Skyfall Wins Bond's First Grammy -Make That Two Grammy's

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  • edited January 2013 Posts: 11,119
    Creasy47 wrote:
    I skimmed through the last two pages, and I surmise people are fighting again over what it did/didn't win? This is how the Box Office Total thread turned out, and in the end, who cares anymore? It received eight nominations. We should be happy it was recognized in such a way to win so many.

    Some people are never satisfied, even when given some of the best. Skyfall finished off 2012 with a bang, receiving love from critics and fans alike in Bond's 50th year on screen. Skyfall has shown us that the future looks bright with great performances given all around, deep plot and drama, technical awes like Deakin's cinematography, jaw dropping locales and Mendes all at the helm. One of Bond's greatest years where even more fans have been drawn in by a film that has something for everyone. It is a super box office success, meaning word spread and people were willing to see it again and again, as well as that it is a film you want to keep seeing time after time. It is addictive, thrilling, and a behemoth of Bond cinema with a perfect mix of drama, laughs and action. Yes? What did you say?...Excuse me-

    ...What did you say? It got a few big snubs at the BAFTAS? Oh, well that just cancels all that stuff out then... 8-|

    Very well said Sir. I dont think I've ever written that about one of your posts before!! ;)

    Cant wait till SF gets ignored by the Oscars - its really going to kick off on here when the nominations come out!

    You are weird...you know :-). Be prepared for exactly the opposite then. 'Skyfall' will become as of tomorrow the Bond film with the most critically acclaimed recognition ever; true, deserved recognition from the Academy of Motion Picture Arts. And be prepared that, whatever nomination 'Skyfall' will get, reality and, its logical result, positivity, will kick in on this topic. So your wishful thinking might be forgotten by then ;-).
    MrBond wrote:
    I'm happy that SF actually got nominated. And in the right departments too, it is 8 nominations.. Which means, 8 possible wins. Right? ;)

    Well.....that's the spirit ;-).

    Dont get me wrong Gustav I certainly wont mind if SF picks up the odd oscar but what do you seriously think is going to happen tomorrow? SF is going to sweep the board with best picture, best director and best actor nods? If it didnt happen at the BAFTAs I cant see why the yanks would do that. I'll happily admit I'm wrong tomorrow if it does but any nominations more than song, cinematography and a handful of technical categories will be a massive bonus.

    Do you actually...read my predictions? If 'yes', then you know I think 'Best Actor' and 'Best Director' nods are out of the question. If 'no', then here I go again:
    Skyfall Oscar Predictions:

    Almost certain:
    --> Best Cinematography (Top favourite if you ask me)
    --> Best Original Song (Allthough stiff competition from Hugh Jackman's song 'Suddenly' for 'Les Miserables)
    --> Best Sound Mixing (Norman Wanstall, the 'Man of the Bond Sounds' would have been jealous of Scott Millan's work. Underestimated technical Oscar category)
    --> Best Sound Editing (Norman Wanstall, the 'Man of the Bond Sounds' would have been jealous of Scott Millan's work. Underestimated technical Oscar category)

    Strong Possibility:
    --> Best Supporting Actor (SAG/Critics Choice combo: yes. But BAFTA is usually bit too British in its choices = not the best accurate predictor for the Oscars. And Javier is not nominated for a Golden Globe. Also watch out for Leonardo DiCaprio and Alan Arkin.)
    --> Best Picture (The Producer's Guild Awards are very good predictors. Before June this year the Academy would choose 10 nominees for this category (since 2009). But as of June this year the Academy decided that the amount of nominations can vary between 5 and 10, provided that the film earned 5% of first-place votes during the nomination process. This could be a hard task, but we will see.)

