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  • DwayneDwayne New York City
    Posts: 2,838
    ‘That’s Ridiculous.’ How America’s Coronavirus Response Looks Abroad.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/27/opinion/covid-19-global-response.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

    The Trump administration’s slow and haphazard response has been widely criticized. But what does it look like to young people around the world, whose governments moved quickly and aggressively to contain the coronavirus?

    We wanted to know, so we reached out to quite a few and showed them charts, facts, photos and videos illustrating the U.S. response. Spoiler: They were not impressed.


    U.S.A! U.S.A!....U.S.A!
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
    edited July 2020 Posts: 2,516
    Dwayne wrote: »
    ‘That’s Ridiculous.’ How America’s Coronavirus Response Looks Abroad.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/27/opinion/covid-19-global-response.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

    The Trump administration’s slow and haphazard response has been widely criticized. But what does it look like to young people around the world, whose governments moved quickly and aggressively to contain the coronavirus?

    We wanted to know, so we reached out to quite a few and showed them charts, facts, photos and videos illustrating the U.S. response. Spoiler: They were not impressed.


    U.S.A! U.S.A!....U.S.A!

    I blame the health officials who advise governments for not containing the coronavirus.
    Especially the WHO.

    "WHO's primary role is to direct international health within the United Nations' system and to lead partners in global health responses."
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
    Posts: 8,247
    Dwayne wrote: »
    ‘That’s Ridiculous.’ How America’s Coronavirus Response Looks Abroad.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/27/opinion/covid-19-global-response.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

    The Trump administration’s slow and haphazard response has been widely criticized. But what does it look like to young people around the world, whose governments moved quickly and aggressively to contain the coronavirus?

    We wanted to know, so we reached out to quite a few and showed them charts, facts, photos and videos illustrating the U.S. response. Spoiler: They were not impressed.


    U.S.A! U.S.A!....U.S.A!

    I blame the health officials who advise governments for not containing the coronavirus.
    Especially the WHO.

    "WHO's primary role is to direct international health within the United Nations' system and to lead partners in global health responses."

    That's what they're doing, but it's to the local governments to act and follow guidelines. If they don't there's little the WHO can do. The've send doctors in january to China to help research the virus, they've asked governments to implement lockdowns, etc. But as long as your (or ours as well, over here the politicians advice the use mouthcovers (like the WHO) whilst the national health institute is saying the opposite on the basis of literature study) government goes its own way there's little the WHO can do. What certainly doesn't help is to defund the WHO because you don't like the advice given....
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,713
    Yesterday, the USA recorded 1,221 new deaths, the biggest single day increase since May 29th.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,713
    Japan has recorded 1,133 Coronavirus infections nationwide, their highest single day total. This is Japan's first day above 1,000 daily cases since the global pandemic began.

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/07/29/national/japan-coronavirus-cases-wednesday/
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    On a slightly more postive note, Researchers have discovered the possible effects of a drug for Rheumatoid Arthritis that could be used to positive effect against Covid 19. But we are still in a very hazardous place with this horrible pandemic!
  • Posts: 18
    Gentlemen and Women: Lest we forget…in On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Fleming introduced us to Bio-warfare - conducted at the time the enemy-du-jour, Russia/SPECTRE and Ernst Stavro Blofeld. Recall that the virus was introduced to the UK through the hypnotized women with vials of a virus to affect various domestic animals and crops - thereby crashing the UK system and causing chaos throughout the land. And, more ironically, the name of the working group formed by the Secret Service and Government to remove Blofeld and stop the bio-warfare attack was "Operation Corona." Read the chapters: Fancy Cover for the Operation Corona reference, the last bit of 'M en Pantoufles, 'The Man From AG. and Fish, and Something Called 'BW' - fascinating how Life Imitates Art!
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,789
    JohnDrake wrote: »
    Gentlemen and Women: Lest we forget…in On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Fleming introduced us to Bio-warfare - conducted at the time the enemy-du-jour, Russia/SPECTRE and Ernst Stavro Blofeld. Recall that the virus was introduced to the UK through the hypnotized women with vials of a virus to affect various domestic animals and crops - thereby crashing the UK system and causing chaos throughout the land. And, more ironically, the name of the working group formed by the Secret Service and Government to remove Blofeld and stop the bio-warfare attack was "Operation Corona." Read the chapters: Fancy Cover for the Operation Corona reference, the last bit of 'M en Pantoufles, 'The Man From AG. and Fish, and Something Called 'BW' - fascinating how Life Imitates Art!

