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President Biden is saying much the same thing.
Well, here in the EU it doesn't look like we'll get there anytime soon.
Yeah and it’s really frustrating.
I can see your point (my own vaccination won't happen before June, probably later), but IMO it's another case of people in charge having to do something for the first time. If the EU commission (or for that matter the national governments) had ordered billions of vaccine doses for zillions of euros just to be sure, people and media would criticize them for wasting money. Politicians are between a rock and a hard place, considering they're already spending trillions (literally, for the first time ever) to mitigate the effects of lockdowns etc. I can forgive them for being cautious in making decisions. Especially if and when it actually works, people will think the measures taken were either too expensive or even simply unnecessary.
I don't envy the people in charge, wouldn't want to have their jobs, and think they have overall done a good one in spite of the circumstances. They don't have more foresight than their critics. Nor less.
Where did I say I hate Russia? All I'm saying is that a country that makes it a sport infiltrating or occupying parts of neighbouring countries (Georgia, Ukraine, etc.), where the opposition is murdered (and if that doesn't work, arrested) and any opposing media to the current regime is effectively taken down might not have the most reliable state media. But on the whole I have nothing against Russians, many of them are lovely people. Moreover I have a certain fondness for many Russian dishes and Russian music, allthough their television could do with some more intelligent shows, but hey, that counts for just about any other country as well.
You still want to know the difference between Russian and Western state media? How many invasions have the Norwegian state media been reporting as defence of the motherland?
Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, to name the ones that spring to mind.
It is also apparent that you have been brainwashed by your own state media. But aren t you a bit off-topic now?
Are you quite sure that's how they reported it? Interesting. How many troops did the Norwegians send to these 'invasions'? Is Norway still 'occupying' these countries? Forcing their natives to speak Norwegian? Handing them Norwegian passports?
I must admit that our state media seem to be on a roll: they already brainwashed me while I never follow them! Hats off to them!
Off topic? well, when it comes to pandemics it's kind of important to get your information from reliable sources. You claim RT was just the first one that popped up, but why use it then? Why not click on a link of a more reliable source with less a political agenda? Why not click the second or third link.
The vaccination centre was a bit surreal, I get my second dose early April (first dose was in January). Other than a bit of pain in left arm and slight tiredness no other side effects, think tiredness was from lack of sleep to be honest.
Could be worse. I am lucky if I get my first dose before then... :P
Same here. Or actually it probably won't be before June at the earliest. And I'll be 65 in October this year, barring unforeseen events.
Oh, I'm not complaining. The complaint here in Ireland is that the rollout is slow! And theres a suspicion that the long gap in between doses is down to lack of supply! I like to think though its down to it being more effective this way!
I work with Adults with Intellectual disabilities, and we never stopped working since the pandemic began, so am just relieved to have got the first dose at least!
I think lack of supply of the vaccine is the problem and that sadly the richer countries will get it first.
Like i said before the vaccine formula should be given to other pharma manufacturers to stop this pandemic as soon as possible Worldwide not just for the highest bidders as seems to be the case.
I don't know what the United nations, WHO and others are doing to enable this ?
Not that I want to make this into a competition, but to give you an idea about how it is going I'd like to uote Blackadder:
Yes. Well, it started badly, it tailed off a little in the middle,
and the less said about the end, the better. But, apart than that,
excellent.
A booster shot could be given six to 12 months after the first dose, with Pfizer testing whether it's needed to protect against future possible COVID-19 strains.
https://www.cnet.com/health/pfizer-is-testing-whether-third-shot-will-help-tackle-covid-19-variants/
Forget it, @DarthDimi, if we had had the Internet 50 or 150 years ago, the world would still be suffering from smallpox and polio. Idiots don't die out, they are just more vocal than ever.
In the US today, they are saying they plan to vaccinate children in the fall, which is another important step.
The frustrating thing is that anti-vaxxers have nothing but the silliest claims to work with. They're not even close to something of any scientific plausibility. It feels like talking about female pregnancy with someone who believes that kids are grown in cabbage plants. The truth is that morons like these are not just people "entitled to their opinion"; they are dangerous idiots, left behind by the 21st Century.
Well, what do you expect from morons who prefer to follow a guy dressed up as a shaman, or from flat earthers, bible fanatics and conspiracy theorists? "Entitled to an opinion?" No, this isn't about opinion, this is about endangering others because most people matured beyond the age of five, but some didn't.