    Slight Possibility:
    --> Best Film Editing (Outside chance for Stuart Baird and Kate Baird, BUT do not forget from the action blockbusters, 'Skyfall' has the best chance)
    --> Best Visual Effects

    Long Shots:
    --> Best Original Music Score
    --> Best Production Design
    --> Best Director
    --> Best Adapted Screenplay

    I am quiteee cautious with my prediction. The BAFTA's, I said it on numerous occasions, is NOT the best predictor for the Oscar nom's for 'Skyfall' this year. 'Best Director', 'Best Original Score', 'Best Production Design' and even 'Best Editing' for 'Skyfall' on this year's BAFTA list of nominations......I find that way too much BAFTA-glory if you ask me. And 'Skyfall' only got nominated in these categories because of the 'Britishness'. In my opinion there are way better movies in these categories.

    But still, and that is something I have said before as well, 'Skyfall' gets the most serious Oscar buzz ever in the history of Bond. 'Casino Royale' was ignored completely, but also because Sony was stupid enough to not heavily promote the film for 'Your Consideration' audiences. With 'Skyfall' that's completely different. Even the Academy this year puts 'Skyfall' as centerpiece event of their Oscar-show. This is extra attention/promotion, even for the people voting in the various Oscar categories.

    Also, for a Bond film, nominations in the Screen Actors Guild Awards (1 nomination, Javier Bardem), the Critics Choice Awards (4 nominations, Judi Dench, Javier Bardem, Roger Deakins, Adele), the Golden Globes (1 nomination), the Producers Guild Awards (1 nomination, Barbara Broccoli & Michael Wilson), the LA Film Critics Awards (1 WIN for Roger Deakins) and the Las Vegas Film Critics Awards (1 WIN for Adele) are truly unique. 'Casino Royale' could not hit that score off. And the nominations/wins in these awards are much better predictors for the Oscars than the BAFTA's if you ask me.

    Now about the categories. For God sake, let's show some respect for the various categories in the awards. Especially the technical awards, which we call 'minor' in a belittling way. I think 'Best Cinematography', 'Best Sound' (Mixed & Edited), 'Best Original Song' are truly wunderful categories. The amount of work the crew did to eventually get these nominations should be treated with much more respect on here. For me, a technical Oscar for a Bond film feels more or less the same like winning a 'Best Picture' Oscar for a movie like 'American Beauty'.

    Back to the predictions. IndieWire goes actually a bit further for their predictions for tomorrow's Oscar nominations. SIX in total, plus an option to even SEVEN or EIGHT nominations: http://www.indiewire.com/article/for-your-consideration-final-predictions-for-the-most-unpredictable-oscar-nominations-in-year?page=1#articleHeaderPanel
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    Posts: 12,480
    I do think Oscar nominations for:
    cinematography
    best supporting actor
    best supporting actress
    best original song

    Possible for:
    best picture (especially since it went to between 5 and 10)


    I personally think it will win for cinematography, but that is the only one I am willing to bet on. Bardem is a close second. The academy is sentimental and therefore I think Judi will be nominated. I'd be really happy if she won. (I am sitting here trying to think of her competition ...)

    I would LOVE for Craig to be nominated as best actor not just for the Oscars but for many awards. As we all like to give our opinions, please note this is all my personal opinion and guesses. For Craig's performance as Bond, I do think it is Oscar worthy, Golden Globe worthy. I feel he was as good in Skyfall as in Casino Royale, I really do - and that is to say very good acting indeed, bringing something to that role that is special. But to nominate a Bond actor is a huge leap most awards, maybe even especially the Oscars, won't take. Just my guess.

  • Best cinemagically will go to life of pi my friend. Bond will come away with one win from the oscars and that will be for Adele.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    Do you actually...read my predictions? If 'yes', then you know I think 'Best Actor' and 'Best Director' nods are out of the question. If 'no', then here I go again:
    Skyfall Oscar Predictions:

    Almost certain:
    --> Best Cinematography (Top favourite if you ask me)
    --> Best Original Song (Allthough stiff competition from Hugh Jackman's song 'Suddenly' for 'Les Miserables)
    --> Best Sound Mixing (Norman Wanstall, the 'Man of the Bond Sounds' would have been jealous of Scott Millan's work. Underestimated technical Oscar category)
    --> Best Sound Editing (Norman Wanstall, the 'Man of the Bond Sounds' would have been jealous of Scott Millan's work. Underestimated technical Oscar category)

    Strong Possibility:
    --> Best Supporting Actor (SAG/Critics Choice combo: yes. But BAFTA is usually bit too British in its choices = not the best accurate predictor for the Oscars. And Javier is not nominated for a Golden Globe. Also watch out for Leonardo DiCaprio and Alan Arkin.)
    --> Best Picture (The Producer's Guild Awards are very good predictors. Before June this year the Academy would choose 10 nominees for this category (since 2009). But as of June this year the Academy decided that the amount of nominations can vary between 5 and 10, provided that the film earned 5% of first-place votes during the nomination process. This could be a hard task, but we will see.)