    Wow.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Illuminating.
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  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 2020 Posts: 15,713
    The US death-rate is continuing to rise: yesterday they recorded 1,485 daily deaths, the highest single day rise since May 27th. At this rate, the US will reach the dark milestone of 200,000 deaths by late August.

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    Brazil records its biggest single day increase with 69,074 new cases on July 29th.
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
    edited July 2020 Posts: 2,516
    Dwayne wrote: »
    ‘That’s Ridiculous.’ How America’s Coronavirus Response Looks Abroad.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/27/opinion/covid-19-global-response.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

    The Trump administration’s slow and haphazard response has been widely criticized. But what does it look like to young people around the world, whose governments moved quickly and aggressively to contain the coronavirus?

    We wanted to know, so we reached out to quite a few and showed them charts, facts, photos and videos illustrating the U.S. response. Spoiler: They were not impressed.


    U.S.A! U.S.A!....U.S.A!

    I blame the health officials who advise governments for not containing the coronavirus.
    Especially the WHO.

    "WHO's primary role is to direct international health within the United Nations' system and to lead partners in global health responses."

    That's what they're doing, but it's to the local governments to act and follow guidelines. If they don't there's little the WHO can do. The've send doctors in january to China to help research the virus, they've asked governments to implement lockdowns, etc. But as long as your (or ours as well, over here the politicians advice the use mouthcovers (like the WHO) whilst the national health institute is saying the opposite on the basis of literature study) government goes its own way there's little the WHO can do. What certainly doesn't help is to defund the WHO because you don't like the advice given....

    The WHO,united nations,governments,health officials are all to blame and should be punished in some way for their incompetance after some form of inquiry finds out what really happened.

    The incompetant chinese government is probably at the top of that list ?????

    I have never voted for anybody when the elections happen because i think most of them as overpaid useless public servants.






  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,161
    Dwayne wrote: »
    ‘That’s Ridiculous.’ How America’s Coronavirus Response Looks Abroad.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/27/opinion/covid-19-global-response.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

    The Trump administration’s slow and haphazard response has been widely criticized. But what does it look like to young people around the world, whose governments moved quickly and aggressively to contain the coronavirus?

    We wanted to know, so we reached out to quite a few and showed them charts, facts, photos and videos illustrating the U.S. response. Spoiler: They were not impressed.


    U.S.A! U.S.A!....U.S.A!

    I blame the health officials who advise governments for not containing the coronavirus.
    Especially the WHO.

    "WHO's primary role is to direct international health within the United Nations' system and to lead partners in global health responses."

    That's what they're doing, but it's to the local governments to act and follow guidelines. If they don't there's little the WHO can do. The've send doctors in january to China to help research the virus, they've asked governments to implement lockdowns, etc. But as long as your (or ours as well, over here the politicians advice the use mouthcovers (like the WHO) whilst the national health institute is saying the opposite on the basis of literature study) government goes its own way there's little the WHO can do. What certainly doesn't help is to defund the WHO because you don't like the advice given....

    The WHO,united nations,governments,health officials are all to blame and should be punished in some way for their incompetance after some form of inquiry finds out what really happened.

    The incompetant chinese government is probably at the top of that list ?????


    @007InAction
    I wouldn't be so eager to punish the various institutes and officials you mentioned there, with the exception perhaps of governments. The WHO and many experts were dealing with a virus of which they had yet to discover so much more before realizing it wasn't just another seasonal flu, but a highly contagious and more lethal bug than initially thought. They have, however, been updating their advice and knowledge since. With every new finding, they report on it. They conduct science the way science is to be conducted: transparently, self-correcting and cautiously.

