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A so called expert was on UK Channel 4 news and compared coronavirus to the second world war. That war killed around 60 - 80 million people. The number of CR victims in the UK currently stands at 35 and world wide 6,600. To compare cr with the second world war shows you how hysteria has taken hold. We are living in crazy time where every negative news story is wildly exaggerated. Last year the news feeds were full of stories about impending world war three. No joke, many news agencies ran stories about war with China, North Korea, Russia. The current news reporting on cornavirus is identical to the fake news WW3 items from last year. Evidence:
We live in dark times where news - fake or not - is exaggerated. The coronavirus is not a serious epidemic because the numbers are too low to warrant such a term. That's fact based on the stats. But the media want it to be an awful virus because they get more clicks, more readers, more viewers. Basically this virus is awful but the world we actually live in is worse! Full of people wanting to make the cr much worse than it is! Very few people can accept this.
A very funny movie. And don't forget Ann Margret, who should have been a Bond Girl, but became a Helm Girl instead.
You're obviously not understanding what is going on, here. The TV commentator aside, this is not being exaggerated. Please take a look at what happened to Italy when they did what you are doing right now: shrugging this off.
COVID-19 would NOT be a serious matter if it weren't as contagious as it is--much more contagious than flu. And it would not be so dangerous if every nation had all of the ICU beds and respirators it needed--but it doesn't.
Here in the U.S., we have about 100,000 ICU beds available at any one time, even fewer respirators. If COVID-19 spreads like crazy, and by all estimates 20% of those infected need to be in the ICU, that is a serious situation.
RIGHT NOW the health care system is NOT strained, and that is why the mortality rate is so low. If/when the need for ICU beds exceeds availability, we could be looking at 5-6% mortality rate.
Olga Kurylenko has it: https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/entertainment/olga-kurylenko-coronavirus/index.html
Still, one good thing : I don't need to pay for my bus ticket anymore : the driver is separated from his passengers by a barrier (tape and a placard), and said passengers have to enter the bus by the rear door.
But it cannot keep politics out completely; that is such a key part of this.
By the way, I just read that Idris Elba has tested positive for the virus. We will hear more and more public figures being positive for this virus, I'm sure.
I'll just drop by to read a bit now and then. Yes, social distancing and proactive measures by local govts are important.
I would self isolate if I could, but I cannot yet. I did quit one job, but I'm staying with my main job for now .. though I hope it shuts soon. I personally am well suited to stay at home, and I also live with two friends. So I wouldn't be without social interaction. The problem with that is if one of us gets the virus, we all get it - and I'm not quite 65 yrs old, and my friends are older than me. We are in a very vulnerable category.
Good luck to all of us. I'm hoping and praying a genuinely safe and effective vaccine is produced in less than a year. I realize it would normally take longer. I appreciate that so many researchers/scientists are fervently working round the clock to make this a priority.
Meanwhile, I try to enjoy each day, ordered more books and dvds from Amazon (that will help keep my spirits up), crank my music, and have rediscovered the joy of much lathered soap on my hands (I time out at well over 30 seconds) several times a day. :)
And @DarthDimi, that is very good news to hear. It's an encouraging development. Anything to stop the dangerous consequences of this virus; vaccine or otherwise.
Very mixed messages
I'm reading more and more relatively hopeful bits of news. It's probably not for next week or even next month, but the sooner, the better. Who knows, with an ounce of luck, ... It's not impossible, for sure. The right molecule can be found today, tomorrow, ... After that, it's technically just a matter of mass producing the stuff. And then we can only hope that everybody who needs it, will have access to it.
They say it still won't be out for at least a year if it was mass produced it's not that easy as you and I would think and I'm not being debbie downer. I'm just going off of what I hear from professionals including this guy on the radio today. Micheal Osterholm is an expert with alot of experience on diseases he has done it all it's worth listening to him if you haven't. He might scare you though here is him with the news.
Ohhh not at all, I could tell exactly what he's on about. Basically, they're backtracking on their initial plan, after the backlash and other experts saying it's a terrible idea. But of course, he can't enforce a lockdown. Because then his rich mates in the insurance companies will have to compensate businesses. So instead, he's "suggesting" they close, encouraging people to stay home, while not enforcing it. Nobody will go anywhere, why would you, but it means that all of the financial burden will be on the individuals. Small businesses will suffer greatly but at least his donors won't have to pay up.
If I felt at all optimistic about the British public I'd say this would be the end of him but y'know what, I reckon he's going to come out of this a hero. The death toll will probably be higher than it otherwise would have done, thanks to his initial reluctance to act. A recession has always been all but guaranteed, but now thanks to putting off a lockdown businesses will suffer even more. But he'll still in the end be seen as the Churchill esque figure getting us through it. Summoning up our British Bulldog Blitz spirit and all that sentimental bollocks.
To be honest I'm with @4EverBonded. I don't see how we can keep politics out of it when a lot of what's going to happen is being determined by how governments respond. And my government are being their usual vile Tory selves, so I'm pretty angry about it.
This really is going to expose all the flaws in Tory Britain imo. The underfunded NHS will struggle. The people in poverty thanks to austerity will suffer even more. The dog eat dog capitalist mantra of the last decade will result in businesses going bust. Private hospitals are actually charging our NHS millions to rent them out. In Spain, they've requisitioned them. But we can't have anything like that in Tory Britain can we. And our statutory sickpay is a joke.
