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  • GetafixGetafix
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    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    You can tell from the poster its gonna be s**t
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    IncompetentHenchman wrote: »
    I rather like TWINE but there are elements of missed opportunity and bad lines there. It is far better than DAD.

    What I love about TWINE is this: It's easily Brosnan's most complex, nuanced, and emotionally rich portrayal of Ian Fleming's James Bond. Perhaps a prelude to Daniel Craig's more radical departure of the formularic pastiche of the James Bond character. Therefore, TWINE and Brosnan give us easily the best performance of James Bond 007.

    I assume that you are taking the proverbial

    Sorry, I don't understand what you mean :-P.

    I mean that I assume you are joking with your comments. The idea that Brosnan in Twine is giving an emotionally rich portrayal is ridiculous. And that it foreshadows Craig's performance - surely you are kidding?!

    And Twine is the best 007 performance? Ever?
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    edited August 2016 Posts: 11,119
    "Die Another Day":
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    Craig's films:
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    When judging style, class, elegance and simplicity.......the posters from the Craig era easily win from that godawfull "Ice Age" rip-off. Even the women in the Craig-era were finally........not just strong women, but also women who weren't afraid to show off their femininity. And look at Craig's fashion choice.
  • Mathis1Mathis1
    Posts: 7,507
    That CR poster is an absolute stunner. QOS wasn't bad, but I'not keen on the other two!
  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
    Posts: 2,722
    Except for CR I think all the teaser or alternate poster for QoS, SF and SP are superior to what they finished with.
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    Casting Berry in DAD was a lesson that simply confirmed that high profile actresses do NOT make a Bond girl nowadays.

    People saw her as Halle Berry not Jinx...unlike the Craig Bond girls Vesper,Camile,Moneypenny,Madeline etc...people see them as the character not the actress.

    A lesson well learned I suppose.
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    That CR poster is an absolute stunner. QOS wasn't bad, but I'not keen on the other two!

    SF is the weakest poster out of the four IMO....

  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
    Posts: 2,722
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Casting Berry in DAD was a lesson that simply confirmed that high profile actresses do NOT make a Bond girl nowadays.

    People saw her as Halle Berry not Jinx...unlike the Craig Bond girls Vesper,Camile,Moneypenny,Madeline etc...people see them as the character not the actress.

    A lesson well learned I suppose.

    Brosnan era was really chasing the American market with Hatcher, Richards and Berry. Quite against the run of form for the Bond series.

  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    Major_Boothroyd wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Casting Berry in DAD was a lesson that simply confirmed that high profile actresses do NOT make a Bond girl nowadays.

    People saw her as Halle Berry not Jinx...unlike the Craig Bond girls Vesper,Camile,Moneypenny,Madeline etc...people see them as the character not the actress.

    A lesson well learned I suppose.

    Brosnan era was really chasing the American market with Hatcher, Richards and Berry. Quite against the run of form for the Bond series.

    True....that bloody 'zipper' comment by 'R' in TWINE really annoyed me,and still does.
  • identigraphidentigraph
    Posts: 1,052
    Looks like a bit of surfing made it to the poster also, in the top right corner. They obviously thought this was going to be a highlight of the film.

  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    identigraph wrote: »
    Looks like a bit of surfing made it to the poster also, in the top right corner. They obviously thought this was going to be a highlight of the film.

    It is...but not for the right reasons haha !!

  • tanaka123tanaka123
    Posts: 4,325
    The poster campaigns for the DC films have been fairly dull, the Brosnan ones are so 90s with their, 'we have Photoshop!!' mentality.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 7,582
    BB and MW should have put their foot down over the wind surfing for two reasons. 1) the CGI wasn't good enough and 2) they had a surfing scene already in the film, which was done well and no one now remembers it.
  • tanaka123tanaka123
    Posts: 4,325
    NicNac wrote: »
    BB and MW should have put their foot down over the wind surfing for two reasons. 1) the CGI wasn't good enough and 2) they had a surfing scene already in the film, which was done well and no one now remembers it.

    There was a surfing scene earlier in the film?
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    In the PTS ,Tanaka123.....
  • patbpatb
    Posts: 4,617
    Its interesting how time changes things. Looking at it now, that DAD just looks dreadful, below standard for many of the home grown talent within this forum. Looks like a sixth form project. The 4 DC era posters really do show how the style and mood changed.
  • tanaka123tanaka123
    Posts: 4,325
    barryt007 wrote: »
    In the PTS ,Tanaka123.....

    Oh yeah, apparently there's something good in DAD! I'd forgotten in all the rubbish in it.
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    tanaka123 wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    In the PTS ,Tanaka123.....