    Slight Possibility:
    --> Best Film Editing (Outside chance for Stuart Baird and Kate Baird, BUT do not forget from the action blockbusters, 'Skyfall' has the best chance)
    --> Best Visual Effects

    Long Shots:
    --> Best Original Music Score
    --> Best Production Design
    --> Best Director
    --> Best Adapted Screenplay

    And I am quiteee cautious with my prediction. IndieWire goes a bit further:

    I presume you are talking nominations here rather than wins?

    Theres only song and cinematography I am pretty much certain are nailed on but as you say a few 'boring' categories like sound and editing are likely.

    Supporting actor and actress I would say are rather long shots and even if they get nominated not a sniff of winning as they arent going to give a foreigner another Oscar for another villainous turn and Judi is there every year so they are pretty bored of her. Director and screenplay - no chance.
    Picture - its possible if as you say only 5% is required but unlikely it will get even that.
    Stuff like production design and score have as good a chance as anyone of getting a nomination.

    As for actual wins? Song and cinematography and perhaps a few of the technical ones although for me none of these are really indicative of the quality of the film. DAD could easily have won for song (if it hadnt been shite), sound and editing say but it wouldnt stop it being a shambles. These technical ones are a nice little bonus but hardly a good film make. Look at TB - picked up an Oscar but its extremely average in the departments that matter.

    Nonetheless I will of course be cheering for bond come Oscar night (assuming it actually gets any nominations of course!).
  • Posts: 11,119
    I presume you are talking nominations here rather than wins?

    Duhh!! That's what we are discussing no :-)? Let's talk about the winning chances once the nominations are in. Actually winning it is a different story. So far I have only been talking about 'Skyfall' actually being nominated. And an Oscar Nomination for an action blockbuster has a similar 'promotion weight' to the actual Oscar Win for a original drama, like 'Crash' or 'American Beauty'. Do not forget: The last time a Bond film got nominated for an Oscar was a whopping 31 years (!!) ago, with 'For Your Eyes Only' (1981).

  • Posts: 11,119
    Best cinemagically will go to life of pi my friend. Bond will come away with one win from the oscars and that will be for Adele.

    Ah!! Interesting ;-). Yes, I do think Claudio Miranda's cinematography for 'Life Of Pi' is Roger Deakins biggest competitor in the same category. But eventually I think Roger Deakins will win. Roger has been nominated so many times and also lost so many times. Combined with the Bond buzz helping 'Skyfall' to become a Billion Dollar Bond, it will be helping Roger more than Claudio. But yes, exciting this category will be next month ;-)!
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
    Posts: 4,012
    Eight nominations is rather good, I must say. I am surprised by the absence in the best film category and best actor. After that British artist of the year bafta I would have bet he would be nominated and I honestly think he deserved it but let's look at it on a different way, perhaps this will encourage Craig to surpass himself in the next Bond :>
    Let's see what happens in the Oscar nominations tomorrow, I'm not getting my hopes very high but we might very well be surprised (I would love to).
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
    Posts: 2,044
    Which time tomorrow will the nominations be revealed?
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited January 2013 Posts: 13,355
    Sandy wrote:
    Eight nominations is rather good, I must say. I am surprised by the absence in the best film category and best actor. After that British artist of the year bafta I would have bet he would be nominated and I honestly think he deserved it but let's look at it on a different way, perhaps this will encourage Craig to surpass himself in the next Bond :>
    Let's see what happens in the Oscar nominations tomorrow, I'm not getting my hopes very high but we might very well be surprised (I would love to).

