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Exactly.
...the L'Américain scene...up until the train bit...and the Rolls...
Oh my, ... I think I prefer it to anything in NTTD.
And I didn't like SP much. But I think that was down to the music and most of the cinematography. The brother gate just doesn't bother me as before. I wonder why?...
Well, it would be fruitless to point it out you haven't noticed anything else. But only a couple pages ago someone complained about the Jack London quote that was used in the film and in Ian Fleming's You Only Live Twice, because they felt they had a better idea that would be more in line with Ian Fleming's Bond, because they didn't know very much about Ian Fleming or his work.
I meant that in a general way. Many fans tend to think Fleming is really dark and gritty and superserious. It is not. They think Bond in CR06 is Fleming's Bond. They don't recognize Fleming when they see references.
Oh man, you nailed it. :))
But seriously, there are loads of people around here who think only two good Bond films have come out in the last 30 years. People who love plots about hypnotized babes with chicken allergies complaining about silly elements in the new films. People who are clearly unfamiliar with Fleming who would certainly hate his ideas if they thought they came from Purvis and Wade. These people are indeed fans, but as a guy who thinks Michael and Barbara have done a great job, and who loves Spectre and Die Another Day, their moaning does not put me off a film.
I--honestly--sympathize with them of course. I wouldn't be a happy camper if I hated 60% of the movies released since Dalton left. I do get the frustration.
"It isn't the sleekest or most daring 007 adventure, but No Time to Die concludes Daniel Craig's franchise tenure in satisfying style"
Not the most daring? Holly crap you wonder if they've actually seen it, You mean apart from killing Bond, Leiter, Blofeld & he's got a kid. Whisky-Tango-Foxtrot
For a more 'fun' and less personal Bond movie it would have been great to have her as the main bond girl though.
The part that nearly got me was when Bond was telling Q: “Its alright. It’s alright.”
Lol I totally forgot about that part. That was pretty dumb when he just let her wander off on her own. Why even take her in the first place I wondered hahaha
I was too in the moment, thought it seemed a touch silly, but as the ending progressed I actually came to think it was him scheming to bring Bond down in the end. He has to spend time rescuing his daughter, sending her and Madeleine to safety, and THEN open the blast doors. All the meanwhile, Safin can either complete the handoff of the weapons, or he can have his confrontation with Bond and force him into an impossible situation. No matter what happens, Safin either completes his plan or has a decent chance to ruin Bond.
Just wish bond had escaped holding a weather balloon 😕. Also think safin could have died in a more ironic way. Maybe dying via his own weapon….
Had NTTD given us not just the garden of death, but then Bond escaping the island with amnesia, not knowing anymore who he is, or that he has a child, and sailing off to Russia because it sounds familiar to him - then yes. I would call NTTD having some Fleming material.
And oh boy would that ending have been more satisfying than the one they gave us instead. It would still be a tragic ending, but they wouldn't be going for a cheap shock tactic to keep the Marvel fans happy.
Actually just to add to this, this is one of the between-the-lines details that made me REALLY enjoy Safin, and why I think his reputation as a Bond villain will improve with time.
It was a nice bookend to killing Dryden's contact in the bathroom (and killing Dryden himself, for that matter).
Exactly how I feel. Devastated. I loved the Daniel Craig era. But to kill his Bond off like that in his final film is like a betrayal to the fans, old and new, who supported the franchise during Craig's tenure as Bond. Right now I'm still contemplating to even watch it again. Maybe I'll leave before the explosion takes him out. Urggh that scene is just too painful to relive again.
That’s what worries me. If I see the film, how is it going to affect my enjoyment of the other 4 Craig films? It already has, really.
Just shows that Fleming should have been left to write books, and leave the filmmakers to make films. He wasn't impressed with Connery either when he was first chosen, so I don't take everything Fleming ever said as gospel.
I would urge anyone to take in more viewings. I felt like you right up until seeing it for the second time but Im really coming round to thinking it's a poetic finale to Craig's Bond. As dark as everything he, Madeline and Mathilde have been through, I think it's true to this interpretation of Bond. Even if it's not the path I would have chosen.
So NTTD did redeem SP after all ;)
Thanks for this. B-)
Exactly how I feel. Devastated. I loved the Daniel Craig era. But to kill his Bond off like that in his final film is like a betrayal to the fans, old and new, who supported the franchise during Craig's tenure as Bond. Right now I'm still contemplating to even watch it again. Maybe I'll leave before the explosion takes him out. Urggh that scene is just too painful to relive again. [/quote]
I would urge anyone to take in more viewings. I felt like you right up until seeing it for the second time but Im really coming round to thinking it's a poetic finale to Craig's Bond. As dark as everything he, Madeline and Mathilde have been through, I think it's true to this interpretation of Bond. Even if it's not the path I would have chosen.[/quote]
I’m not sure I could go through it again. I did love the first two hours but knowing what happens and in particular Bond seemingly just giving up makes it very difficult to consider watching again.
On a separate note I wonder how this will impact future sales. I have every Bond on VHS and DVD. I can’t see me buying this. On a personal note I was hoping to purchase the Bond Omega Seamaster from this film but I really don’t want to wear the watch that Bond died wearing
Sorry to have sounded salty. But I mean, imagine you're writing these movies, the fans want Fleming, you put in Fleming, the fans don't recognize it and suggest you should have put some Fleming in instead. You'd start banging your head against the wall. It was just about fan demands and whether they know what they want.
In a way. Just not the way I was expecting ;)
So yes, I do feel this is a great Bond film and I'm very happy, as one of the oldest fans here, that we have all of Daniel Craig's movies as part of the canon now. What an excellent film to end his era. So glad he did not end it with Spectre.
I am also not concerned about the next Bond film. They will start fresh, different direction, and I'm confident the series will continue. It is interesting reading so many reactions - hardly anybody bored by it or on the fence, so to speak. I'm firmly positive about this film. It is in my top 5 of all time for now, will probably stay in the top 10 for sure. And I'm happy with the box office stats at the moment. I hope it does great worldwide. Cheers! B-)