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  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited March 11 Posts: 4,753
    Plot twist: the Amazon takeover was all an elaborate April Fool’s joke to drum up publicity and they’re announcing the next actor/film which EON have secretly been developing…

    Or something 😉

    I guess it’s possible it’ll be a more major announcement like a tentative release date years from now (or indeed a spin off property of Bond), but I’m more expecting Amazon will give an indication of what they’ll do with Bond/perhaps try to reassure fans of their direction and stewardship. I highly doubt they have a script or actor. We’ll see though.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 17,316
    I'm not sure where it came from but someone said the Amazon deal won't be complete until May, if that's true then there's no chance of any announcements before that.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited March 11 Posts: 8,710
    What about the rumoured Heyman/Cuaron partnership? They'd have to be much farther along than expected to already have that in place already.

    Contrary to popular belief Amazon aren't just a bunch of chumps. They didn't sink almost 10 billion into acquiring this property just to let it sit on the shelf, or they would have just kept the existing working relationship with EON.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
    Posts: 1,689
    I don't think the release date will be the first thing they announce.
  • MalloryMallory
    Posts: 2,205
    I think its too soon.

    No doubt Amazon execs will have seen the (mostly) negative trade and public response to this, so wont want to rush into announcements which are premature.

    Other than a reference to it, I wouldnt expect much comment.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited March 11 Posts: 6,559
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    Is It Feasible for Amazon/MGM to Announce a Bond Release Date at CinemaCon on April 1st?

    With the Amazon/MGM set to present at CinemaCon on April 1, 2025, there’s been a lot of speculation about what they might unveil. Given the current status of the deal, could we realistically see Amazon announce a Bond release date at that time?

    Here's the context:
    1. The Joint Venture Status: We’re all waiting to see how quickly the JV can be finalized. Legal and contractual matters might take time, but if Amazon and MGM have already been preparing behind the scenes, they could expedite the process.
    2. Preliminary Development: For Amazon to announce a release date that soon, it would mean that preliminary development (possibly including a script, treatment, or even early casting) has already been in the works. Without that, an announcement would be premature.
    3. Marketing Strategy: Announcing a date early could be a major power move from Amazon, signaling confidence and showing that they’re ready to take control of the Bond franchise. Studios often announce dates years in advance to assert their stake in a major project, and it could help them attract talent and build momentum.
    4. Targeted Release Window: If an announcement were made, the most likely release window would be 2027 (possibly Fall/Winter).

    While it’s not impossible, an announcement in April 2025 would be highly aggressive and suggest that Amazon has already made significant behind-the-scenes progress, possibly with a script, director, and casting already in place. More likely, Amazon will tease "Bond Returns in 2027" but hold off on a firm date until later in the year or early 2026. If they do announce a date, it will likely be tentative and dependent on behind-the-scenes progress.

    Do you think it’s feasible for Amazon to announce a concrete Bond release date at CinemaCon this April, or is that just too soon given where the JV stands?

    Not a chance. There was a recent Amazon call where they purposely didn't discuss Bond because it needs to stay confidential until the deal closes in May.

    https://deadline.com/2025/03/sxsw-amazon-mgm-studios-theatrical-releases-jennifer-salke-courtenay-valenti-1236314358/
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    I don't think the release date will be the first thing they announce.

    I do. That's the easiest thing for them to schedule, even if the date changes later. They are going to want to move fast after finally gaining control.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited March 11 Posts: 4,753
    It’s quite common for release dates to be the first thing to get announced isn’t it? I mean, they kinda need a deadline to get to a point the project is official and they can begin casting etc (otherwise it’s simply in development limbo).
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,710
    echo wrote: »
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    Is It Feasible for Amazon/MGM to Announce a Bond Release Date at CinemaCon on April 1st?

    With the Amazon/MGM set to present at CinemaCon on April 1, 2025, there’s been a lot of speculation about what they might unveil. Given the current status of the deal, could we realistically see Amazon announce a Bond release date at that time?

    Here's the context:
    1. The Joint Venture Status: We’re all waiting to see how quickly the JV can be finalized. Legal and contractual matters might take time, but if Amazon and MGM have already been preparing behind the scenes, they could expedite the process.
    2. Preliminary Development: For Amazon to announce a release date that soon, it would mean that preliminary development (possibly including a script, treatment, or even early casting) has already been in the works. Without that, an announcement would be premature.
    3. Marketing Strategy: Announcing a date early could be a major power move from Amazon, signaling confidence and showing that they’re ready to take control of the Bond franchise. Studios often announce dates years in advance to assert their stake in a major project, and it could help them attract talent and build momentum.
    4. Targeted Release Window: If an announcement were made, the most likely release window would be 2027 (possibly Fall/Winter).