    Remember we only need four nominations - and two wins - for an all round new record.
    MrBond wrote:
    Which time tomorrow will the nominations be revealed?

    5:30 a.m. PST
  • Can't believe Newman was nominated. Probably the weakest part of SF imo, and I think Arnold was much better overall.
  • They are announced at 5:30 am Los Angeles time. So adjust accordingly.
  • Can't believe Newman was nominated. Probably the weakest part of SF imo, and I think Arnold was much better overall.

    Seconded. Clearly BAFTA heard something I didn't.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited January 2013 Posts: 28,694
    I agree with @TheWizardOfIce from a page ago. You all have too much hope in us Yanks to deliver nominations. Expect disappointment. As I theorized, the Oscars doing this Bond tribute may be their way of saying "here, we recognized you. Now go away, we have awards to give out!" I am just saying that if you don't expect much, you lose nothing if Skyfall gets snubbed. If Skyfall does succeed in getting some great nods, then you are surprised and happy.
  • I agree with you @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7. Especially the part about the tribute being used as the acknowledgement.

    That said, I do realistically expect 4 nominations - Cinematography, Song, Sound Effects Editing and Sound Mixing. Anything else would be a bit of a surprise, but a welcome one.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,959
    I'm only really expecting noms for Cinematography and Song - that's it. Anything else will be an incredibly welcome surprise. It seems Bardem has a chance for a Best Supporting Actor nomination, but I'm not going to sit here and expect it. The less you expect, the bigger possibility of a better outcome.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    I agree with you @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7. Especially the part about the tribute being used as the acknowledgement.

    That said, I do realistically expect 4 nominations - Cinematography, Song, Sound Effects Editing and Sound Mixing. Anything else would be a bit of a surprise, but a welcome one.
    Creasy47 wrote:
    I'm only really expecting noms for Cinematography and Song - that's it. Anything else will be an incredibly welcome surprise. It seems Bardem has a chance for a Best Supporting Actor nomination, but I'm not going to sit here and expect it. The less you expect, the bigger possibility of a better outcome.

    I like where your heads are at, gents. B-)
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited January 2013 Posts: 40,959
    Same to you, Brady. If you're expecting around the same amount as/more than the BAFTA nominations, prepare to be incredibly disappointed.

    I don't even want to consider it as a lock, but I'm going to be upset if Deakins doesn't win for Best Cinematography; I just didn't feel like the man's work was upstaged in any other movie from 2012.
  • edited January 2013 Posts: 11,119
    I agree with @TheWizardOfIce from a page ago. You all have too much hope in us Yanks to deliver nominations. Expect disappointment. As I theorized, the Oscars doing this Bond tribute may be their way of saying "here, we recognized you. Now go away, we have awards to give out!" I am just saying that if you don't expect much, you lose nothing if Skyfall gets snubbed. If Skyfall does succeed in getting some great nods, then you are surprised and happy.

    That's what my idea is as well! I mean really, I don't have very high expectations out of the blue. I have realistic expectations. And whatever nomination we get, I keep staying positive and grateful for every single nomination we get. So.....why the hell should I expect disappointment then if I am already prepared for what will come.

    It's quite a nonsense to say "The lesser you expect, the bigger the outcome will be". It will feel bigger then yes. But I base my expectations on realism, not on emotional inuendo.
  • I do think Oscar nominations for:
    cinematography
    best supporting actor
    best supporting actress
    best original song

    Possible for:
    best picture (especially since it went to between 5 and 10)


    I personally think it will win for cinematography, but that is the only one I am willing to bet on. Bardem is a close second. The academy is sentimental and therefore I think Judi will be nominated. I'd be really happy if she won. (I am sitting here trying to think of her competition ...)

    I would LOVE for Craig to be nominated as best actor not just for the Oscars but for many awards. As we all like to give our opinions, please note this is all my personal opinion and guesses. For Craig's performance as Bond, I do think it is Oscar worthy, Golden Globe worthy. I feel he was as good in Skyfall as in Casino Royale, I really do - and that is to say very good acting indeed, bringing something to that role that is special. But to nominate a Bond actor is a huge leap most awards, maybe even especially the Oscars, won't take. Just my guess.