But nothing will change. That's the sad part, there's 0 hope in my opinion. The wealthy elites will thrive as they always do. The rest of us plebs will suffer. And then they'll convince us to elect them again. I don't recognise the country I grew up in sometimes. I remember a time when there was at least solidarity amongst the working class. But now? We've become a nation of subservient peasants. On social media there's tons of comments blaming the businesses for staying open to keep their livelihoods. Not the government backing them into a corner and forcing them to. Because of course the Tories can do no wrong can they. They're on our side, even though history has shown time and time again that they never, ever are.
This country has been a joke for the last few years, and thanks to that this virus is going to hit us hard. We'll get through it. We just need to keep calm and help eachother. But I think the predictable lack of help being afforded to us by our callous Tory government is going to mean it costs us more than it could have done under different circumstances.
Delete this if you want mods but I do think politics play a large role in this, and I needed to get that off my chest.
Sadly when it comes to such things, politics, religion etc, it has been proven time and again that it doesn’t work.
As I’ve said before. We can have a discussion about a global pandemic without politics entering into it.
We strongly believe that while this community is a James Bond fan community in the first place, there's also a valuable social dimension involved, which means that we can
- Feed each other information, because information is a powerful tool in fighting anything;
- We must, at all times, keep each other's kung-fu strong by maintaining an optimistic, courageous and very friendly attitude;
- Just talk and talk some more, because many of us will be virtually locked up in our houses for many weeks on end, and a friendly voice, even if coming from the other side of the globe, is always a welcome one.
So let's not waste this thread on political cockfights. That's what @Benny is saying.What if coronavirus remains active, never goes away? Flu has never been eradicated, kills around 50 - 60 thousand people per year even with vaccines. Are we all going to remain in near permanent lock down, not going out much? That would be crazy.
I think the governments of the world, WHO and other health authorties may have created an even bigger problem than cr! If the virus is still active in November what happens to all the delayed films? What happens to all the service industries that have had suffered during the spring and summer months? What happens to the airline industry, to the share prices of major corps? What happens to all the jobs that have been put on hold, all the salaries, all the people that need to keep working to pay their rent and mortgage?
We're all playing with major fire here if the virus is not contained or in reverse after summer. At some point the travel bans will have to be lifted with or without coronavirus because the world economy cannot operate under such strict restrictions. For example, you can't expect Italians to remain under curfew for months. The reaction to coronavirus - even if it's well-intentioned - may turn out to be a catastrophic mistake. It might be better to leave cr alone, some people will die but others will be immune to it. Long term that makes more sense than the world economy collapsing due to crazy restrictions. People die from the flu - there is no world panic. We may have to adopt the same mindset with cornavirus if there is no dramatic fall in cases and no feasible vaccine.
The best way forward is to drop all restrictions and invest in huge scanning machines at all airports, seaports and any other areas of entry. Every person entering a country has to have a cr scan and if they get the negative result they have to be put in self isolation. That makes more sense than long term travel bans and other restrictions.
You cannot allow the service sector of a country to collapse. It will be catastrophic for hundreds or millions of people, their jobs, their mortgages/rent, their child care the list goes on and on. We live in a capitalist world. If you break that system you're screwed. We're playing with fire, folks. Forget coronavirus, the world economy might be at even greater risk. Hopefully this scenario won't happen but it's possible. Just pointing this out. I try to be brutally honest rather than just say what's politically correct. We all want the virus to end asap but we have to think of the longer term ramifications.
this is true and scary
Panicking is not an option. Saving lives is more important than saving businesses. "Some people will die" should NOT be an option. There are thousands of young and middle aged people in our society with asthma and other diseases that are put at an unnecessary risk of dying from Covid-19. Without very severe restrictions, ICUs are full and they will be left alone without medical treatment.
Where is the logic in dropping all restrictions? Scanning machines require a reliable quick-test, yet current quick tests (testing a blood drop from a finger tip) only are 33% reliable, i.e. 66% of people testing negative may still be sick. The reliable tests require a PCR protocol in a lab and take 24-48 hours. Virus spread is much faster than such an implementation, so the only option really is to shut down contact between people. Covid-19 has an estimated lethality of 1% if you get medical attention, or 6% if not. Letting the virus go on a rampage means in a few weeks hospital staff will have some tough choices of whom they still can take care of, and this will be the 6% scenario. You want to kill off 6% of your friends and family? In a global recession, many will suffer financially, but at least they are alive.
People queuing for toilet roll at a newly opened UK supermarket (according to The Daily Mail - the world's most honest newspaper - lol).
I don't know if that is funny, sad, serious, bizarre. Kinda hard to know what reaction to have! :-O
Same here. I've been using the time to catch up on my Netflix Watch List back log. A Bondathon is surely next!
https://www.newsarama.com/49456-marvel-studios-black-widow-postponed-indefinitely-due-to-coronavirus-pandemic.html
That's the fourth one now, after NTTD, Mulan and The New Mutants.
Theatres are going to be closed 6-8 weeks minimum. No theatre-> no movie..unless..
https://www.cbr.com/coronavirus-morbius-jared-leto-just-found-out-about-pandemic/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/16/no-news-is-good-news-big-brother-germany-cut-off-from-covid-19