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Thanks! @CharmianBond for clarification. 👍
If they do they don't mention it, Bond certainly doesn't proffer that he has in the scene beforehand where's Q's explaining it. Again I think it's a case of M thinking it's a risk worth taking, all Bond has to do is not touch Blofeld, he wouldn't do a reckless thing like that now would he? 😄
Good spot re. M's 'we took your information seriously but that was five years ago' showing that Bond had told MI6 about Matera and Madeleine's apparent involvement with Spectre. I don't think that'd quite registered with me and now I can't work out how it didn't!
Ah yes that does make more sense, it is very 'blink and you'll miss it' Bond hears gunfire after dispatching Logan Ash and the next shot is Madeleine taking the henchman down and for a split second you can just see and hear the slide being drawn back showing she's out of bullets.
Yep, she pulls the trigger but is out of bullets.
Storywise it fits that Blofeld was known to not be in Cuba so he wasn't targeted. Until later.
Also aligns with standard villainy, delusions of omnipotence and godlike powers to control these things. Allow Blofeld to endure his failure.
But they should have considered it yes. Did an evaluation of targeted DNA tell them Blofeld was included out.
Feels a bit of a reach; we keep having to hear how these nanobots target all of Spectre... apart from Primo. And Blofeld. And that guy over there ;)
And what do people do with it? Blofeld wants to drop it right on top of Bond’s head, which is then turned on it’s head and Safin wants to use just one step from Madeleine to Blofeld. Why didn’t he just infect a henchman and have him shake Madeleine‘s assistant‘s hand and you‘re done. No way for Madeleine to decide against doing it, if she had no idea it’s there…
Madeleine had to know she needed to physically touch Blofeld to infect him. Infecting her without her knowing wouldn't necessarily have infected Blofeld if they didn't touch.
Ah, didn’t think of that. Cheers.
I actually thought the nanobot idea was quite clever, (I know some didn't like it). I think EON could have made a cracking Bond film out of that idea, had they not wanted to do all that other stuff.
I dunno, somehow he's got the DNA of every single person who works for Spectre but the boss?
I don't think Blofeld would have authorised that anyway, because the plan seemed to be (before Valdo switched it around) that the virus in the Cuba killed everybody but Spectre people, so his plan would have involved releasing a deadly toxin into the world which he wasn't immune to.
The Spectre plan in Cuba was to only kill Bond.
Safin would have Blofeld's DNA on hand. From there it would be about control, when to use it.
The virus released in Cuba targeted higher level Spectre folks, not all of the group. Including apparently a decision to not kill Primo, to be useful later.
Believe the ones in the film are meant for pretty flat ice surfaces and packed snow. And crampons are larger spikes for inclines and outright ice climbing.
And on relationships too. Apparently.
1. Why did Safin kill Blofeld and Spectre? What does he gain?
2. By infecting people with Heracles, and potentially killing millions of people, what does Safin get?
Forgive me if I'm a little slow on the uptake or have missed a line of dialogue here and there.
It was motivated by revenge fundamentally. SPECTRE did after all murder his parents so it makes sense he'd not only want to kill Blofeld but destroy his entire organisation too.
It's the annoying thing about Safin as a character - I find him quite compelling for the first portion of the film in the sense that his motives are understandable. It's perhaps a contrived way of going about such a goal, but it makes sense so the audience can go along with it.
With that in mind...
This is where the problems come in.
I think the film implies that Safin has developed some sort of God complex (he seems to ramble on about free will not being real during his confrontation with Bond). I think his plan was to force Madeline to stay with him (out of some weird twisted attraction to her that's inadequately explored) while he sold off the nanobots to shady buyers who were planning to commit acts of terrorism with it for unexplained reasons. So in that sense he's acting as this invisible God and is responsible for this technological plague...
Personally it makes no sense to me and I find much of Safin's dialogue in these sections bizarre and unclear. I suspect it was a case where the writers wrote itself into a corner with the fact that Safin killed all of SPECTRE by the beginning of the third act. After that he no longer had any goal as a character because he'd accomplished what he'd set out to do. They needed something compelling for the third act to keep the stakes up so settled on the 'ticking clock' plot device of the buyers and had to justify why Safin would do such a thing. Like I said, it makes little sense to me.
It's a blink and you'll miss it line, but I'm hoping others have heard it?
He does indeed!
Also, his completely out of character overacting with his arms and hands always generates a good laugh.
Yeah, that probably would have worked.
The mistake was making Safin too rational and the mirror image of Bond. To which I say, yawn, I'm tired of more or less rational mirror images of Bond. Give me a hothead for once.
It might have been better if he was simply like: "Hey, I found Madeleine first, and Bond I will destroy you, your daughter, and the world, all to keep Madeleine on this island with me."
I'll have to keep an ear out for the "Blofield" bit. At which point does he say it like that?
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