    I actually agree with all of this post. :) I think cinematography is almost a lock, as is Best Song. Bardem should get nominated but won't win. Same with Judi Dench.

    Craig will win a major award in the future, but it won't be for Bond. I just don't think the Academy gives that role any credit for depth or talent. I'm not disappointed, because I don't expect it. In fact, I don't really expect anything beyond Cinematography and Song. :) Anything above that is icing.

  • Posts: 161
    Amazing that many people are disappointed that a Bond film wasn't Nommited for more awards. I say this kind of talk didn't go on during any other Bond era :) . Thats how amazingly critcally these Craig Bond films have been accepted and treated as great films . Even talking about a actor playing Bond been nomiated is amazing.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    lahaine wrote:
    Amazing that many people are disappointed that a Bond film wasn't Nommited for more awards. I say this kind of talk didn't go on during any other Bond era :) . Thats how amazingly critcally these Craig Bond films have been accepted and treated as great films . Even talking about a actor playing Bond been nomiated is amazing.

    I know, right?! I like where your head is at too.
  • lahaine wrote:
    Amazing that many people are disappointed that a Bond film wasn't Nommited for more awards. I say this kind of talk didn't go on during any other Bond era :) . Thats how amazingly critcally these Craig Bond films have been accepted and treated as great films . Even talking about a actor playing Bond been nomiated is amazing.

    The reason I'm amazed with so many nominations. And the fact this recognition is happening now, in the 50th anniversary, just make the whole thing even more impressive. And exciting. :((
  • edited January 2013 Posts: 6,601
    Creasy47 wrote:
    Same to you, Brady. If you're expecting around the same amount as/more than the BAFTA nominations, prepare to be incredibly disappointed.

    I don't even want to consider it as a lock, but I'm going to be upset if Deakins doesn't win for Best Cinematography; I just didn't feel like the man's work was upstaged in any other movie from 2012.

    I don't think anyody is expecting the same amount of awards for Oscars then for Baftas. Not even me. But I do have hope for BP still for some reason and be it only to show the Baftas, how wrong it was to not nominate the film. I think, there is a certain competition between the two, even tough Oscar is the bigger one. I would never expect them to give DC a nod as I and many others in the industry thought, the Baftas would and should. No way...
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    Germanlady wrote:
    Creasy47 wrote:
    Same to you, Brady. If you're expecting around the same amount as/more than the BAFTA nominations, prepare to be incredibly disappointed.

    I don't even want to consider it as a lock, but I'm going to be upset if Deakins doesn't win for Best Cinematography; I just didn't feel like the man's work was upstaged in any other movie from 2012.

    I don't think anyody is expecting the same amount of awards for Oscars then for Baftas. Not even me. But I do have hope for BP still for some reason and be it only to show the Baftas, how wrong it was to not nominate the film. I think, there is a certain competition between the two, even tough Oscar is the bigger one. I would never expect them to give DC a nod as I and many others in the industry thought, the Baftas would and should. No way...

    *SIGH*

    Just because Skyfall didn't get the nominations you wanted doesn't make the BAFTAs wrong. Seriously, just be happy with the 8 awesome nods we already have! You act like it's Best Picture or nothing, when the other awards are just as special.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited January 2013 Posts: 9,117
    lahaine wrote:
    Amazing that many people are disappointed that a Bond film wasn't Nommited for more awards. I say this kind of talk didn't go on during any other Bond era :) . Thats how amazingly critcally these Craig Bond films have been accepted and treated as great films . Even talking about a actor playing Bond been nomiated is amazing.

    Indeed.
    The quality of Nolans Batman films has forced EON to up their game so that Bond is now on a par with those. But how many nominations are we expecting for TDKR? They are both just popcorn at the end of the day. Good popcorn - Butterkist toffee say not the extortianate, flavourless crap they serve up at the cinema - but popcorn nonetheless.