    If you DO want to blame someone and seek some sort of retribution, some politicians might be good for a start. But above all, let's just blame our fellow man. Blame those who have consistently refused to engage in social distancing, to wear masks in public, to stay home and not go to parties, festivals or abroad for a vacation. Blame those who have from day 1 been treating this as a liberal hoax, as a mass hysteria, as a joke; who did get together for Spring Break, who did rally together for a protest, who "mingled" without the proper safety precautions. The Chinese government? Whatever sort of blame the future may put on the Chinese, it has for many months been up to us now. We are spreading this thing because even the simplest of safety and hygiene principles seem too daunting for some stupid pub & party folks.

    And, of course, it doesn't help that America decided to put a whithered Ralph Wiggum in office, a senile senior citizen who lies about the truth and then lies about the lies, and who first had to see tens of thousands die before considering taking the epidemic seriously--and then tens of thousands more before considering wearing a mask in public. In fact, blame those who felt that it was somehow a good idea to vote for a low-IQ septuagenarian who is just standing there making stuff up like the mentally challenged kid in school. Blame those who follow in his footsteps and treat mouth masks as "unpatriotic". I wonder what they will say when this is over. "We didn't know?"
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
    edited July 2020 Posts: 2,516
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Dwayne wrote: »
    ‘That’s Ridiculous.’ How America’s Coronavirus Response Looks Abroad.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/27/opinion/covid-19-global-response.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

    The Trump administration’s slow and haphazard response has been widely criticized. But what does it look like to young people around the world, whose governments moved quickly and aggressively to contain the coronavirus?

    We wanted to know, so we reached out to quite a few and showed them charts, facts, photos and videos illustrating the U.S. response. Spoiler: They were not impressed.


    U.S.A! U.S.A!....U.S.A!

    I blame the health officials who advise governments for not containing the coronavirus.
    Especially the WHO.

    "WHO's primary role is to direct international health within the United Nations' system and to lead partners in global health responses."

    That's what they're doing, but it's to the local governments to act and follow guidelines. If they don't there's little the WHO can do. The've send doctors in january to China to help research the virus, they've asked governments to implement lockdowns, etc. But as long as your (or ours as well, over here the politicians advice the use mouthcovers (like the WHO) whilst the national health institute is saying the opposite on the basis of literature study) government goes its own way there's little the WHO can do. What certainly doesn't help is to defund the WHO because you don't like the advice given....

    The WHO,united nations,governments,health officials are all to blame and should be punished in some way for their incompetance after some form of inquiry finds out what really happened.

    The incompetant chinese government is probably at the top of that list ?????


    @007InAction
    I wouldn't be so eager to punish the various institutes and officials you mentioned there, with the exception perhaps of governments. The WHO and many experts were dealing with a virus of which they had yet to discover so much more before realizing it wasn't just another seasonal flu, but a highly contagious and more lethal bug than initially thought. They have, however, been updating their advice and knowledge since. With every new finding, they report on it. They conduct science the way science is to be conducted: transparently, self-correcting and cautiously.

    If you DO want to blame someone and seek some sort of retribution, some politicians might be good for a start. But above all, let's just blame our fellow man. Blame those who have consistently refused to engage in social distancing, to wear masks in public, to stay home and not go to parties, festivals or abroad for a vacation. Blame those who have from day 1 been treating this as a liberal hoax, as a mass hysteria, as a joke; who did get together for Spring Break, who did rally together for a protest, who "mingled" without the proper safety precautions. The Chinese government? Whatever sort of blame the future may put on the Chinese, it has for many months been up to us now. We are spreading this thing because even the simplest of safety and hygiene principles seem too daunting for some stupid pub & party folks.