    While it’s not impossible, an announcement in April 2025 would be highly aggressive and suggest that Amazon has already made significant behind-the-scenes progress, possibly with a script, director, and casting already in place. More likely, Amazon will tease "Bond Returns in 2027" but hold off on a firm date until later in the year or early 2026. If they do announce a date, it will likely be tentative and dependent on behind-the-scenes progress.

    Do you think it’s feasible for Amazon to announce a concrete Bond release date at CinemaCon this April, or is that just too soon given where the JV stands?

    Not a chance. There was a recent Amazon call where they purposely didn't discuss Bond because it needs to stay confidential until the deal closes in May.

    https://deadline.com/2025/03/sxsw-amazon-mgm-studios-theatrical-releases-jennifer-salke-courtenay-valenti-1236314358/
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    I don't think the release date will be the first thing they announce.

    I do. That's the easiest thing for them to schedule, even if the date changes later. They are going to want to move fast after finally gaining control.

    That's why everything to do with Heyman is being talked about as rumour. Nothing can be made official, but a lot is happening behind the scenes.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
    Posts: 1,689
    They need a showrunner first.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,710
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    They need a showrunner first.

    Heyman
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited March 11 Posts: 1,727
    I think this is how it should play out, but I'm not sure:

    1. Deal closes in May.
    2. Next, trade press reports on a rumored/reported showrunner/leader like Amy Pascal or someone (already happening).
    3. Next, writers are announced via trade press reports.
    4. Next, a release date (once they know they have a solid story I'd wager).
    5. Next, some crew like director and producers.
    6. Next, an actor.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited March 11 Posts: 4,753
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    They need a showrunner first.

    Ah fair enough. I guess that’d technically be the first announcement in this situation.
    LucknFate wrote: »
    I think this is how it should play out, but I'm not sure:

    1. Deal closes in May.
    2. Next, trade press reports on a rumored/reported showrunner/leader like Amy Pascal or someone (already happening).
    3. Next, writers are announced via trade press reports.
    4. Next, a release date (once they know they have a solid story I'd wager).
    5. Next, some crew like director and producers.
    6. Next, an actor.

    Sounds about right.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 17,316
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    Is It Feasible for Amazon/MGM to Announce a Bond Release Date at CinemaCon on April 1st?

    With the Amazon/MGM set to present at CinemaCon on April 1, 2025, there’s been a lot of speculation about what they might unveil. Given the current status of the deal, could we realistically see Amazon announce a Bond release date at that time?

    Here's the context:
    1. The Joint Venture Status: We’re all waiting to see how quickly the JV can be finalized. Legal and contractual matters might take time, but if Amazon and MGM have already been preparing behind the scenes, they could expedite the process.
    2. Preliminary Development: For Amazon to announce a release date that soon, it would mean that preliminary development (possibly including a script, treatment, or even early casting) has already been in the works. Without that, an announcement would be premature.
    3. Marketing Strategy: Announcing a date early could be a major power move from Amazon, signaling confidence and showing that they’re ready to take control of the Bond franchise. Studios often announce dates years in advance to assert their stake in a major project, and it could help them attract talent and build momentum.
    4. Targeted Release Window: If an announcement were made, the most likely release window would be 2027 (possibly Fall/Winter).

    While it’s not impossible, an announcement in April 2025 would be highly aggressive and suggest that Amazon has already made significant behind-the-scenes progress, possibly with a script, director, and casting already in place. More likely, Amazon will tease "Bond Returns in 2027" but hold off on a firm date until later in the year or early 2026. If they do announce a date, it will likely be tentative and dependent on behind-the-scenes progress.

    Do you think it’s feasible for Amazon to announce a concrete Bond release date at CinemaCon this April, or is that just too soon given where the JV stands?

    Not a chance. There was a recent Amazon call where they purposely didn't discuss Bond because it needs to stay confidential until the deal closes in May.

    https://deadline.com/2025/03/sxsw-amazon-mgm-studios-theatrical-releases-jennifer-salke-courtenay-valenti-1236314358/
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    I don't think the release date will be the first thing they announce.

    I do. That's the easiest thing for them to schedule, even if the date changes later. They are going to want to move fast after finally gaining control.

    That's why everything to do with Heyman is being talked about as rumour. Nothing can be made official, but a lot is happening behind the scenes.

