Skyfall Wins Bond's First Grammy -Make That Two Grammy's

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  • Posts: 6,601
    robboadam wrote:
    Germanlady wrote:
    Believe me, its going for Oscar. In fact, it will be all over the place.

    You mean SF or LM?
    LM

  • Germanlady wrote:
    robboadam wrote:
    Germanlady wrote:
    Believe me, its going for Oscar. In fact, it will be all over the place.

    You mean SF or LM?
    LM

    Oh, definitely. But that's an Oscar-type film. SF won't get anywhere close to it, unfortunately.
  • Posts: 6,601
    robboadam wrote:
    Germanlady wrote:
    robboadam wrote:
    Germanlady wrote:
    Believe me, its going for Oscar. In fact, it will be all over the place.

    You mean SF or LM?
    LM

    Oh, definitely. But that's an Oscar-type film. SF won't get anywhere close to it, unfortunately.

    I was only mentioning it, because you and I were discussing Oscar chances for SF (which just increased with the recent articles I posted) but back a page, we were discussing a list from deadline. You welcomed me to the Academie Awards as if I knew nothing about it. LM wasn't on that list, so it was not THE list.


    In the end, I don't care so much whether or not it will get nominated. The buzz being consideredd alone is enough to enhance the BO even more, which is what its all about for a film like this.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited November 2012 Posts: 28,694
    I can't see Bond as a best picture contender. If TDK couldn't get it, Bond won't, even with more openings. It simply isn't what the Academy salivate over.
  • I can't see Bond as a best picture contender. If TDK couldn't get it, Bond won't, even with more openings. It simply isn't what the Academy salivate over.

    Hopefully we will be surprised!.. At least I hope so. With up to 10 possible positions for Best Picture I really think it has a chance. Nearly everyone involved in front of or behind the scenes is a previous Academy Award winner or nominee and the film is well liked. I think this will improve its chances in this category.
  • Interesting from GoldDerby:

    Sasha Stone wonders if cinematographer Roger Deakins on his way to his 10th losing Oscar bid: "All props to In Contention‘s astute Oscar pundit (I’m sure he’ll hate that description) Kris Tapley for pointing out that of 'Skyfall’s' potential nominations — Sound, Sound Editing — Cinematography is certainly among them ... Cinematography goes with Best Picture when there is a near sweep of the categories. But when it doesn’t go to Best Picture it either goes to a strong Best Picture candidate as a consolation prize or else it’s totally off the wall, like 'Legends of the Fall.' To beat Deakins now, though, you have to either sweep or be a movie that almost wins Best Picture, or has strong enough support in the Academy to overcome what is now an embarrassing oversight ... Deakins winning for 'Skyfall' after losing for 'No Country for Old Men,' 'Jesse James,' 'Kundun' and 'The Man Who Wasn’t There' is like Al Pacino finally winning for 'Scent of a Woman,' but hey, better late than never." AWARDS DAILY
  • edited November 2012 Posts: 1,021
    robboadam wrote:
    Interesting from GoldDerby:

    Sasha Stone wonders if cinematographer Roger Deakins on his way to his 10th losing Oscar bid: "All props to In Contention‘s astute Oscar pundit (I’m sure he’ll hate that description) Kris Tapley for pointing out that of 'Skyfall’s' potential nominations — Sound, Sound Editing — Cinematography is certainly among them ... Cinematography goes with Best Picture when there is a near sweep of the categories. But when it doesn’t go to Best Picture it either goes to a strong Best Picture candidate as a consolation prize or else it’s totally off the wall, like 'Legends of the Fall.' To beat Deakins now, though, you have to either sweep or be a movie that almost wins Best Picture, or has strong enough support in the Academy to overcome what is now an embarrassing oversight ... Deakins winning for 'Skyfall' after losing for 'No Country for Old Men,' 'Jesse James,' 'Kundun' and 'The Man Who Wasn’t There' is like Al Pacino finally winning for 'Scent of a Woman,' but hey, better late than never." AWARDS DAILY

    I think I would have to disagree with this comment from the GoldDerby. For example I think the cinematography in SF is just as strong if not better than in No Country For Old Men for example. There are plenty of stunningly photographed sequences in SF. The photography during the
    climatic battle on the moors especially after the Skyfall lodge has exploded and Bond is pursuing Silva is quite beautiful.All the sequences in Shanghai particularly the fight against the neon sign and the casino are quite stunning

    Much better than anything in No Country For Old Men and I really like that film and its photography. I think they underestimate the power of Deakins images just because SF isn't considered a typical "oscar bait" film.

