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We'll have to wait and see about that one. If they really stopped his treatment, the virus might be back wwith a vengeance within a couple of days. At least that's the pattern that's been seen before. And this guy does fit to some of the risk-groups criteria. I understand he's still got a 1 in 5 chance not to survive.
In the mena time, I'm short-selling. Might as well make some money out of stupidity. We're up to 5000 new cases per day. On our way to 'The Netherlads Second' I suppose.
Me too.
For the safety of your fellow human beings.
People who want their freedom back, have to understand that such a thing simply won't happen if they continue to cling to their "absolute freedoms" while we're battling this pandemic. A year of sacrifice now, could result in many more of near-perfect freedom afterwards. It's a small price to pay.
My trigger in this same fashion is "freedom."
"Free is when you don't have to pay for nothing or do nothing; we want to be free! Free as the wind!" --Frank Zappa, "Teen Age Wind"
(I'll put the obligatory song link in the General Music Thread where @Thundy can be sure to find it...)
Ironically, those same bozos who put others in danger always say "freedom isn't free". Perhaps they should apply that to this situation.
Well said. It’s astounding people who live in a society of humans believe in absolute freedoms over the health and well being of others. Here are some other freedoms the government has taken away from you for the exact same reason:
Freedom to steal from whomever you want
Freedom to murder
Freedom to rape
Freedom to drive without stopping at intersections
"Can you help me with-"
"No."
"You just bought yourself some detention, young man."
"No. I didn't. Call my parents and see if they care."
"Stay home as much as possible and don't meet up with people unless it's absolutely necessary."
"No."
During our first lockdown, the police had to shut down "corona parties" and fine people for violating the rules. Makes sense, right? Well, do you know how some people responded to that? "The cops are turning this country into a police state! They are fascist pigs!" Yeah, uh-uh, double negative on that. The cops are part of a system that is trying to prevent us from going from bad to even worse, they are part of a system of control. But that's an ugly word these days, isn't it? We don't want to be controlled. 'Cause then it's all about "Orwell's Big Brother society", about the "Illuminati", about secret cabals putting the chains on us and our thinking. Seriously? We're trying to fight a bloody virus that's killing more people than anyone could've imagined eight months ago. But social inertia prevents us from doing what should be done, unless experts and people in authority tell us what we can and cannot do. And we won't obey them, unless there's a system of punishment behind that. The sad part isn't that said system exists, but that our inability to cooperate necessitates its existence.
Nearly everything bad that's going on at this point in the pandemic, we entirely owe to ourselves and our paradoxical quest for freedom, paradoxical in the sense that the more we break the rules now for a semblance of freedom, the longer it'll take to get the actual thing back and the higher the death toll.
Walking outside after a certain hour, or poeople meeting friends in their own homes is not, in my opinion, equal to rape and murder. It is this type of unfounded superstition that poses the real threat to other people. It is an unacceptable attitude.
Until you happen to have corona (even though you don't show symptoms), or one of your friends does, and one of them has diabetes and dies because of it.
Please don't forget that several of the rules we have now, were imposed on us because stupid people sought creative ways of violating the few simple and effective ones we had first. Complain all you want, but politicians aren't after your freedom; they're after the virus. They don't like this any more than we do, because this is costing the states a lot of money. The ones you should be complaining to are those who refuse to put even a small effort into this battle, those who pretend it's not real, or who complain about their freedom.
The point is not that these are quite as bad as rape or murder, but that some "freedoms" have to be restricted if we want to fight a common enemy.
And superstition? Really? You want to talk about superstition? Okay, talk to all those morons out there who believe this pandemic is an act of their oh-so benevolent god and that we don't need to wear mouthmasks but, instead, pray; and that science isn't to be trusted, but a senile old geezer is.
If a few simple rules with which we can effectively fight the pandemic are met with such stubborn opposition, what hopes do we have of stopping global warming, people? How is this possible? Yeah, a lockdown is unpleasant. Deal with it, grow a pair and deal with it. Don't cry about bad men restricting your precious freedoms. Stop acting like the kid in the candy store who can have some sweets, but not all. Be part of the solution, not of the problem. Your freedoms will come back to you. Maybe. It'll all depend on how stubbornly people will continue to cling to their many precious luxury entitlements.
Better put than I possibly could have.