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Quite. Craig is "damaged goods", at least on this forum. Which is a shame because I really warmed to him in Spectre.
We may see him back yet, @royale65. I'd say it's far more likely than not. And then we'll have to hear the same group who wanted another Bond film the second they left SP whine about how they want old Bond back and how it has ruined their lives to see Dan back again for another movie. If people are delusional enough to make up in their minds that an actor has retired from the role before said actor has said anything near official or unofficial, I shall not pity them when their false expectations explode in their face. People take this stuff too seriously, and attach a sense of villainy on Dan and EON for not being able to go back in time and stop distribution deals from needing sorted, or for not slaving to give them the films they want when they want them.
Perhaps we should create a "Find Your Hobby" thread on the main page, seeing as some look like they need one desperately. I call knitting, so I can make some Bond related sweaters in time for the winter holiday.
That said, debates about Craig happen all the time here and some choose black and some choose white and most choose grey. But must that make us uncomfortable to hang around? Again, a bit dramatic to feel unaccepted or targeted simply because of some Craig criticism, no? In a certain thread here, I'm having rather harsh debates with @Dragonpol and @Mendes4Lyfe, but I agree with both lads on many things in many other threads, and I still call them good friends. A difference of opinion is only that; it's not a war declaration nor a sign of being persona non grata.
The problem isn't so much the fact of agreeing or disagreeing with Craig as Bond and, worse, of not being allowed to disagree with Craig as Bond or to criticise aspects of his acting and films and whatnot. The problem is overestimating an Internet forum as a gathering of like minded folks who will not stand up for their darlings nor shove a fist in those of someone else. Those things happen because that is what an Internet forum is built on.
And in the end, "I can't say anything bad about so and so because then I'll get an entire fan club against me" is a little bit contradictory in itself. If you want to speak up, others have the right to do so too. Action and reaction. The attacker will get the defenders breathing down his neck and vice versa. So please, let us all stop being overly dramatic. Yes, this forum has many Craig fans, but if you don't like Craig, you can be a part of this forum just as well. Perhaps the many Craig fans have a slightly easier time radiating their love for Craig, than a Craig critic for pointing out his flaws; but in the end, everyone gets to have their saying and if things turn really caustic, contact a mod. Regardless of our personal feelings about Craig, we shan't tolerate bullying from any front.
The whole, "I don't like the general consensus here so I'm leaving now" thing has never sat well with me. We have hundreds of threads where Craig couldn't possibly be included, where we celebrate our love for all things Bond. Bond is the key to this forum, not whether more or less than 95 % of the members agrees or disagrees with how you're feeling. Let Craig be popular here, it's a reflection of his popularity as Bond outside of this forum too so that is to be expected. Speak your mind, agree to disagree if needs be, and move on. Otherwise, Internet forums, except for the extremely niche ones, are going to always upset you in one way or another. Fan-based unity is never absolute nor 100 %, especially in as rich a series as the Bond series. We know that overtime things can change. Just look at how many here love Lazenby and Dalton, and how many have openly stated a lack of affection for Connery's later work. We haven't even started assessing Craig's tenure in full. Some really exciting times await us vis-à-vis our thoughts on Craig. Many here loved Brosnan, until Craig came. Many of those have since renewed their love for Brosnan, despite Craig. Let's see what happens when the next bloke dons the tux.
But I still see no reason why one should flee the ship over something as petty as that. If I may use a much hated phrase, "We're all friends here."
Except @Creasy47. I call him my Master. And @MajorDSmythe. I call him Machete.
And here is Creasy
One of the most interesting in discussion, his presence will be missed.
*Swallows*
Oh I'm sorry, I was still chewing on some flies.
I know how you feel, @BondJasonBond006 . I genuinely like parts of SP, and prefer the film overall, to the previous three films. But because such an opinion is in a minority, that is no reason why you must feel like you should leave. I mean, there's far more to Bond than just the Craig films, to keep you here. If it's a matter of interest (which again, trust me, I know how you feel, 2012-2015 marked the lowest point of my interest in the films, I didn't even bother to see SP on the big screen) or you feel like you need a break. Then that's fine, we all need a break, some time to recharge, from time to time. Just don't feel like you are being pushed out, or are alone. Other people will feel the same way about many different aspects of the world of Bond.
Well you're certainly not helping whatever this is by saying goodbye, then coming back, then saying goodbye, then coming back... It's a hot and cold situation that confuses the hell out of me, so it's only natural I'd get lost.
@jake24, apparently we're reading too much into it. But what "it" is, I've no idea.
Your funeral, Brady.
Joke's on you, @DarthDimi. I don't go anywhere near storm drains. And even if I did, my love of Joker since childhood has taken all the scare out of clowns that kids seem to have, normalizing the theatrical make-up for me forever.
So, ha!
That's it! I'm leaving!
Uh... for a quick toilet break. I'll be back in a minute.
No you aren't! Not before composing a drawn out and overly dramatic goodbye that is really just a prelude to the actual goodbye that will come a few posts after this. Don't you know how things are done here?
After all these years, I still haven't found the bar, so no.
If you're talking about "the bar" as an object, it's set so low at this point that it's easy to miss, unless you trip on it. If you're talking about "the bar" as a recreational outlet for brewing permanent life mistakes, it's right next to the entrance to the troll dungeons where all our past spamming members now degrade into nothingness from their scrunched in cells.
You won't like the bar, though. All they serve are nasty health shakes with kelp, and the last guy that came by to taste one told the bartender to cut out the middle man and give it a flush. Whatever that means.