too about how exactly Madeleine was going to relay this particular story to a toddler…
“It all begins when Bond flies over to the Swiss alps so he can tell me that your grandfather just ate a gun, and I have a guy with a penchant for shoving steel fingernails into peoples eyes chasing me down. Chapter Two: sex and violence on a train…”
“I’ll only come back if I can be James Bond.”
“…best we can do is give you “Bond, James Bond”.
“Deal.”
Vesper was written as a tough, icey, strong character without her ever having to pick up a gun and I think that's the mistake with Swann's character. They never gave Lea a scene were she could show Madeline as vulnerable and in need of Bond.
Lea is a great actress but I never bought Madeline and Bond in love and I think it comes down to the underdeveloped scripts and a lack of chemistry between the actors
Yeah, I think this would have happened, if they planned Craig's era properly.
Just what I was thinking.
It's not that, she's distant towards Bond.
She barely smiles, she have this very depressing and sad persona and mood.
She's not likeable, she's a bit boring and dull too.
Lea Seydoux was a good actress, but I could also blame her for not doing something with the character, yes, the character was not that good as written, but at some situations, it's the actors'/actresses' performance that elevates them, with Seydoux, she just got into the wave.
Lea Seydoux was really miscast here (she's not that fit to be Bond's main girlfriend), she could have been a great villainess or femme fatale like her role in MI:Ghost Protocol, but they've missed that opportunity and created a lot more worse.
GE: Baccarat with Xenia
TND: Paris Carver Hotel
TWINE: Zuchovsky's Casino
DAD: Cuba... or the ice palace or something, I don't know... feels like a "hotel" film and I don't think there's any gambling
CR: CR
QOS: Teachers on Sabbatical; La Perla de las Dunas
SF: Macau Floating Dragon Casino
SP: Hoffler Clinic (I imagine people stay there); L'Americain
NTTD: ??? This feels more like a "hotel" film (given Matera, at least) than a "casino" film (no gambling whatsoever).
EDIT: Maybe it started with Dalton...
TLD: Hotel from the Fleming-Faithful sniper section of the story
LTK: Casino in Isthmus
That's one of his main traits.
Isn't CR a casino-hotel movie?
Not just Craig's Bond, I just really liked seeing James Bond in casinos.
Him in a Tuxedo, ordering his favorite drink and playing cards.
That's Bond, that's one of the traits that Fleming wrote into the character.
He's the best gambler in MI6! Even Du Pont asked a help from him for his game with Goldfinger in the novel.
That bit from the GF novel would be amazing to see adapted into a film at some point.
There's a few things to do with gambling in the Fleming novels that haven't been fully adapted for the films. The whole set up to MR is another one which is quite an effective way to begin a Bond adventure. I also rather like the bit in the CR novel when Le Chiffre's henchman has the cane gun pointed at Bond's back and no one seems to notice.
I suspect it's something to do with the fact that it's actually quite difficult to make a long, drawn out gambling session come off as tense in a film. CR was quite effective at it, but even that had to resort to Mathis whispering what was going on to Vesper at times (rather loudly I might add).
To be honest, watching it in TV (the poker scenes) bored me a bit, because I just don't understand it.
Unlike when I'm watching Baccarat in the classic films, it's exciting and looked cool.
I suppose a loose version of it was done in OP with Khan cheating at the dice game. It's obviously shortened and the game is changed to make it easier to follow for the audience.
But yes, it's tricky making those scenes work. I'm not a gambler myself and have no idea (and I must admit do not care) what's going on during the actual game in the casino scenes of GE and DN. What makes those scenes work are the interactions between Bond and the women across the table. Perhaps if gambling is included in the next film it'll simply be for the purpose of Bond interacting with important characters?
Not really, if they took a leaf from the 1973 Redford/Newman film The Sting. There is an excellent card game cheat scene which plays out brilliantly on screen.
Good point. OP does a really good job of showing Bond using the villain's cheating against him...and dice are a lot more cinematic than bridge.
It's certainly something that Fleming would readily understand from his club days but it would be harder to make cinematic.
If people were annoyed by Mathis' explaining of poker in CR, imagine what they would need to do with bridge in MR. "Dummy hand" and all that.
Plus the recurring word "trump" would probably take a lot of people out of the movie.
Honestly, I have a hard time seeing how they would have a bridge game in a Bond film.