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  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    Zardoz is a unique experience. ;)
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @MajorDSmythe, had my "film buff" friend ask me this morning who Charlotte Rampling is...
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @MajorDSmythe, had my "film buff" friend ask me this morning who Charlotte Rampling is...

    @Creasy47, show him the picture of Charlotte nude sitting upright on that table, and I'm sure he'll have her committed to memory for life. ;)
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @MajorDSmythe, had my "film buff" friend ask me this morning who Charlotte Rampling is...

    @Creasy47, show him the picture of Charlotte nude sitting upright on that table, and I'm sure he'll have her committed to memory for life. ;)
    That's so sexist.



    What picture...
    :-\"
  • SarkSark Guangdong, PRC
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    Since Mi6 has people everywhere, how'd the weather in your corner of the world? Here it's rainy with a high of about 17c.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I'll be sure to do this!!
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Sark wrote: »
    Since Mi6 has people everywhere, how'd the weather in your corner of the world? Here it's rainy with a high of about 17c.

    -14,2 outside and snow.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @MajorDSmythe, had my "film buff" friend ask me this morning who Charlotte Rampling is...

    That should be a punishable offense.
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @MajorDSmythe, had my "film buff" friend ask me this morning who Charlotte Rampling is...

    @Creasy47, show him the picture of Charlotte nude sitting upright on that table, and I'm sure he'll have her committed to memory for life. ;)

    Show him that picture, and he'll have a slight stiffness come on, in the shoulder.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @MajorDSmythe, had my "film buff" friend ask me this morning who Charlotte Rampling is...

    That's the problem with some film buffs - they know everything about films since their birth year. Before that they know Clint Eastwood, and have vaguely heard of John Wayne.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Sark wrote: »
    Since Mi6 has people everywhere, how'd the weather in your corner of the world? Here it's rainy with a high of about 17c.
    Snow. Just snow.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    NicNac wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @MajorDSmythe, had my "film buff" friend ask me this morning who Charlotte Rampling is...

    That's the problem with some film buffs - they know everything about films since their birth year. Before that they know Clint Eastwood, and have vaguely heard of John Wayne.

    Sad but true. He still considers himself one, even though his field of view with cinema is very, very, very small, and limited to a select section of films. It's why I never take his opinions or thoughts seriously on any movie.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    NicNac wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @MajorDSmythe, had my "film buff" friend ask me this morning who Charlotte Rampling is...

    That's the problem with some film buffs - they know everything about films since their birth year. Before that they know Clint Eastwood, and have vaguely heard of John Wayne.

    Sad but true. He still considers himself one, even though his field of view with cinema is very, very, very small, and limited to a select section of films. It's why I never take his opinions or thoughts seriously on any movie.

    @Creasy47, what are your friend's thoughts on "Citizen Kane," "Casablanca" and other classic films of that time? Or as some people I know would call them, "those black and white things." #-o
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 I watched 'Citizen Kane' and 'Casablanca' for the first time in 2015. Absolutely splendid films.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Couldn't tell ya, he hasn't seen any of the old classics. Pretty much anything relatively old, he hasn't seen.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Couldn't tell ya, he hasn't seen any of the old classics. Pretty much anything relatively old, he hasn't seen.

    Yikes. And he really thinks he's some kind of cinematic connoisseur?
    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 I watched 'Citizen Kane' and 'Casablanca' for the first time in 2015. Absolutely splendid films.

    @DaltonCraig007, fantastic! Doesn't get much better than Welles at his best or Bogart doing what Bogart did best, which was basically everything. Easily my favorite actor of that special era.

    I know you're currently catching up on a lot of TV, but I could give you some great classic film recommendations if you like. I've seen a fair bit of Bogart and Welles' work of that period especially, if you fancied them.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 My watch list is huuuge, but I would very much like to have you recommend some classics, as I know you have splendid taste!
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Has anyone here seen the reconstructed version of Touch Of Evil?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7, he tries to, but his big thing seems to be music, so I never stop letting him know that he knows almost nothing when it comes to cinema. Then again, this is also the guy who knows 'everything about music,' and yet he hates jazz and knows nothing about it. Not too bright, that one.

    @DaltonCraig007, that's my watch list: ever-growing, and never to be completed. It's a shame, really, because there are probably countless classics and really enjoyable films on there that I'll never get to see all of.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    @DaltonCraig007, I am still very much developing in my love of classic films, but I can point you in the direction of some of the films I've watched over the past few years that I think would be right up your alley.