    The likes of Daniel Day Lewis operate on a completely different level to films like SF and TDKR.

    Germanlady wrote:
    I don't think anyody is expecting the same amount of awards for Oscars then for Baftas. Not even me. But I do have hope for BP still for some reason and be it only to show the Baftas, how wrong it was to not nominate the film. I think, there is a certain competition between the two, even tough Oscar is the bigger one. I would never expect them to give DC a nod as I and many others in the industry thought, the Baftas would and should. No way...

    *SIGH*

    Just because Skyfall didn't get the nominations you wanted doesn't make the BAFTAs wrong. Seriously, just be happy with the 8 awesome nods we already have! You act like it's Best Picture or nothing, when the other awards are just as special.

    I dont think we'll ever convince the Fraulein that a massive injustice hasnt befallen SF.

    Who are these people in 'in the industry' Germanlady? The usual talking head non-entities who appear with their pre scripted drivel on Jimmy Carrs 100 Greatest Sitcoms?
    The film correspondent for the Evening Standard or a bloke who writes for Empire dont really count I'm afraid.
    I think you'll find that by definition BAFTA members are in the industry (ie: in the sense of actually being filmmakers rather than people who just spout their views on Twitter) and those people dont think SF is worthy of BP or Dan worthy of BA alas no matter what your 'industry' moles might think.

    If SF can take more than 2 BAFTAs of any flavour and also nick an Oscar (or maybe two?) for best song or best cinematography I'll be made up.
  • Germanlady wrote:
    Creasy47 wrote:
    Same to you, Brady. If you're expecting around the same amount as/more than the BAFTA nominations, prepare to be incredibly disappointed.

    I don't even want to consider it as a lock, but I'm going to be upset if Deakins doesn't win for Best Cinematography; I just didn't feel like the man's work was upstaged in any other movie from 2012.

    I don't think anyody is expecting the same amount of awards for Oscars then for Baftas. Not even me. But I do have hope for BP still for some reason and be it only to show the Baftas, how wrong it was to not nominate the film. I think, there is a certain competition between the two, even tough Oscar is the bigger one. I would never expect them to give DC a nod as I and many others in the industry thought, the Baftas would and should. No way...

    *SIGH*

    Just because Skyfall didn't get the nominations you wanted doesn't make the BAFTAs wrong. Seriously, just be happy with the 8 awesome nods we already have! You act like it's Best Picture or nothing, when the other awards are just as special.
    Most people don't see it that way though, that's just the fact of the matter. Personally, I don't thin Skyfall is deserving of a BP award and there isn't much use in attempting to change someones opinion. If it were me I'd nominate Django Unchained, Argo, Lincoln, Zero Dark Thirty, and Beasts of the Southern Wild or Les Miserables. If Skyfall gets a nom, then great! If not, life goes on. The film has been so well received up to this point that whatever happens at the awards doesn't really matter.
  • edited January 2013 Posts: 6,601


    No, we won't agree on it, because whatever you say means as little to me what I say to you, because I see it differently. But lets leave it at that now and just accept, that we won't agree.

    BTW - for honoring 50 years of Bond at the National Board of Review Awards, Babs and Daniel were in attendence to claim the William K. Everson Film History Award: 50 Years of Bond Films which included, of course, the producer.
  • Posts: 4,619
    3 hours to go! I don't want to predict anything but I think Skyfall will get at least 5 Oscar nominations. :bz
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    edited January 2013 Posts: 11,139
    I'm not too bothered about Bond getting Oscar nominations or wins. I just hope they put on an awesome tribute, which to me, at that point represents a casting call, particularly to top actors who wouldn't ordinarily bother with Bond in the past but ever since Craug took over and the devastating success of SF, a sizeable shift in quality has been acknowledged and Hollywood will respond.
  • edited January 2013 Posts: 6,601
    8 Oscars nods?
    THR's awards analyst believes the leaderboard will be topped by "Lincoln" (14), "Les Mis" (10), "Life of Pi" and "Skyfall" (8) and "Argo" and "Silver Linings" (6).
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/race/feinberg-forecast-scotts-final-picks-409651
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