  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
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    robboadam wrote:
    Interesting from GoldDerby:

    Sasha Stone wonders if cinematographer Roger Deakins on his way to his 10th losing Oscar bid: "All props to In Contention‘s astute Oscar pundit (I’m sure he’ll hate that description) Kris Tapley for pointing out that of 'Skyfall’s' potential nominations — Sound, Sound Editing — Cinematography is certainly among them ... Cinematography goes with Best Picture when there is a near sweep of the categories. But when it doesn’t go to Best Picture it either goes to a strong Best Picture candidate as a consolation prize or else it’s totally off the wall, like 'Legends of the Fall.' To beat Deakins now, though, you have to either sweep or be a movie that almost wins Best Picture, or has strong enough support in the Academy to overcome what is now an embarrassing oversight ... Deakins winning for 'Skyfall' after losing for 'No Country for Old Men,' 'Jesse James,' 'Kundun' and 'The Man Who Wasn’t There' is like Al Pacino finally winning for 'Scent of a Woman,' but hey, better late than never." AWARDS DAILY

    I think I would have to disagree with this comment from the GoldDerby. For example I think the cinematography in SF is just as strong if not better than in No Country For Old Men for example. There are plenty of stunningly photographed sequences in SF. The photography during the
    climatic battle on the moors especially after the Skyfall lodge has exploded and Bond is pursuing Silva is quite beautiful.All the sequences in Shanghai particularly the fight against the neon sign and the casino are quite stunning

    Much better than anything in No Country For Old Men and I really like that film and its photography. I think they underestimate the power of Deakins images just because SF isn't considered a typical "oscar bait" film.

    Exactly! I think the photography of SF is the best I've seen this year. I could hear people in the cinema talking about how beautiful it looked, that's not the kind of comment one usually hears! Deakins did a master work with SF, it was not his 1st nor will it be his last, but I do hope he gets at least a nomination, it's shameful he never took the statue home.
  • Posts: 6,601
    I can't see Bond as a best picture contender. If TDK couldn't get it, Bond won't, even with more openings. It simply isn't what the Academy salivate over.

    Brady, they try at least..

    James Bond At 50 Scores Big At The Academy But Could It Be The First To Get Best Picture Attention?

    For Lincoln Academy Award attention is expected but now MGM/Sony’s (with Eon) Skyfall, thanks to top reviews and the best business ever for a Bond, is also surprising pundits as an emerging Best Picture contender. The Goldwyn was packed to the rafters on Sunday night and producers Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson, star Daniel Craig and director Sam Mendes appeared for the Q&A. One member told me they felt it is definitely Best Picture material and that was seconded by another, a self-confessed Bond uber-fan who proclaimed it the best ever.

    Skyfall marks the 23rd Bond film out of the Broccoli factory and it is the first I can recall getting truly serious Oscar talk, not only for Best Picture but even in acting categories for supporting players Javier Bardem as the villainous Silva and Judi Dench with a particularly meaty turn as M this time around. It currently stands at an impressive 92% fresh score at Rotten Tomatoes survey of critics, the best critical response to a Bond film in decades. Mendes’ smart re-invention of the series after the not-well received Quantum Of Solace (2008) is a big reason why.
  • I think Deakins has a very good shot at taking home the Oscar. Sam Mendes films have a habit of winning!Conrad L Hall won for American Beauty and that film also won Best Picture and Director. Road To Perdition was awarded an Oscar posthumously to Conrad L Hall and Road To Perdition wasn't even nominated for Best Picture. I would say things are looking good for Deakins first Oscar. Either way - I think he will take the BAFTA and possibly the ASC award.
  • Posts: 6,601
    Sandy wrote:
    Just saw something on TV but don't really know in which thread to put it but CNN places Skyfall as a top Oscar contender!
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
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    Great @Germanlady, I was looking for this thread to post it, thanks.
  • Posts: 6,601
    My pleasure :)

