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SPECTRE could have given a tip of the hat to this ending , and that of FRWL, by having Bond defeat Blofeld at his crater lair; after checking in with M he and Madeleine slip away to a secluded , romantic, location for some R&R only to encounter a very pissed of Hinx, who is now wearing a cool looking metallic, henchman, neck brace. A epic battle ensues
It's dropped a little bit for me over the last few years but still one of the most unique and atmospheric films in the series.
This is basically my dream ending to Spectre.
I was pushing for "best scene where the film's title is (first) mentioned by a character", I think that'd be a fun and unique elimination game.
That would be interesting. NTTD was one of the worst though - "do you know what time it is?".
It's definitely not my favourite.
"Do you know what time it is?"
"No."
"Time to die!"
Mi6 agent kills a defenceless baddie in cold blood because he said something racist. Brilliant.
I mean, he did a great number of terrible things. But it’s true it was in cold blood. Didn’t feel unjustified though.
I think the best 'serious' ending to the series is CR, and the best silly ending is TSWLM. When you compare them, it's hard to believe they're from the same franchise.
I though liked Octopussy as after Bond saved the day, we have Bond and Octopussy having some honeymoon inside her boat, then it sails through the sunset.
The same for TLD, I also liked this, After Kara performed in her concert, she's not hoping that Bond's coming, but there are two martinis and Bond jingled the bell, as he pulled her, and they've kissed, and it ends with 'If there was a man'.
Both are romantic endings.
It's well deserved for me, Valdo is really annoying, that when Nomi decided to kill him, I've really cheered! That guy's really annoying and irritating, I don't even liked his facial expressions, he's weird in a bad way.
He's funny in the Cuba sequence, but he did gets annoying in the final act.
Almost as bad as "what a view... to a kill!"
A lot of things were done to placate current sensibilities in the Craig era, and that's fine, but I did feel the killing of Valdo was a bit too obvious for comfort.
Umm, he was going on about genocide before he was killed. Not the same thing.
And she does have a licence to kill.
If I remember it right, he says something about "I could wipe out your entire race". I don't really want to get bogged down in the whole 'woke' thing, but I felt it was a pretty obvious attempt to cater for the current moral zeitgeist. And if you saw it different then that's fine too.
Oh wow. Boogeymen around every corner....
To me, it suits the character to perfection. James Bond is a man defined by the loss of his family at a young age. It informs every single other facet of his character. The idea that he would sacrifice himself to save the only family he's found since rings absolutely true to me. It's also true that I expected, should the character have ever died, to have had it be a very matter-of-fact type of way, a stray bullet the likes of The Killing of a Chinese Bookie or Children of Men, the latter of which of course has some parallels re: the significance of his death and what it is in service of. But then again, I would have bet on Bond dying on screen long before I would have ever bet on him having a child, so that's probably why I wouldn't have expected something so grandiose before NTTD. Of course, though, he would give his life for his child. His parents were the most important people in the world to him and no one - not Vesper, not Tracy, no one - ever usurped that. I view that as the thing that directly informs his sacrifice.
Nice, and I agree.
The producers want to kill off Bond, no problem. Fleming himself wanted to kill off the character numerous times and in the case of FRWL almost did it. But it has to make some logical sense. This is to me where NTTD fails. It makes no sense given all the character has gone through that he would simply stand there and watch the missiles fall.
The nanobots seem to be a contrived device where the writers make them impervious to EMP, nothing can cure you once they are in you. ummm okay. Then we have the ending, where Bond sends off another double-o agent so that he can take on the baddies alone. After you set up Nomi has this strong character, we are now supposed to believe that she would meekly accept Bond's orders instead of staying and finishing the mission?
Then we have the ending, where these mysterious ships are approaching the island. The plan is to blow up the island? Not send the fleet after the boats? Not to do anything else, but blow up the island?
Too many leaps of logic for me. I would have accepted Bond dying but the circumstances needed to be right. Would have much preferred an ending where it was a missing but presumed dead. Not a he's dead and gone. The stakes didn't seem to warrant this character dying.
I do find it funny how Nomi takes command to help them escape instead of staying behind to finish the mission and letting Bond personally handle the rescue of his own family. It comes off as backwards and illogical to me.
I disagree here; it would have been well within the reality of a Bond story to have him escape the island. If he had escaped, though, it's not only that he would never be able to see his family again, it's that by the nature of the virus, it would inevitably work it's way to them and kill them (Mathilde waxing poetic about mosquitos in the back of the SUV alludes to this inevitability).
If Bond had escaped the island, Madeleine and Mathilde would certainly have died.
Bond staying behind on the island rather than escorting his family away and letting Nomi finish the job would have sort of been antithesis to the character of Bond, who always wants to see things through, I think.
All of them were dead..... Just imagine.....
Outside of "it's a Bond film so it has to be Bond finishing the mission" and "we wrote this backwards from the ending and we need him dead" it doesn't really hold up to me. I don't even mind the idea of Craig's Bond dying in theory, but this execution is way too contrived for me.
To be fair Waltz's Blofeld was pretty lame too, so I don't think an alternate version of NTTD with him killing Bond would have been any better in that area.