    As far as Bogie goes, my specialty, the main films I'd recommend to start off experiencing his work are "The Maltese Falcon," "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre," "To Have and Have Not," "The Big Sleep," "and "In a Lonely Place." "Falcon" is a classic noir with Bogie as Sam Spade, the famous fictional private investigator, and is simply a stunning film to take in. The cast is a masterclass, with talents like Peter Lorre and Sydney Greenstreet teaming up with Bogart a year before they all came together for "Casablanca."

    "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre" and "In a Lonely Place," though diverse in setting and theme both display Bogie's startling range as a performer. You watch him over time morph and adapt in who he is as a man, his characters crumbling under the pressures of the world around them as well as their own demons. "Sierra Madre" might be my favorite Bogie performance I've seen yet, in fact.

    Finally, "To Have and Have Not" and "The Big Sleep" showcase Bogart with his on and offscreen love, the indelible Ms. Lauren Bacall. The two met when Bogie was 44 and she was just 19 on the set of "To Have and Have Not" and fell fast in love. In each movie they star in together, a total of four features, you can see the chemistry bubbling between them. "To Have and Have Not" is unremarkable in most respects, but it's a treat to experience because you literally watch a man and woman fall in love on celluloid. "The Big Sleep" is an infamous mess of a noir, where nobody from the director to the screenwriter (including noir writer Raymond Chandler himself) knew what the hell was going on in the film plot wise. It's known amongst the film loving community as a movie impossible to explain to people because of its all-over-the-place plot, but again, watch it for Bogart and Bacall's chemistry. They're an absolute knock-out and you'll see why they fell in love with each other. In their love scenes they never acted a second.

    For Welles, two I can recommend to start are "The Third Man" and "The Lady From Shanghai." "The Third Man" is a top 10 noir film with a complex and fascinating set of characters set against a post war Vienna. It's an atmospheric, thrilling and mysterious slow burn with the amazing Joseph Cotten reuniting with Orson following "Kane." It's a wonderfully complex mystery where nothing is what it seems, all with the bizarre yet wonderful score accompanying the action, all created using a zither, an instrument you'll grow to love after watching it. The film is so off-set/eschew, from the direction and camerawork (lots of dutch angles) to the characters in the story itself. Don't look up anything about the movie before watching it. You'll want to experience this one blind, including two scenes in particular that are for my money some of the greatest acted and shot sequences to come out of that entire era.

    "The Lady From Shanghai" while not to the level of "The Third Man" is still worth a watch. Orson is directing and writing another slow burner mystery, with Rita Hayworth as a drop dead femme fatale that'll make your heart stop. Women like her, Lauren Bacall, Katharine Hepburn and Marilyn Monroe made me lament the heavy loss of the special beauty that women of that time had. Knock-outs, every one of them. Again, "Shanghai" contains classic scenes in it that have been aped in popular film since, including an interesting climax. A great watch, indeed.

    Lastly, if you're not familiar with Marilyn Monroe, I'd point you in the direction of "Some Like it Hot," "Gentlemen Prefer Blondes," "The Seven Year Itch" and "Niagara." "Some Like it Hot" is often rightfully picked as the best classic era comedy. Jack Lemmon and Tony Curtis come together to deliver a black comedy of epic proportions. It is on a separate level to other comedies out there, and still holds up.

    "Gentleman Prefer Blondes" shows off Marilyn's screen presence and singing talents, with many musical numbers with here in the center. She's drop dead gorgeous in it alongside the equally lovely Jane Russell as the two deliver stunning comedy performances. It's often hard to focus on the plot as these two beauties command the screen.

    "The Seven Year Itch" is a comedy on the level of "Some Like it Hot," both by the incomparable Billy Wilder, with Marilyn as an unbelievably entertaining symbol of sexy temptation to Tom Ewell's goofy protagonist. You will seldom have a funner time with a classic comedy than with this gem.

    Finally, "Niagara" is a film where Marilyn was able to get away from the pretty dumb blonde roles she was oft cast in to play a far more complex character, which she does beautifully. After watching other films of hers you'll be shocked to find just how different she feels in her presence in this film. She shows you that she's far more than a pretty face, fully capable of playing flawed, twisted characters. I wish she'd gotten more chances to do this kind of work before her untimely death. Joseph Cotten of "The Third Man" and "Kane" also makes an appearance, cementing it as a "must watch."

    Every Marilyn viewing should come with a warning, however, which I'll give to you now: You WILL fall in deep, entrancing love with this woman, and you will wish nothing more than to travel back in time to her arms. It's a danger to fall down the rabbit hole of her filmography for this reason, but rest assured, the pain is worth the pleasure. ;)
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Thanks! All added to my watchlist. :)
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Scanned over @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7's list (about to leave for the movies, will read into it later), and yes, 'The Seven Year Itch' is wonderful, a great mixture of comedy and romance alongside some legends.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    Has anyone here seen the reconstructed version of Touch Of Evil?

