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  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited February 26 Posts: 3,226
    Did Nolan ever actually say anything explicitly about demanding final cut or have Variety just inferred it from his actual words? What he said on that 2023 Happy Sad Confused podcast was:

    'You wouldn’t want to take on a film not fully committed to what you bring to the table creatively. So as a writer, casting, everything, it’s a full package. You’d have to be really needed, you’d have to be really wanted in terms of bringing the totality of what you bring to a character. Otherwise, I’m very happy to be first in line to see whatever they do.'

    'Writing, casting, everything' is more than final cut, it's pretty much 'you give me the money and I do whatever I want.' Mendes said that BB and MGW sat on set during the making of SF and passed him notes between takes - producers with that level of involvement could never be as hands-off as Nolan wanted. But Amazon might...?
  • Escalus5Escalus5
    Posts: 633
    I'm not surprised Broccoli insisted that she (and MGW) have creative control, because TENET is clearly the product of a director who disappeared up his own butt. Nolan is lucky that OPPENHEIMER was received so well, because TENET could've been the beginning of the end of his career.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 41,102
    https://deadline.com/2025/02/james-bond-amazon-ceo-andy-jassy-1236302862/
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,386
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    https://deadline.com/2025/02/james-bond-amazon-ceo-andy-jassy-1236302862/

    "we expect to develop over a long period of time.” Sigh...
  • bondywondybondywondy Uk
    edited February 26 Posts: 484
    Eon Productions reported revenue since NTTD release:
    According to corporate filings in the U.K., EON Productions — the Broccoli and Wilson company that had controlled Bond until now — received £235 million in revenue in 2021, the year the last Bond film No Time to Die was released. Even years without films were quite lucrative: In 2023, EON had revenue of more than £22 million, in 2022 it brought in nearly £16 million.

    2024 figure not disclosed. With profit like that guess Eon were not in a rush to make Bond 26. Who'd have thought killing off James Bond could be so profitable!





  • buddyoldchapbuddyoldchap Formerly known as JeremyBondon
    Posts: 281
    talos7 wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    https://deadline.com/2025/02/james-bond-amazon-ceo-andy-jassy-1236302862/

    "we expect to develop over a long period of time.” Sigh...

    The franchise, not the first film
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    edited February 26 Posts: 8,339
    bondywondy wrote: »
    Eon Productions reported revenue since NTTD release:
    According to corporate filings in the U.K., EON Productions — the Broccoli and Wilson company that had controlled Bond until now — received £235 million in revenue in 2021, the year the last Bond film No Time to Die was released. Even years without films were quite lucrative: In 2023, EON had revenue of more than £22 million, in 2022 it brought in nearly £16 million.

    2024 figure not disclosed. With profit like that guess Eon were not in a rush to make Bond 26. Who'd have thought killing off James Bond could be so profitable!

    It’s as if a subset of fans being a broken record over the years were just overly conflating how much Bond’s death negatively impacts the brand.

    Of course since that’s not the case I’m sure you’re gonna keep harping over the audacity of killing Bond anyway like it’s some international crime.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,515
    talos7 wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    https://deadline.com/2025/02/james-bond-amazon-ceo-andy-jassy-1236302862/

    "we expect to develop over a long period of time.” Sigh...

    Amazon can't do anything (publicly) until the deal with Eon closes in May.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    Posts: 4,676
    echo wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    https://deadline.com/2025/02/james-bond-amazon-ceo-andy-jassy-1236302862/

    "we expect to develop over a long period of time.” Sigh...

    Amazon can't do anything (publicly) until the deal with Eon closes in May.

    Even then they've said they have no story or script. It'll still take a bit.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    Posts: 8,339
    Not just a story or script but also a new appointed producer and director. I don’t expect any big news until 2026.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,685
    Nolan is available in autumn 2026, surely its worth waiting to see if he's interested. Seems like a Golden opportunity, given the series needs a guiding vision now, and that was his sticking point all along.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    Posts: 8,339
    I would say no to Nolan, but since Eon Bond is dead, I guess it won’t matter much anymore what happens to the property.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 17,198
    007HallY wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    https://deadline.com/2025/02/james-bond-amazon-ceo-andy-jassy-1236302862/

    "we expect to develop over a long period of time.” Sigh...

    Amazon can't do anything (publicly) until the deal with Eon closes in May.

    Even then they've said they have no story or script. It'll still take a bit.

    They haven't got a story or script? How incompetent etc.

    (I don't believe they are, it's just that some folk think if the producers haven't pulled a script from thin air they must be terrible at their jobs)
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
    edited February 26 Posts: 1,639
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    Not just a story or script but also a new appointed producer and director. I don’t expect any big news until 2026.

    We are going to have news before this summer. Mark my words.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,685
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    Not just a story or script but also a new appointed producer and director. I don’t expect any big news until 2026.

    We are going to have news before this summer. Mark my words.