    And, of course, it doesn't help that America decided to put a whithered Ralph Wiggum in office, a senile senior citizen who lies about the truth and then lies about the lies, and who first had to see tens of thousands die before considering taking the epidemic seriously--and then tens of thousands more before considering wearing a mask in public. In fact, blame those who felt that it was somehow a good idea to vote for a low-IQ septuagenarian who is just standing there making stuff up like the mentally challenged kid in school. Blame those who follow in his footsteps and treat mouth masks as "unpatriotic". I wonder what they will say when this is over. "We didn't know?"

    I can't give the WHO,the so called experts, any credit for anything because i am not aware of anything they have done to help stop or prevent the spread of the virus.
    They seem like lazy public servants to me........

    America didn't vote in the President of course,just over half the voters.
    The other americans didn't vote or voted against him.

    Like i said i have never voted for anyone in elections because i think the political system is a shambles.

    Of course i also blame those who have help spread the virus, as you have mentioned

  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    In Norway, the government has set up a commission to investigate the government s coronavirus response. They want the report to be classified for the next hundred years.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    In Norway, the government has set up a commission to investigate the government s coronavirus response. They want the report to be classified for the next hundred years.

    Same in Italy, both the central government and the Lombardy government are under investigation. The main topic is the late response to the emergency in the city of Bergamo that basically doomed the Lombardy region to catastrophic numbers in the first phase. We’ll see.
  • Herman Cain has passed ... from COVID-19. I believe he attended Trump's Tulsa rally unmasked. Irony ... or just the obvious result of foolish choices? You decide...
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited July 2020 Posts: 40,960
    It's almost as if foregoing a mask in a crowded indoor rally during a pandemic while you're in your mid-70s is a bad thing.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
    Posts: 8,247
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Dwayne wrote: »
    ‘That’s Ridiculous.’ How America’s Coronavirus Response Looks Abroad.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/27/opinion/covid-19-global-response.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

    The Trump administration’s slow and haphazard response has been widely criticized. But what does it look like to young people around the world, whose governments moved quickly and aggressively to contain the coronavirus?

    We wanted to know, so we reached out to quite a few and showed them charts, facts, photos and videos illustrating the U.S. response. Spoiler: They were not impressed.


    U.S.A! U.S.A!....U.S.A!

    I blame the health officials who advise governments for not containing the coronavirus.
    Especially the WHO.

    "WHO's primary role is to direct international health within the United Nations' system and to lead partners in global health responses."

    That's what they're doing, but it's to the local governments to act and follow guidelines. If they don't there's little the WHO can do. The've send doctors in january to China to help research the virus, they've asked governments to implement lockdowns, etc. But as long as your (or ours as well, over here the politicians advice the use mouthcovers (like the WHO) whilst the national health institute is saying the opposite on the basis of literature study) government goes its own way there's little the WHO can do. What certainly doesn't help is to defund the WHO because you don't like the advice given....

    The WHO,united nations,governments,health officials are all to blame and should be punished in some way for their incompetance after some form of inquiry finds out what really happened.

    The incompetant chinese government is probably at the top of that list ?????


    @007InAction
    I wouldn't be so eager to punish the various institutes and officials you mentioned there, with the exception perhaps of governments. The WHO and many experts were dealing with a virus of which they had yet to discover so much more before realizing it wasn't just another seasonal flu, but a highly contagious and more lethal bug than initially thought. They have, however, been updating their advice and knowledge since. With every new finding, they report on it. They conduct science the way science is to be conducted: transparently, self-correcting and cautiously.

    If you DO want to blame someone and seek some sort of retribution, some politicians might be good for a start. But above all, let's just blame our fellow man. Blame those who have consistently refused to engage in social distancing, to wear masks in public, to stay home and not go to parties, festivals or abroad for a vacation. Blame those who have from day 1 been treating this as a liberal hoax, as a mass hysteria, as a joke; who did get together for Spring Break, who did rally together for a protest, who "mingled" without the proper safety precautions. The Chinese government? Whatever sort of blame the future may put on the Chinese, it has for many months been up to us now. We are spreading this thing because even the simplest of safety and hygiene principles seem too daunting for some stupid pub & party folks.