    Interesting Kermode vid
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
    Posts: 4,012
    Interesting, I won't deny it! I stopped trying to understand the academy a long time ago, but who knows?
  • Posts: 3,333
    My guess is Les Miserables will clean up at the next Oscars even if Skyfall is lucky enough to get a nomination. I still think Tom Hooper should be a frontrunner to helm Bond 24 should Mendes decide he doesn't have it in him.
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
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    bondsum wrote:
    My guess is Les Miserables will clean up at the next Oscars even if Skyfall is lucky enough to get a nomination. I still think Tom Hooper should be a frontrunner to helm Bond 24 should Mendes decide he doesn't have it in him.

    I think Tom Hooper is the most over-hyped directors currently. I think he is an unimaginative, predictable director, not bad but not good either, the Academy's cup of tea now that I think about it. I hope he never gets his hands on Bond.
  • Posts: 3,333
    No need to quote me, @Sandy, when I'm directly above you. :-SS Anyway, I'm not sure where you've got the idea that he is "over-hyped" plus "unimaginative and predictable" from? I think he is an extremely accomplished actors' director in the same mold as Mendes who will soon be highly sought after, and his John Adams and Elizabeth I TV series are testament to this ability.
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
    Posts: 4,012
    I know I didn't need to quote you, but it's automatic, sorry :)
    I have this pet peeve with Tom Hooper for a long time, I always get the feeling he does everything by the books, like those students who get very good marks, know everything the text book teaches them, but ask them something else and they are stuck. That what I mean by unimaginative and predictable, that he does everything like he is supposed to. I prefer directors who take risks, sometimes they fail but other times they strive. Tom Hooper is a competent director, very difficult for him to do a bad film, but there's no spark in his work as far as I can see and that always bothers me.
  • Posts: 3,333
    Take a look at the Les Miserables trailer, @Sandy, and I think you'll find there's plenty to see that raises Tom Hooper above a "text book" director. Sadly, I've just found out that it looks like he will direct the Nelson Mandela biopic next so, unless Mendes comes back for Bond 24, we might end up with a less competent director than the two mentioned!! Anyway, Tom Hooper for Best Director is still my prediction.
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
    Posts: 4,012
    I am looking forwards to Les Miserables, but until I watch it I have no reason to think he has done something outstanding with the already excellent source he has.
  • Rope Of Silicon takes a look at possible nominations in the sound category with an interesting video about the "sound of SKYFALL"

    rope of silicon - "Then there's Skyfall, the blockbuster of the year that seems to have captured the bulk of the kudos attention, and while the major awards are unlikely some consolation technical awards are not unlikely. After all, this one is boasting a sound department that includes four-time Oscar winner Scott Millan (Sound Re-recording Mixer) and 15-time nominee Greg Russell (Sound Re-recording Mixer)"

    http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/2013-oscar-predictions-first-look-at-sound-mixing-and-sound-editing/
  • Posts: 6,601
    I love, that Django is listed after SF, but I have often seen it the other way around.
  • Sandy wrote:
    I prefer directors who take risks

    Which is why Tarantino is brilliant. Can't wait for Djano Unchained.
  • Posts: 612
    I'd say Skyfall was a pretty big risk.
  • I'd say Skyfall was a pretty big risk.

    Umm........okay.

    In what?
  • LicencedToKilt69007LicencedToKilt69007 Belgium, Wallonia
    Posts: 523
    I really wished they could create "007 statuettes" and deliver them to all actors (please Sir Sean, stop acting like a kid; it's what made him rich and well-known) and to the production for managing the best film serie ever made during 50 years and that will ever be. That'd be somptuous ! :D

    Honestly, for "Skyfall", I can guess at least nominations for the screenplay, the song, the cinematography and best supporting actor for Bardem's Silva.

    My wins would be for the best song (Adele) and best cinematography. But I don't know in which category (BAFTA's, Oscars, Golden Globes, Satellite, Saturn Awards...)

    BAFTA's probably.
  • Posts: 6,601
    On the short list for visual effects. I doubt, it will be in the top 5, but its nice to see it tere.

    http://www.deadline.com/2012/11/oscars-visual-effects-finalists-named/
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