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You are saying so, not me.
False, I am just stating a fact given the numbers. Do you like math?
The survival rate is low compared to the number of cases. That is all.
I'll give you another chance to answer.
The USA average above 1,000 deaths for 10 of the last 14 days. Over 13,000 deaths in the past 2 weeks. Those 2 weeks you said 'the USA are doing good'. That gives USA the highest death rate in the world. currently. So you can downplay your national disaster by comparing the survival rate to the case number all you want. But I don't have time for such nonsense so I'll be honest that I won't waste my time to read your answer anyway. So if you want to waste your time posting an answer that won't be read, be my guest.
Safe to say they don t see the irony in what they are saying.
America is the richest and most powerful nation on earth. It is not the most populous, even the most densely populated but has the most cases. But It has a government putting politics before science - anyone remember the injecting bleach thing? The complaining that Fauci is more popular. And a sizeable number who think the right to kill old and vulnerable people is more important than the right to look after your fellow man.
The death rate per million is the same as Brazil and there aren’t really many countries with worse numbers - Peru, Spain....
Don’t get me wrong. Other countries are the same. The UK has been a show. I just mind admitting it.
The best thing at the moment is to have is a treatment for covid, like antibiotics for the flu.
Who knows when a vaccine is found ?
Now is not a time for politics. All people should work together no matter what their political preferences are.
This is not politics. This is science.
The doctors give me and others antibiotics for the flu for many years and it helps me get rid of the flu, and when i haven't taken them it takes much much longer.
Obviously it seems impossible for people to work together to help combat this pandemic.
https://wa.kaiserpermanente.org/healthAndWellness/index.jhtml?item=/common/healthAndWellness/medications/managingMedications/antibiotics.html
I've read that stuff from google searches as well.
All i can say again is that from personal use and other people who have used antibiotics given by doctors for many years is that it works to combat the flu in 4-5 days as compared to when i haven't gone to the doctor it takes 3-4 weeks to fully recover.
I'm saddened that this is your only education source. When I was a kid we had real science classes....
AHHH,I love the smell of bunsen burners in the morning........ :)>-
Great days indeed.
Where did you get your information from that it really doesn't help to combat the actual virus. ?
My education, my dear @007InAction. I'm a biochemical engineer. ;-)
Viruses and bacteria are fundamentally different creatures, with less in common than mosquitos and humans so to speak. Antibiotics fight bacteria, but not viruses. The flu is caused by the influenza virus. Hence: antibiotics don't relieve the unpleasant symptoms or speed up the healing process. They cannot be taken preventively, nor do they give you more immunity.
If bacteria have attacked your throat, for example, then antibiotics might help.
Have you ever tried them for the flu ?
I and others i know have, as prescribed by GP's, and that's good enough for me, that's why in all respect i don't value your opinion on the subject.
I think the only way for anybody to really find out if they work is to try them yourself imo.
They were prescribed to me when it was still in vogue to do so, in the 1990s, say. I recovered then... but I also recovered from the flu without them in later times, and I can't say that I have experienced much of a difference. So yes, I have "tried" them, I guess, though not deliberately, but that was a long time ago. A lot of knowledge was gathered on antibiotics since and the practice was abandoned in my region. I've also had the flu since, and as I said, nothing indicates that the antibiotics were helpful way back when, other than, perhaps, for the placebo effect.
Haha, ok. Wow. :D I don't mind. But let me correct your one mistake here. This isn't an 'opinion' of mine, friend. I don't deal in opinions when it comes to science. I deal in facts. But that's okay. Flat-Earthers don't value my "opinion" in many matters (i.e. facts) either, but they are still hilariously wrong. :p
All I can do is repeat the scientific fact, demonstrated again and again, that antibiotics do not fight viruses. It's simple biochemistry, really. A virus escapes the clutches of the antibiotic molecules, so to say. A virus won't even experience the presence of an antibiotic.
I understand that you swear by antibiotics when you've got the flu because you have convinced yourself of a causal link between antibiotics and getting better from the flu. Tons of people similarly swear by certain products that have no proven effect on something, but their mind is so set on healing when they have taken the stuff, it produces a positive response in the mind that certainly helps with the healing process.
What concerns me is that your GP's still prescribe antibiotics for the flu. They are operating from a very outdated medical handbook and increase the risk of making antibiotics powerless in the near future.
That you and others swear by them, demonstrates nothing. There was a time when many folks believed that smoking cured several diseases too... And those people, no matter how great their numbers, were of course wrong. Shared experiences still mean nothing. In the end, science always prevails, as it will in this case.
Look, @007InAction, I'm not picking a fight with you or anything, so don't take this personally. I'm not saying this to make you look bad or to infuriate you. When I say that antibiotics don't work against the flu, I say so coldly and dispassionately, not condescendingly or mockingly. I've got no dog in this fight. It just happens to be a fact and your GP's haven't gotten that memo yet or refuse to accept the new paradigm. There's the fact, and then there's people's willingness to accept it. That some don't, means nothing to the influenza virus. It won't mind you taking antibiotics, nor that you "believe" they will work, supposedly from experience. All I can do is warn you that if you continue to take antibiotics when suffering from the flu, you may, in fact, expose yourself to bigger threats. It wouldn't be the first time that someone loses a toe or even an entire limb because overuse of antibiotics has produced resistant flesh-eating mutations.
Lastly, I am not anti-antibiotics. :) When properly used, they can be very effective. They've been very helpful to me when removing painful bacteria from my throat. But I will only use them in a proven, target-specific way, and the flu is a completely different chapter in the medical handbook. Now, I don't mind that you don't value my professional qualifications, although that's quite a bold statement, but let me at least give you a friendly word of advice: be very careful with antibiotics. They can do a lot of good, and also a lot of bad. So the increasing awareness of antibiotics' powerlessness against viruses might be a topic of interest to you.
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I know that in your fundamentalist head the link is more important than the message, but besides cellphone films, the RT link was all I could find. Will post an interview from DW later, maybe that works better.
The source does play a role in that it shows how such nonsense is in someone's political interest, but even if you find a DW report about this, idiocy remains idiocy.
The source does play a role in that it shows how such nonsense is in someone's political interest, but even if you find a DW report about this, idiocy remains idiocy.[/quote]
You are referring to your own reactions here?
You are referring to your own reactions here?[/quote]
Oh, come on, this is even below your usual standards. Fact is, this conspiracy nonsense is complete bullshit and not worth even discussing. Bill Gates is not injecting people with microchips, vapor trails are not "chemtrails", and the WTC was not blown up by anything but the planes the Al-Qaida guys crashed into them. Get lost with anything else. We have more important things to care about than psychopaths' nightmares. And just to make sure, I'm not saying you're one of them. Just one of those who seem to enjoy repeating them, contrary to all reason.
I didn t find the DW clip, but here is another.