    But what are you counting as summer? :-?
  • 007HallY007HallY
    Posts: 4,676
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    Not just a story or script but also a new appointed producer and director. I don’t expect any big news until 2026.

    We are going to have news before this summer. Mark my words.

    But what are you counting as summer? :-?

    I'd have asked what he was counting as news personally ;)
  • fjdinardofjdinardo
    Posts: 2,069
    Stamper wrote: »
    I don't know about you guys, but there's something satisfying about having all the Bond films from EON on a shelf (or several, as I own all DVD and Blu-ray permutations), and knowing it's a closed chapter of the 007 cinematic saga.

    recently I got rid of a majority of my DVDs but I kept all the Bond ones. Can't get rid of those
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
    Posts: 1,639
    007HallY wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    Not just a story or script but also a new appointed producer and director. I don’t expect any big news until 2026.

    We are going to have news before this summer. Mark my words.

    But what are you counting as summer? :-?

    I'd have asked what he was counting as news personally ;)
    The sound of people working
    :D
  • fjdinardofjdinardo
    Posts: 2,069
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    Not just a story or script but also a new appointed producer and director. I don’t expect any big news until 2026.

    yeah I don't expect a new movie until 2027 at the earliest
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,983
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    Not just a story or script but also a new appointed producer and director. I don’t expect any big news until 2026.

    yeah I don't expect a new movie until 2027 at the earliest

    And that's IF there is not a worldwide depression because of what's happening in the U.S......
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited 1:58am Posts: 4,623
    BMB007 wrote: »
    Daltonforyou wrote: »
    BMB007 wrote: »
    Daltonforyou wrote: »
    BMB007 wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    bondywondy wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Does the writer of that piece mean 'vitriolic'? Seems the wrong word there.

    I just listened to this week's Rest Is Entertainment where they talked about the situation, and I took it with a pinch of salt to be honest. The main thrust was that Broccoli (who had supposedly been in charge since 'mid way through the Brosnan films) was too attached to Craig and let Craig lead the decision of killing Bond off and couldn't think of a way out of it, and it sounded like Marina Hyde had more been reading forums than talking to people in the know. There's no 'way out of it' to find: he's just a new version of Bond, same as with the case for so many other characters. It's quite a puzzling conversation.

    What I do buy is that she was in a funk and couldn't think of a new spin on it exciting enough to actually want to make- I can totally buy that after doing your ultimate version of it for the last twenty years that the enthusiasm barrel rather runs dry. It doesn't mean it can't be done, but it probably does need someone else who's excited to make something like, say, GoldenEye again- but these guys have done that and there's not much in the way of creative hunger left if you've been there and done that, especially if you have taken it in a creative direction and had massive success with it. No-one is expecting Chris Nolan to ever make a new Batman film again, with another new spin on it, for example.

    Yes, her enthusiasm had gone. The fact she killed off her intellectual property is the evidence of little to no enthusiasm.

    Consider this....

    I doubt Lucasfilm would kill off Indiana Jones in one film then be motivated to reboot the franchise in the next film.

    I doubt Warner Bros would kill off Harry Potter in one film then be motivated to reboot the franchise in the next film.

    Everything that happened with NTTD is consistent with the outcome in 2025. Craig gone, Bond dead, Eon with no enthusiasm to continue = no development of Bond 26 = Amazon taking over.

    And, of course, her obvious lack of enthusiasm to carry on would have been made stronger when Amazon offered the cash. it's very easy to go from "I'm kinda unsure if I want to carry on" to absolute conviction: "yes, I've had enough, I quit!" when Amazon are offering to pay you a billion dollars to quit. Kinda makes the decision a lot easier.

    I am reminded of the old Nilsson song: "I can't live...if living is without yooooou!" She decided that she could not do another Bond film without Daniel in it. And so his suggestion that the character die in the end made perfect sense to her.

    It actually all seems so sad and understandable, and adds an important para-textual element to the entire Craig era. She was secretly (and maybe not so secretly) in love with him.

    If Barbara Broccoli was a man, absolutely no one would push this ridiculous and toxic narrative. The fact that some Bond fans throw it around with no evidence is disappointing. No one says this about Michael Wilson!

    Barbara clearly has the hots for Daniel, that's well established, and she has said numerous times she can't think of Bond after Daniel. Those are the inconvenient facts. Cubby Broccoli meanwhile, had no problem throwing a Bond out the door if he was a problem. People say this about Barbara and not Michael because she has seemingly had a bit more control than Wilson.

    Cubby took three times (arguably four!) to replace Connery which seems to be the identical "problem" you are saying? Does this mean that Cubby Broccoli had the hots for Connery?

    Don't tell me your this dense.

    You're the one making a sexist claim. Cubby's attachment to one actor is OK but Barbara's is not OK. The only difference is that she is a woman.

    Where did I say it wasn't OK? And where did I imply that?

    I have read a lot from Barbara in regards to Craig, and I have listened to her. She was very, very attracted to him. She all but admitted it. And she showers him with affection in Being James Bond.