    Oh yeah, apparently there's something good in DAD! I'd forgotten in all the rubbish in it.

    That's the problem,the crap overcomes the cream alas ,he he.

  • Mathis1Mathis1
    Posts: 7,507
    I abhor DAD, but that opening surfing scene ia actually well done, its when Brossa and the other two running up the back projection beach that the film plummets!
  • GBFGBF
    Posts: 3,197
    At least the DAD poster - despite looking like a cheap video game cover - showed something from the film. What I don't like about the Craig posters is that they are very random and exchangeable. The villains are not on there and there is too much focus on Bond in his noble suit which does not even fit to the more gritty Bond films. They definately have style but rather look as if they were from a fashion catalouge as mentioned above.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited August 2016 Posts: 40,978
    11 year old me loved seeing DAD in theaters for the first time; it was the first Bond movie I managed to see in cinemas.
    Getafix wrote: »
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    You can tell from the poster its gonna be s**t
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    IncompetentHenchman wrote: »
    I rather like TWINE but there are elements of missed opportunity and bad lines there. It is far better than DAD.

    What I love about TWINE is this: It's easily Brosnan's most complex, nuanced, and emotionally rich portrayal of Ian Fleming's James Bond. Perhaps a prelude to Daniel Craig's more radical departure of the formularic pastiche of the James Bond character. Therefore, TWINE and Brosnan give us easily the best performance of James Bond 007.

    I assume that you are taking the proverbial

    Sorry, I don't understand what you mean :-P.

    I mean that I assume you are joking with your comments. The idea that Brosnan in Twine is giving an emotionally rich portrayal is ridiculous. And that it foreshadows Craig's performance - surely you are kidding?!

    And Twine is the best 007 performance? Ever?

    In terms of performances, you just can't beat early Connery.
  • vzokvzok
    Posts: 4,044
    DAD is actually pretty good.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    GBF wrote: »
    At least the DAD poster - despite looking like a cheap video game cover - showed something from the film. What I don't like about the Craig posters is that they are very random and exchangeable. The villains are not on there and there is too much focus on Bond in his noble suit which does not even fit to the more gritty Bond films. They definately have style but rather look as if they were from a fashion catalouge as mentioned above.

    In all fairness the DAD teaser poster is veritably Choppingesque.

    Was all downhill after that.
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    Faster than a 'George Lazenby Pitz Gloria escape'......such a shame.
  • SzonanaSzonana Mexico
    Posts: 1,130
    You could all call me crazy but i did like the poster.
    It has color and goes with the story of the film.
  • IncompetentHenchmanIncompetentHenchman
    Posts: 1,817
    We can debate about posters this way and that way. I personally like the style and vividness of the Brosnan's and don't care too much for the dullness of the Craig's. But remember that this is most certainly the long gone golden age:

    from_russia_with_love_ver3_xlg.jpg
    affiche-au-service-secret-de-sa-majeste-on-her-majesty-s-secret-service-1969-12.jpg
    Live_and_Let_Die-_UK_cinema_poster.jpg

    Just look at the pure colour of these posters. They actually speak to the imagination and sense of fantasy that so well encapsulated the 60s and 70s. We need more of THIS!
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,475
    IncompetentHenchman wrote: »
    We can debate about posters this way and that way. I personally like the style and vividness of the Brosnan's and don't care too much for the dullness of the Craig's. But remember that this is most certainly the long gone golden age:

    from_russia_with_love_ver3_xlg.jpg
    affiche-au-service-secret-de-sa-majeste-on-her-majesty-s-secret-service-1969-12.jpg
    Live_and_Let_Die-_UK_cinema_poster.jpg

    Just look at the pure colour of these posters. They actually speak to the imagination and sense of fantasy that so well encapsulated the 60s and 70s. We need more of THIS!

    Yes.
  • daltondalton
    Posts: 1,631
    With regards to the posters for the Craig films, it's pretty clear that they tapped out with the Casino Royale teaser, which is perhaps the best poster in the entire franchise, as it was all downhill from there.

    The Brosnan posters are all very tacky in a very 90s kind of way, though. It's a shame that they can't find some kind of happy medium between those and the more dull style of the Craig films. Or, even better, have the courage to go back to a style more similar to the posters we had during the Connery and early Moore eras.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    Posts: 11,189
    Those old posters had real character.
  • GBFGBF
    Posts: 3,197
    BAIN123 wrote: »
    Those old posters had real character.

    One could also add the FYEO and TLD posters to the real great ones.
  • GBFGBF
    Posts: 3,197
    as well as TB and YOLT
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