EoN sells up - Amazon MGM to produce 007 going forwards

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Barbara Broccoli spurned Chris Nolan as director for fear of him having too much control ie Final Cut etc. sounds like she had lost the plot so best to get fresh blood involved .

    And if Cubby had given final cut away to the latest fashionable director rather than trust his experienced instinct..?
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    I think the only Bond director from the Broccoli/Saltzmen era who was allowed final cut was Peter Hunt, and that was because he went behind their backs and to UA to get them to back off when they tried to trim the movie. A UA executive saw a print of OHMSS and told both Cubby and Harry to leave the film as is. I’d say that was a pretty good call in retrospect. Now a Nolan Bond film? That might be a different story…
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    I now know what Bill Koenig talks about when he refers to the friends of eon.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I now know what Bill Koenig talks about when he refers to the friends of eon.

    Why? Because we agree with some of Eon’s decisions? You think we have no criticism to give?
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    It seems like it doesn't it? I know, crazy. But not just that, shooting down everyone who might have criticism as well, that's not very nice.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Nobody is stopping you from shooting down my criticisms or praises. That’s what’s fun about this place, is everyone having a different point of view. Some think Eon kicked poor Pierce to the curb with glee like a bad DEATH WISH sequel. I think they just realized they wanted to have a clean slate and Brosnan didn’t fit in with that.
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    Nobody is stopping you from shooting down my criticisms or praises. That’s what’s fun about this place, is everyone having a different point of view. Some think Eon kicked poor Pierce to the curb with glee like a bad DEATH WISH sequel. I think they just realized they wanted to have a clean slate and Brosnan didn’t fit in with that.

    No you're wrong, Pierce himself said he was kicked to the curb. (You mean like that?) :>

    but in all seriousness, I've heard reports saying he was asking for too much money, but I think Pierce probably felt a little strung along and didn't like being kept out of the loop as to what all their plans were.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    As an actor Pierce certainly has a flair for the dramatic!
  • slide_99slide_99 USA
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    Barbara and Michael could've been a bit more charitable with Brosnan. Did they have to be? Of course not, his contract was up, and business is business. But firing him over the phone was pretty low, especially for the actor who showed us that Bond, the ultimate Cold War hero, was still relevant in a post-Cold War world. 4 out of 5 of the lowest-grossing movies were made in the 80s (OP, AVTAK, TLD, LTK, with OHMSS also in there). If Bond's popularity was declining before the fall of the USSR, it was a good bet that he'd be seen as totally irrelevant after it.

    Despite all that, the series came back to the pop culture forefront in the 90s, and Brosnan's charm and popularity were a big part of that, even if the movies themselves were only seen as okay. But Brosnan was Cubby's choice and Craig was Barbara's, and she did the movies she wanted to with him, for better or worse. It's natural that she would praise Craig more than Brosnan, but given that Brosnan inherited a fading series and left it profitable while Craig inherited a series that was riding a box office high and left it in ruins, maybe she should've been a bit more professional with Brosnan, not to mention grateful.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    In terms of Pierce, I have always wondered how he allowed his contract on Remington Steele to interfere with becoming Bond. That one never squared.

    1. Contracts are made to be broken.
    2. Filming schedules are made to be flexible (They did this with Rami Malek)

    It seemed to me that Pierce gave up just a little too easily.

  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    It’s inaccurate to say Broz was fired because he never actually signed onto anything. He was a free agent after DAD, and they gave him a courtesy call to let him know they were gonna go a different direction. Broz can feel how he wants, but there were no ties.
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    Barbara Broccoli spurned Chris Nolan as director for fear of him having too much control ie Final Cut etc. sounds like she had lost the plot so best to get fresh blood involved .

    It's not about final cut. People need to think critically about reports like this one. Amazon has incentives to put stories in the papers that make the Broccolis look out-of-touch or incompetent.

    It's about the money. Nolan made about $100 million from "Oppenheimer". He is the biggest name-brand director in Hollywood. He got 15% first dollar gross (first dollar gross!) off of "Oppenheimer", in addition to everything else. Why on Earth if you were the Broccolis would you take that big of a chunk out of your own earnings when you could have another quality filmmaker make a hit movie for a significantly smaller amount? Similarly: if you are Nolan who could get any idea funded, why on Earth would you take gun-for-hire work?

    Now Amazon may make a different decision given that they need a HIT above all else, and they may decide whatever the cost is to them is worth it since they have no established track record. But then we get back into the micromanaging point — will Amazon have the necessary discipline to work with him? I would assume not.

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