    I've yet to see Touch of Evil, I think for the same reason I haven't seen Blade Runner. I don't know which cut/version is best to watch. Can you enlighten me, @chrisisall, so I can remedy it soon?
    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Thanks! All added to my watchlist. :)

    @DaltonCraig007, great! Let me know your thoughts when you give any of them a watch.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    I've yet to see Touch of Evil, I think for the same reason I haven't seen Blade Runner. I don't know which cut/version is best to watch.
    http://www.amazon.com/Touch-Evil-Blu-ray-Orson-Welles/dp/B00I3C1T1Q/ref=sr_1_2?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1452891136&sr=1-2&keywords=touch+of+evil
    That's the REAL version. The theatrical was the studio f**king it up (and it was STILL good!).
    And Blade Runner's best version is either the International '82 cut, or the Final Cut, depending on your take on it. Most who did not see the narrated version as their first viewing will probably prefer the narration-less Final Cut. Just get the package that contains them all like I did. :P
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Thanks for the link, @chrisisall. Sadly Orson's brilliance was often hacked to pieces by the studio system. A true tragedy that such genius met constant creative opposition.

    As for Blade Runner, am I to assume that the "Final Cut" is an edit of the movie by Ridley himself as he saw the film being in his original vision?
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Thanks for the link, @chrisisall. Sadly Orson's brilliance was often hacked to pieces by the studio system. A true tragedy that such genius met constant creative opposition.

    As for Blade Runner, am I to assume that the "Final Cut" is an edit of the movie by Ridley himself as he saw the film being in his original vision?
    Yes. But it's really not all that different from the others except in the removal of the narration, and the rather abrupt ending.
  • edited January 2016 Posts: 4,813
    Maybe you guys can help me with something- I've been on here long enough to trust your opinions!
    I'm getting married next April, and I need a groomsmen gift. Now, we're all nerds deep down, but probably most of all me, so I wanted to run this idea by you and see if it's awesome or ridiculous.

    I was thinking it would be cool to get all of us matching LIGHTSABERS, with their name engraved. There's this website, ultrasabers, where you can get pretty much any style and color you can think of (I already have an ESB Luke one myself)
    I figure it's normal to get matching watches or something like that... so why not a damn lightsaber I figure? :))

    What do you think? (honest and brutal please) Great idea or terrible idea?

    Lightsabers.jpg
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    I'd say it's a great idea for something a little different, @Master_Dahark, although I've never seen Stars Wars. I say go for it! :)
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @Master_Dahark, I think it's a wonderful idea, as well, that'll satisfy the inner nerd in all of your friends. If they're all Bond fans, you could also try and go with a SPECTRE ring that could be personally engraved on the inside? Just a thought, could be very cool!
    (Gulp) Ok I just wet ahead and placed the order. My poor wallet!
    :-&

    They're going to have a heart attack though! A month or two ago I messaged them 'What's your favorite color? It's... for the wedding.' LOL!

    Everyone picked blue ~X( 8-|
    Then later I asked 'black or chrome?'

    At least now there's some variety, lol

    Here's the one I got (available in black or chrome, with a blade of any color you could possibly want):

    chrome_zps2x86csmz.jpgblack_zpsdxm7rost.jpg

    Once they come, I'm going to attach some little D-Rings to the bottom (surprisingly they weren't included) so they can hang on the belt like in the movie
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 better get around to watching 'Blade Runner' very, very soon, or I'll be upset.

    My favorite cut is the Final Cut, I'd say, but they all start to blend together after a while and it's tough to differentiate between which is which without going online and comparing them. There are so many different cuts of the film, though, you're always going to get a radically different experience and an altered ending. Go with the Final Cut, see how you feel about it, and perhaps check out one of the others sometime soon after to see which you prefer more.

    'Blade Runner' is one of those rare movies that totally and utterly floored and moved me when I first saw it. I had nothing on my mind but that movie the first week after I saw it, it's all I could think about.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    @chrisisall, @Creasy47, thanks, lads. It's quite the intimidating film to face because of the many versions of it out there. All right, the Final Cut it is. At least now I know what I'm looking for. ;)
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7, that's completely understandable, because I made a blind buy of the blu-ray a few years back and you don't know how long it took me to finally open it up and select one of the versions after looking up non-spoiler differences amongst all of them over and over again. I think I finally had to ask someone on the forums their thoughts (Dimi, perhaps?) on which cut I should start with, and I went from there.

    Hopefully you enjoy the Final Cut and the film in general! Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.
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