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Yes, that was what I was referring to.
Very well could be, but much like a classic poem, there are dozens of interpretations. Never thought I would compare Bond to poetry, but there you go...
Sorry, best I could do! QoS is a very difficult Bond movie to understand, but thankfully plenty of action and a shorter run time keeps us from having to think about it.
Surely the actual age of the actor portraying Bond isn't relevant, clearly Fleming always intended Bond to be in his mid to late thirties, therefore Craig is portraying a man of that age, as was Connery and all those after him.
If the age of the actor was the actual age Bond was supposed to be represented as in each particular movie we'd have had about a dozen different Bond's by now, as Fleming says in Moonraker, the mandatory retirement age for a 00 agent is 45, (Bond admits to being eight years shy of this), we'd hardly of had good old Roger running around trying to save the world two years shy of his sixtieth birthday would we, in fact, we wouldn't have had him at all....
Yes, the age of the actor means nothing. @Commander_Skyfall laid it out beautifully. @DC007, if you think Craig is a "total retard" to be a rookie at 40, Sir Rog must be MI6's resident psychotic. By AVTAK he must have had to escape an asylum before going on his missions because M feared that he would pull his back and have a mental break in the field. That explains the clothes in AVTAK... ;)
James Bond played by Craig was born in april 1968, thus he was 38 in the film... I don't buy for one second that he would be promoted as a 00-agent at that age, while Connery had already a few years as 00 in DN when he was only 31 ! Craig just looks too old and too mature to be playing a rookie, and he doesn't look like the type to be having such erratic behavior...
That's pretty much summed up my whole point, Connery's Bond wasn't 31, Connery was, he was portraying a chracter in his mid to late Thirties, who, throughout the books, doesn't rally age, that's why he was a great choice for the role, he could do several movies and remain visually within the correct age range.
Craig's Bond is only a rookie to the intelligence service. He's not really a rookie, thanks to his years in the Royal Navy.
And, as already stated, Connery was playing a man who was 38, even though he was only 31.
As @Agent007391 says, there was a great website when CR came out that had Bond's full service record, revised to suit the re-boot, here it is:
http://www.sonypictures.com/homevideo/casinoroyale/
'Enter' the site and click on Dossier, Bond's full service record is here, (it is indeed Naval), as well as all sorts of other interesting facts, I actually thought this site was a brilliant way to help explain the back story to the re-booted character and quite cleverly done. Enjoy, it's a good read.
Exactly. Fleming’s Bond would never of broken into a M’s flat, for example.
I agree with this point. I've always hated this scene, one of the worst in the film. Bond just wouldn't do this.
I must admit even though I really like CR I agree. It just doesn't strike me as something the original character would have done - break into his bosses flat to prove a point. More likely he'd phone her.
Vesper simply assumed he was like a former SAS type, not actually sure if he was.
Exactly, she assumed it... She hadn't the clearance to knowing such things.
I'm not saying she KNEW he was but, from what we'd seen of him up until that point, he'd demonstrated physical skills similar to that of an SAS officer. He's (reasonably) young and extremely atheletic.
well he is blonde...after all :P oh and the refrence to the SAS stuff is that i read that they changed his backstory to fit with the modern day version- which i think is retarded given that that makes Bond now a cliched action star like all the american heroes....
Bond like all the american heroes? i think that's fit perfectly with Brosnan's Bond.
Cinematopgraphy: Quantum of Solace
Production Design: Quantum of Solace
Bond girls: Quantum of Solace
Casting: Quantum of Solace
Editing: Quantum of Solace. Whyle QOS need some inprovements, i don't like a big part of the editing of DAD.
Second United directer: Quantum Of Solace.
Not easy because i like the swordfight, car chase and surfing, but dislike the scene with water surfinger. The horse scene of QOS i like so muuch as the swordfight of DAD. But QOS have some extra action scene's who have more control or i like more then the one from DAD and that's why i vote for QOS. Example whyle i think the hotel scene is stil not very good i think it is better then Cuba.
Maintitle: Quantum of Solace. Daniel Kleinman did a great job for DAD and i like the original of it, but i like it that like the one from CR it predict the future. Also i like the yolt elements.
Title song: Die Another Day
Pre-title: Die Another Day. Whyle i like the car chase, i vote for DAD because it have some good spy elements.
End (Bond with Jinx or Bond with M): Bond with M. Nice reference to OHMSS and a great music of David Arnold.
Well Craig's Bond was born in 1968, and CR took place in 2006, so his rookie Bond was 38.
When did they say this? Im not going by the online doissiers.
How can you disregard the online dossier ?? It's the official Craig's Bond biography, so Craig Bond was indeed 38 in CR. I don't see how it's possible to argue with the official resume of Craig's Bond.
Some people go by the idea that if it isn't in the film then it isn't real...
There was a great article I read some time ago (I can't remember where) that talked about the difference in portrayals of action heroes over the years. One thing that stood out for me was how the prime demographic for films (16 to 25 year old American boys) don't accept characters who are respectful of authority as much as characters who rebel against it or are "bad-ass". Of course, this fits in with they way they behave themselves (the cliched - but true - rebellious teenager) or even more importantly see themselves. In the 60s it was common to have characters be very respectful of authority and follow the rules and a couple of examples were Connery's Bond (who could be cheeky but had a great respect for M) and Captain Kirk. Compare that to the latest version of Kirk we got in Abrams film! It started to change in the late 60s, and continued through the 70s but according to the article in really took off in the 80s. That was when a lot of action heroes went from cheeky or "lone wolf" to outright cocky.
Two things that I was thinking about yesterday - I got talking to a young woman in the armed forces and she was telling me stories about how "SAS types" do indeed have that kind of attitude that Craig's Bond had in CR. Having had friends and family members in various forces she was just confirming what I already knew (and she was speaking about a specific type of person, not all people in the forces). But also, listening to some of the young guys in my gym (even guys in their twenties who are now working for big companies) they do indeed always love and identify with (even if I don't think they're at all tough or bad-ass) those cocky bad-ass characters, especially when they do something that humiliates another character or shows the authority figures that they were right and the authority figures were wrong.
Given all that, I don't think that they've pushed Bond *too* far in that direction, just enough to make him a bit more appealing than previous versions. It will be interesting to see if this is a trait that continues or is softened over time.
That's the problem I have with Craigs Bond, he's too immature to have come through the SAS. I would have expected them to have drilled that unruly and immature attitude out of him. And then he looks too old to be an MI6 recruit.
Except, as has been mentioned a few times, according to his official (eon produced) online service record, he was never in the SAS....
i think i also find it impossible to believe that REAL MI6 member act like James Bond we know.
Craig's Bond is mature enough not to ride on a cello