Unfortunately the groups you mention primary motive is often to seek attention and be disruptive.
Me personally I live in the real world and focus on fact when it's available.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/03/archdiocese-bans-covid-vaccine-over-tenuous-link-to-abortion.html
They can also choose not to administer the J&J vaccine. If that is the only one available, such a decision would be tantamount to euthanasia in the case of the many who will then still die from Corona virus. Quite the moral progress from our Catholic friends.
See, I just don't get it. If the FBI intercepts threatening messages from terrorist suspects, people get arrested and dragged to some max security prison. But the Church can antagonize the very thing we need to save people's lives and get away with it. Another one of those precious freedoms I suppose? Yet COVID has claimed many more victims than 9/11 already... If someone suggested we lower airport security to before 2001, he would be flogged out of the country. But conspiracy thinkers, religious creeps and certain presidents can, either through adverse action or inaction, contribute to the death toll and still have a large crowd worshipping at their althar.
I have a UK friend who sees it differently: "We banished our religious crazies to the US."
The puritanical streak still runs deep here. And our Supreme Court continues to rule in favor of religious exemptions, allowing people to gather to worship during the pandemic. What could go wrong?!?
Catholics don't want us to accept the J&J vaccine because there's a remote connection to abortion. Abortion is wrong, isn't it? I mean, it's about killing people. But then so is refusing vaccines and keeping the pandemic going.
I'm wrong? Okay, I am. Because the good man from the article is fine with us accepting the other vaccines. It's not like we can just pick the one we like, but okay.
Still, I wonder if God really doesn't want us to treat our grandparents with a vaccine that has the potential to save their lives, regardless of where it comes from or how it was tested of whatever. The alternative is to not give them the vaccine and wait for another one, even if that other one may never come. And if they then get ill from Covid and eventually pass away, and I could've prevented this but didn't, how does that reflect on me? I may be one step closer to Heaven for not supporting a vaccine that has something to do with abortion, but ten steps removed from Heaven because I basically performed euthanasia on my grandparents by denying them a life-saving vaccine in the middle of a global pandemic with the highest mortality rates among their age group. Seems like a case of "neglect", which would look bad on my Afterlife resume.
Wrong again, I guess. Because "God has a plan for all of us"; yes he does. If you die from Covid-19, you were marked for death anyway and we should just accept it. No no no, no complaining about "I could have given them a vaccine that could have bloody well saved their lives"--no, my son, God wills it this way, or so Catholics tell us.
But see, I'm also confused. Because if that is indeed so, then God must also enjoy giving AIDS to babies in Africa because that's also part of the plan it seems. Yet I don't see too many Catholics denying God the entrance to their churches, even if that makes him about the biggest and cruellest murderer in our history. Hm. That's furthermore strange because that's like abortion in the extreme. Let the child be born, make it suffer and then take its life anyway and impose the worst misery and grief on its parents for them to endure for as long as they may live. Either way, I'm sure God wouldn't mind us taking a vaccine that a twisted mind could somehow relate to abortions if he himself isn't opposed to making innocent children suffer. Unless, of course, he is like that geezer Donald J., who used to say one thing now and totally deny having said it the next minute. I recall those days; it was fun laughing at his dementia, but they cancelled his show on TV. Something about losing--let's see: 1, 2, 3--every election, but I digress. Surely God is more stable and clear-minded that this clown. Where was I? Oh yes, the part where he likes killing babies.
But no, you're right, not God. He wouldn't. No, you see, AIDS is a filthy thing. God would never give babies AIDS. But hey, maybe all of that is a little, I dunno, beyond his control, that AIDS thing. Maybe God is secretly hoping we can create a cure for AIDS because he can't. (Otherwise, he would have, because God is great and wise and good--or so I've been told.) So with that in mind, God must surely want us to distribute every possible vaccine we have, no matter the science and research behind it, if it is meant to do good, you know, like saving lives and all?
So I guess the Catholic spokesperson has it all wrong, and J&J's vaccine will be most welcome in God's world. Well, I don't know about you, @echo, but I'm feeling a whole lot better now...
;-)
@DarthDimi tbh by now I think you should let it go. It's called darwinism. They'll die out eventually. Let's get everyone vaccinated who wants it. The rest can dig their own graves.