    Unless it is just a rumour and not true of course.
  • buddyoldchapbuddyoldchap Formerly known as JeremyBondon
    Posts: 291
    I wish we could fast forward to all of the exciting Bond news, wars are behind us and the future looks bright again 😞
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited March 11 Posts: 4,753
    buddyoldchap wrote: »
    I wish we could fast forward to all of the exciting Bond news, wars are behind us and the future looks bright again 😞

    I feel not all of that will coincide in the wider world for the future unfortunately (I can't personally remember the last time was considered bright in the wider world!) But I'm sure there'll be some sort of Bond news this year and things will hopefully get rolling further down the line.
  • Since62Since62
    Posts: 1,695
    [quote="Mendes4

    That's why everything to do with Heyman is being talked about as rumour. Nothing can be made official, BUT A LOT IS HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES. [/quote]

    Scurrying...a lot of scurrying about.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    Posts: 18,514
    Since62 wrote: »
    [quote="Mendes4

    That's why everything to do with Heyman is being talked about as rumour. Nothing can be made official, BUT A LOT IS HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES.

    Scurrying...a lot of scurrying about.
    [/quote]

    Rats scurry. Rats fleeing a sinking ship no doubt.
  • Since62Since62
    Posts: 1,695
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Since62 wrote: »
    [quote="Mendes4

    That's why everything to do with Heyman is being talked about as rumour. Nothing can be made official, BUT A LOT IS HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES.

    Scurrying...a lot of scurrying about.

    Rats scurry. Rats fleeing a sinking ship no doubt. [/quote]

    Rats with laser beams tied to their heads ?
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    Posts: 18,514
    Since62 wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Since62 wrote: »
    [quote="Mendes4

    That's why everything to do with Heyman is being talked about as rumour. Nothing can be made official, BUT A LOT IS HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES.

    Scurrying...a lot of scurrying about.

    Rats scurry. Rats fleeing a sinking ship no doubt.

    Rats with laser beams tied to their heads ?[/quote]

    Do not invoke the name of McClory. It will bring us bad luck!
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 14,170
    To be honest, I generally don't trust anything scheduled for or occurring on 1 April.

  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Being chauffeured by Tibbett
    Posts: 715
    007HallY wrote: »
    Agreed, they're not meant to be too realistic. But the audience has to go along with the story. For me personally, Brosnan's fake beard and appearance takes me out of the film. I don't believe the film is showing me a character who's been imprisoned and tortured for a year. I do, however, believe that Bond has been badly injured and is run down in SF because he looks tired and unshaven and the film is committed to showing the audience his issues, even if he's muscular.

    I agree in part, though I always found Craig's designer stubble in those scenes, quite amusing.

    Brosnan's beard doesn't really bother me. I mean, 14-months without a shave or a haircut? It would be strange if he didn't look like Robinson Crusoe.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,317
    I think the lack of any real location work and an overuse on green screen is one of the biggest sins that DAD commits.
    As Cubby would say, put the money on the screen. Aside from Spain that doubled well for Cuba, most of DAD was shot in England and Wales. It shows, and I think audiences know when they’re being cheated.
    I hope Amazon don’t take that path, and shoot in real locations around the world.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited 12:35pm Posts: 2,321
    I wonder if Amazon would want their Bonds to stay longer like most of EON's, or if they would want brief eras for their Bonds...like moving on to the next actor quickly.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    Posts: 4,753
    I can't see it being a good strategy having short Bond eras. I think they'll want the general public to associate Bond with the official actor and have them in the role a while.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 2,321
    007HallY wrote: »
    I can't see it being a good strategy having short Bond eras. I think they'll want the general public to associate Bond with the official actor and have them in the role a while.

    Yeah. I like that as well.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
    Posts: 1,689
    007HallY wrote: »
    I can't see it being a good strategy having short Bond eras. I think they'll want the general public to associate Bond with the official actor and have them in the role a while.

    People need time to get used to the new face.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
    Posts: 4,231
    peter wrote: »
    I must be the only person on the planet who despises this sword fight. To me it looks like two brats having temper tantrums. They flail about and I felt absolutely zero tension throughout the entire scene.

    Count me in on that opinion..

  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 2,321
    I like DAD's sword fight, though. It's just pure Brosnan's Bond fun.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
    edited 3:48pm Posts: 1,689
    SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ wrote: »
    I like DAD's sword fight, though. It's just pure Brosnan's Bond fun.

    I like it too.

    I always thought Brosnan works better when he tries to be Roger Moore rather than Dalton.
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