    And, of course, it doesn't help that America decided to put a whithered Ralph Wiggum in office, a senile senior citizen who lies about the truth and then lies about the lies, and who first had to see tens of thousands die before considering taking the epidemic seriously--and then tens of thousands more before considering wearing a mask in public. In fact, blame those who felt that it was somehow a good idea to vote for a low-IQ septuagenarian who is just standing there making stuff up like the mentally challenged kid in school. Blame those who follow in his footsteps and treat mouth masks as "unpatriotic". I wonder what they will say when this is over. "We didn't know?"

    I can't give the WHO,the so called experts, any credit for anything because i am not aware of anything they have done to help stop or prevent the spread of the virus.
    They seem like lazy public servants to me........

    America didn't vote in the President of course,just over half the voters.
    The other americans didn't vote or voted against him.

    Like i said i have never voted for anyone in elections because i think the political system is a shambles.

    Of course i also blame those who have help spread the virus, as you have mentioned

    You're free to dive into the history of how this all went down, ad see what the WHO and UN have done to prevent the spread. I think, personally, you'll find it's far more than what's been reported in the most common news outlets. For them, after all, it's more important to follow Harry and Meghan's every step than to report on boring bureaucrats.

    As a former public servant, and current consultant I can tell you first had why we as the public see them as lazy, and why in fact they're not, but it'll always seem like it, but that's perhaps for another time and place. What I will tell you is that if you don't vote, you're just as responsible for the end result as those who voted for said candidate. That's how democracy works, as much as the US system is in shambles and I can understand why you'd feel resentment against voting (and I'm certainly not promoting the opposite party in the Us' last election).
    Only by voting against a candidate you don't condone the end result, not by not voting.

    And, in the end, if you find the system a shambles, vote for someone who wants to change the system. i.e. somebody like Alexandra Occasio-Cortes. The person might not win, but at least you did what you could.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,960
    George Carlin always said it best for me on voting versus not voting:

  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
    edited July 2020 Posts: 2,516

    You're free to dive into the history of how this all went down, ad see what the WHO and UN have done to prevent the spread. I think, personally, you'll find it's far more than what's been reported in the most common news outlets. For them, after all, it's more important to follow Harry and Meghan's every step than to report on boring bureaucrats.

    As a former public servant, and current consultant I can tell you first had why we as the public see them as lazy, and why in fact they're not, but it'll always seem like it, but that's perhaps for another time and place. What I will tell you is that if you don't vote, you're just as responsible for the end result as those who voted for said candidate. That's how democracy works, as much as the US system is in shambles and I can understand why you'd feel resentment against voting (and I'm certainly not promoting the opposite party in the Us' last election).
    Only by voting against a candidate you don't condone the end result, not by not voting.

    And, in the end, if you find the system a shambles, vote for someone who wants to change the system. i.e. somebody like Alexandra Occasio-Cortes. The person might not win, but at least you did what you could.

    If everyone didn't vote or fill in the electorial vote empty like i do, because in australia you have to vote or get fined, that will send a pretty strong message to everyone about changing the political system.

    Here in australia there have been something like 7 different prime ministers in 13-14 years.

    There own political party sacks them after being voted in, that's how good they are an the system????

    As an outside observer into politics in the usa it seems like it's a civil war over there,americans fighting amongst themselves because of the way they vote.

    About half the voters want trump, about half the voters don't. The others are non voters.

    People seem to blame countries for starting wars etc, when they should be blaming political parties and leaders.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 2020 Posts: 15,713
    After nearly 100 days without any cases, Vietnam now has recorded 140 cases in the past few days. 45 of those came yesterday, the country's worst day since the global pandemic began.

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    China has recorded 127 new cases on July 30th, their highest single day rise since March 5th.

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    Ireland has recorded 85 cases on July 30th, its highest single day increase since May 22nd.

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    Belgium's average of new infections per day reaches 347, a 77% increase within 10 days. Hospital admissions have also nearly doubled in the past 10 days.

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    The UK has tightened restriction in Greater Manchester and parts of east Lancashire & West Yorkshire amidst a spike in coronavirus cases. Yesterday was the biggest single day rise in new cases in the UK since June 28th.

