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You make a good point. The importance of GF, TB, TSWLM, and GE to the canon cannot be denied. Each launched or re-launched Bond into the stratosphere. And even the worst films of, say, Brosnan, played a role in keeping the series alive.
In a sense, OHMSS (despite being my favorite), TMWTGG, and LTK are the most damaging because they almost killed the series. (Throw in QoS and there's a hint of a "sophomore slump.")
What makes CR so special is that it ended on a downbeat note yet was still wildly successful and acclaimed. CR finally delivered on the promise of OHMSS and LTK.
- DAD
- MR
- AVTAK
- DAF
- TWINE
haha
"I like that one where the laser beam goes up his jaffas"
The Man with the Golden Gun
Octopussy
A View to a Kill
Tomorrow Never Dies
The World Is Not Enough
I find it rather surprising that Partridge would make such a mistake as this when reffering to TSWLM.
Is it Coogans writing to blame or is Alan just genuinely confused? Also when running through his Bond video running order I'm pretty sure he misses one out or gets them in the wrong order.
Off the top of my head doesn it go something like 'Raker, Eyes Only, Pussy, Daylights oh batter my arse I've forgotten TSWLM.'
After the Fullerton mistake and then missing it out all together it just seems AP has a downer on AVTAK.
Despite all the classic Bond stuff in that episode, I have to say my favourite bit is Alan drumming along to The Return of the Saint in the graveyard.
"STOP GETTING BOND WRONG"
ironic that the bond referencing is faultless apart from that clanger...
far better than having to grit your teeth thru any typical tabloid bond piece which ALWAYS seen to GET BOND WRONG! :S
He misses OHMSS when going through his Bondathon schedule with Sonja. He also calls Blofeld "Ernest Stavros Blofeld" when smashing up the cereal boxes.
This is probably my favorite moment; http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=pMb7eFdxZnU#t=661s
Also, is it just me, or did Michael not really need to be in the second series?
Although if you watch the Christopher Lee face off with Brydon in the Trip it seems like Coogan knows his Bond so I'm inclined to think that Ernest Stavros was intentional to show Partridge up to be a buffoon. Either that or the BBC were scared of Mcclory and didnt want to risk it!
I thought the entire 2nd series was a bit of a step down from series 1 (with the Bond episode and the one with Dan probably the only ones to reach the heights of the first series) but still a fair bit better than Mid Morning Matters. Although MMM (WAP) is still way above most of the crap the BBC serve up.
Got the Partridge biog on audiobook which isnt bad but what we're all waiting for is another proper series. Come on Steve youre never going to crack America so just give us some more Partridge.
Least Important:
You Only Live Twice-There was not much more the franchise could do after the successes of DN-->TB. YOLT, while I love it, didn't push the series forward, just retreaded well trodden grounds.
The Man With the Golden Gun-Another Bond film I have a soft spot for, but it is not important, because it didn't add anything from the previous film. LALD was Moore's first so it was significant. TSWLM brought life back to the series. TMWGG is just another Bond film in the grand scheme.
A View to a Kill-Once again, a Bond film that doesn't add anything to the equation: a by the numbers Bond film (but don't get me wrong, I love a by the numbers Bond film!)
Tomorrow Never Dies/TWINE: Both middle of the road Brosnan Bond faire, that again, didn't bring anything new to the table. I'm not including Die Another Day, because it was afterall a box-office smash
That's it! All the other Bond films have either something unique about them, marked a significant change or development for the series, or were critical to the success of the series.
Well aren't we hoity toity. Opinions are opinions, and on FORUMs you're bound to run into hundreds of them. Get used to it my compadre.
I'm just giving my opinion, compadre.
It staggers me.
Generally I would say all the 60s were important as the series found its feet. DAF is also important if only because it was the franchise and Connery's final goodbye.
My list would start with TMWTGG. A Bond film with very little new to offer. It was rushed and it shows.
After this Cubby found a new direction which established itself through the 80s, until my second choice
AVTAK. Another film with little to offer that the other Moore Bonds hadn't already offered.
I'm sorry but the franchise was damaged by LTK. Nothing wrong with a hard edged Bond film, but it needed a better director and a more charismatic star to give it the life it so desperately needed. It's an interesting experiment but it ultimately fails. It doesn't feel like a Bond film (unlike TLD).
On to Brosnan, I don't agree about TND. The director really tried a few tricks with a thin script, offering several nods to better days. It wasn't a great film but it was a heroic failure and much of it is at least terrific fun.
TWINE, (like LTK ) tried something different, but exactly how different was that? OHMSS was romantic and tragic, so that wasn't new. Dalton had already tried to give is a thoughtful Bond, so nothing new in Brosnan's performance. Much of the action was uninspiring.
DAD no matter wat stands as the big anniversary film and has a place in the history of the franchise and it's too early to assess QOS, soo my choices are
TMWTGG
AVTAK
LTK
TWINE
You know Nic you're right, I hadn't thought of that. Considering the influence on Austin Powers alone, the massive volcano laire that was used in The Simpsons. YOLT is quite possibly the most inflential Bond in pop culture.
I still can't agree with this. A few director tricks can't rise the film above the heap. Plus nods to better days had been done in virtually all the Bond films prior to it. Maybe the media mogul idea was new, but hardly made the film anymore important to the series. More gadgets, more gimmicks, nothing new.
Absolutely, say what you will about DAF, but there is no denying it had some influence. The space laser has been referenced in films to come including even future Bond films. It also introduced Tom M. to Bond and to the movies in general. There is iconography in the film too: especially the cherry red mustang zipping down Fremont St. Vegas. Plus that theme song...which one Steven Spielberg has said is the greatest theme song he has ever heard, and which has been covered by The Arctic Monkeys and sampled by Kanye West.
QOS
AVTAK
DAD