    But in no way have I stated this is a bad thing or inappropriate. If anything, I feel empathy for her. Heck, nobody on this site has more of a man crush on Craig than I do! LOL. When she said that he is a charismatic man, whom you can't take your eyes off, she's right! I saw Craig leave a theater stage door back in 2013...I was three feet from him. Yes, he just exudes that charisma. As she says, "He's lit from within."

    It seems clear to me that Barbara simply couldn't make another Bond film without Daniel in it. Part of this I'm sure is age and exhaustion. But trying to move on without Craig was too much for her. And I get it.

  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
    edited 1:57am Posts: 617
    TripAces wrote: »
    BMB007 wrote: »
    Daltonforyou wrote: »
    BMB007 wrote: »
    Daltonforyou wrote: »
    BMB007 wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    bondywondy wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Does the writer of that piece mean 'vitriolic'? Seems the wrong word there.

    I just listened to this week's Rest Is Entertainment where they talked about the situation, and I took it with a pinch of salt to be honest. The main thrust was that Broccoli (who had supposedly been in charge since 'mid way through the Brosnan films) was too attached to Craig and let Craig lead the decision of killing Bond off and couldn't think of a way out of it, and it sounded like Marina Hyde had more been reading forums than talking to people in the know. There's no 'way out of it' to find: he's just a new version of Bond, same as with the case for so many other characters. It's quite a puzzling conversation.

    What I do buy is that she was in a funk and couldn't think of a new spin on it exciting enough to actually want to make- I can totally buy that after doing your ultimate version of it for the last twenty years that the enthusiasm barrel rather runs dry. It doesn't mean it can't be done, but it probably does need someone else who's excited to make something like, say, GoldenEye again- but these guys have done that and there's not much in the way of creative hunger left if you've been there and done that, especially if you have taken it in a creative direction and had massive success with it. No-one is expecting Chris Nolan to ever make a new Batman film again, with another new spin on it, for example.

    Yes, her enthusiasm had gone. The fact she killed off her intellectual property is the evidence of little to no enthusiasm.

    Consider this....

    I doubt Lucasfilm would kill off Indiana Jones in one film then be motivated to reboot the franchise in the next film.

    I doubt Warner Bros would kill off Harry Potter in one film then be motivated to reboot the franchise in the next film.

    Everything that happened with NTTD is consistent with the outcome in 2025. Craig gone, Bond dead, Eon with no enthusiasm to continue = no development of Bond 26 = Amazon taking over.

    And, of course, her obvious lack of enthusiasm to carry on would have been made stronger when Amazon offered the cash. it's very easy to go from "I'm kinda unsure if I want to carry on" to absolute conviction: "yes, I've had enough, I quit!" when Amazon are offering to pay you a billion dollars to quit. Kinda makes the decision a lot easier.

    I am reminded of the old Nilsson song: "I can't live...if living is without yooooou!" She decided that she could not do another Bond film without Daniel in it. And so his suggestion that the character die in the end made perfect sense to her.

    It actually all seems so sad and understandable, and adds an important para-textual element to the entire Craig era. She was secretly (and maybe not so secretly) in love with him.

    If Barbara Broccoli was a man, absolutely no one would push this ridiculous and toxic narrative. The fact that some Bond fans throw it around with no evidence is disappointing. No one says this about Michael Wilson!

    Barbara clearly has the hots for Daniel, that's well established, and she has said numerous times she can't think of Bond after Daniel. Those are the inconvenient facts. Cubby Broccoli meanwhile, had no problem throwing a Bond out the door if he was a problem. People say this about Barbara and not Michael because she has seemingly had a bit more control than Wilson.

    Cubby took three times (arguably four!) to replace Connery which seems to be the identical "problem" you are saying? Does this mean that Cubby Broccoli had the hots for Connery?

    Don't tell me your this dense.

    You're the one making a sexist claim. Cubby's attachment to one actor is OK but Barbara's is not OK. The only difference is that she is a woman.

    Where did I say it wasn't OK? And where did I imply that?

    I have read a lot from Barbara in regards to Craig, and I have listened to her. She was very, very attracted to him. She all but admitted it. And she showers him with affection in Being James Bond.

    But in no way have I stated this is a bad thing or inappropriate. If anything, I feel empathy for her. Heck, nobody on this site has more of a man crush on Craig than I do! LOL

    It seems clear to me that Barbara simply couldn't make another Bond film without Daniel in it. Part of this I'm sure is age and exhaustion. But trying to move on without Craig was too much for her. And I get it.

    You naughty boy! How dare you say a female can be attracted to a male?!?! A producer of such esteem can only be a celibate!
  • CrabKeyCrabKey
    Posts: 2,134
    A Bond film every two or three years may keep the franchise alive. But a streaming series will be the death of Bond. Initially they burn bright for a while, but then run out of steam and overstay their welcome.
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