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    The USA have recorded nearly 1,500 deaths on July 30th.

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    India has recorded their highest single day increase on July 30th, with 54,966 new cases.

  • About half the voters want trump, about half the voters don't. The others are non voters.

    You and I disagree entirely and that's okay. Reasonable people should be able to disagree reasonably. But I do want to correct you on this point. According to current polls, about 1/3 of the voters are still supporting Trump and 2/3 are not. His response to the COVID-19 crisis has been just that bad.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    George Carlin always said it best for me on voting versus not voting:


    Of course he is right.
  • George Carlin was a comedian. He wasn't trying to be "right" -- just funny. As I said above, "reasonable people should be able to disagree reasonably."
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 2020 Posts: 15,713
    Looks like the worst case scenario is about to happen in the USA: the coronavirus transmission rate in New Jersey has risen to its highest level in 3 months.

    The very first epicenter of Covid-19 in the USA was the north-eastern region. The absolute chaotic handling of the pandemic in the southern states may now cause a resurgence of infections in the region that got it under control. And this news comes within days of Florida, Texas and California having overtaken the total number of cases recorded in New-York.

    https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/07/coronavirus-transmission-rate-is-highest-in-3-months-alarms-are-going-off-murphy-warns.html
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,960
    Florida has also had record-breaking deaths four days in a row now.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
    Posts: 8,247
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    George Carlin always said it best for me on voting versus not voting:


    Of course he is right.

    So instead of doing something about it, like, in example, become a candidate (democracy isn't only beeing passive, after all) he finds it more important to complain than have the country run properly? Odd logic. Reminds me of that line in Star Wars: 'so this is how democracy dies: with thunderous applause'. Of course the last sentence should actually read: 'with thunderous complaints'.

    Anyway, I understand the US is keeping that America First thing going pretty well, dispite Brazil's best efforts. As per usual Europe isn't anywhere near those numbers.

    Fascinating man that Bolsonario. Instead of accepting his lung problems come from COVID, he's now saying he's got a mold in his lungs due to staying indoors for 14 days. That presidential palace sure must be a horrific place to stay.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited August 2020 Posts: 4,583

    About half the voters want trump, about half the voters don't. The others are non voters.

    You and I disagree entirely and that's okay. Reasonable people should be able to disagree reasonably. But I do want to correct you on this point. According to current polls, about 1/3 of the voters are still supporting Trump and 2/3 are not. His response to the COVID-19 crisis has been just that bad.

    I try not to think about it. But here we are, 4 1/2 months into this, and things are worse, not better. The main problem is the fragmented approach to this crisis and the fact that the 1/3 you mention are bat shit crazy. They don't want masks. They think our doctors are part of a deep state trying to undermine their supreme leader. They are quoting and listening to quacks who think sex with aliens is a medical condition. They have begun calling the virus the Communist China Virus.

    Ok. I have said enough. My head is about to explode. Back to thinking about something else. LOL
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited August 2020 Posts: 15,713
    It has shown, @patb, that children (as a group) are not getting sick from this virus in great numbers. Some people downplay the virus because of that. This usually comes up when comparing this virus to the flu (but we have a vaccine for the flu); yes, lots of kids still get the flu. But this virus is not devastating to most children, which is great (yet some people use it as a bit of an argument).

    I am singling out this post not to make fun of @4EverBonded, but to show how much the situation has evolved since this was posted in April:

    Children and teenagers are getting sick by Covid-19 in large numbers in the US, and the numbers are rising exponentially. Several states are also recording a growing number of child & teenagers dying from Covid-19. All of this while the Trump administration is forcing schools to reopen as soon as possible, going as far as threatening to withhold state funds to schools that won't reopen.

    As an example:

    Coronavirus infected hundreds of children at US summer camp.

    The virus infected at least 260 of the 597 attendees. The true number is probably higher since test results were only available for 58 percent of the group.

    https://www.france24.com/en/20200731-coronavirus-infected-hundreds-of-children-at-us-summer-camp
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