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More accurate to say that homages in general are boring... There is no reason for them, really...
I don't think there's been a better one since. The closest in terms of pacing and escalation is probably SF, but the disconnect between MI6 and Bond in the former gives it the dramatic edge for me. He's 'Bond' in TND, whereas (for narrative reasons, I know) he's just another agent in SF.
Just freaking fabulous only surpassed by SP's
Certainly controversial.
Agree with everyone here who says the PTS is fantastic (which it is) and that TND is somewhat underrated but the finale is what lets the film down.
Up until the end of the motorbike chase it's a fantastic romp of a film that rattles along at a ridiculous pace but once we get on board the stealth boat it drops to TB levels of dullness.
Bond walking round with a gun in each hand casually blowing people away with the cliched 'Bond's equal' Bond girl by his side doing the same really isn't up to scratch I'm afraid.
Stick GE's finale onto TND and you've got Brosnan's best Bond and possibly a top 10 film.
1. Tom Hiddleston Might make a decent Bond
2. As much as I would want a third Dalton Film the fact the craig Era has been so un even with two amazing films (casino Royale and Quantum of Solace) and two just ok films (Skyfall and spectre) leads me to think maybe we dodged a bullet and had Dalton did more then two the Same issues plagueing Craig would of Plagued his tenure?
3. The world is not enough is better then Goldeneye and really may be Brosnan's best bond film
4. The World Is not Enoungh Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace all harken back to the early connery days of simple plots and a focus on espionage (even though there is action in those three films)
5. Goldfinger is just nearing the bottom of my list in terms of bond films it will never truly be the worst because the iconic scenes are well so iconic the film around those scenes well..
6. My Favorite bond film from each actor is also controversial
Connery From Russia With Love
Lazenby (one could say Diamonds aren't forever or his appearance in the return of the man from uncle is your favorite performance but I think we all agree on this) On Her majesties Secret Service
Moore For Your Eyes Only
Dalton Licence to kill
Brosnan the World is not enough
Craig Casino Royale (but when I watch Quantum again my opnion might change)
7. The Hildebrand Rarity should be used during the Craig era as I think Like Moore with Octopussy Craig is the only Bond who can pull of The Hildebrand Rarity
8. very little would have to be changed with For Your Eyes Only and Octopussy for it to work as Dalton films
9. While everyone associates Moore with a more jokey 007 Honestly he could of done the dark espionage films like Connery Dalton and Craig thoughout his entire tenure and FYEO and Octopussy prove it
10. the following bands/artists could of or could still (if they are alive) done great bond themes
David Bowie
George Harrison
Rush
Yes
Queen
11. Marc Forester is a better bond director then Sam Mendes
12. Adrian Paul would of made a good 007
13. Craig should do 3 more films (he is still in good shape and Hollywood is ok with older spies)
14. whenever Bond Number 7 is announced the first film he stars in (which I am hoping is either Bond 26 or 27) the title should be The Property of a Lady as I always elt that was a good Fleming title but generic enough that any bond actor could have be in a film titled that
15. Janus really should of been around for more then one film and the idea of a criminal organization with the head missing or dead is a theme Bond 25 really should explore (hence why I want Craig in at least 2 more films Bond 25 deals with the fallout and eventual death of Swann bond 26 is Bond versus Blofeld)
16. While I am tired of one word titles if Craig and Waltz stuck around for 2 more films as Waltz is rumored to claim (saying he has a three picture deal including Spectre and will only return if Craig does) the final Bond versus Blofeld film really should be titled Blofeld.
17. I don't mind Purvis and Wade honestly.
that is just my opinions of course.
I have to agree with this, what lacked in depth had it in entretainment value and he was very Bond classic like just his films were made and set in the 90s instead of 60s.
But ive always felt his Bond was a modern Take of Sean Connery's Bond
everyone says the third film is the best for ecah actor and the only exception was Pierce who is best film is considered Goldeneye
Well my only personal exception to this rule is Sean Can since my favorite from him is Dr No but i do like Goldfinger very much as well
Here is my favorite for each Bond actor
Sean Connery Dr No
Roger Moore The Spy who loved me
Timothy Dalton Licence to kill
Pierce Brosnan The world is not enough
Daniel Craig Skyfall
Really? Bond controlling the car perfectly with a touchpad. Bond grinning as he smashes blindly onto a pedestrian street. Inane motorbike chase after which wai lin undoes the handcuffs in a few seconds. Stupid Paris Carver subplot which goes nowhere. Imo, Goldeneye beats it on all counts, and at least TWINE had Elektra.
Fun as fuck, though.
Some controversial opinions;
Bond films should focus on being fun. Screw this "dark, serious, intense" stuff that has gotten old faster than anything in the "classic Bond" era. The culture as a whole has gone overboard with this "dark" thing and it's grown tiresome.
I don't care how close or far a Bond actor's portrail is from "Fleming's Bond." In my opinion EON'S Bond is superior to Fleming's.
Gadgets are Bond (at least with the movie Bond). They are the main reason I started watching the Bond movies.
If you don't like camp, gadgets, and humor, are you sure you have the right film series? On the whole, this has been the series.
Anyway, the crazy, butt-hurt, Brosnan-fan rant is over. =))
A titbit which is probably well known here is that TND had Ricky Jay in but cut the scene showing his 'cards as weapons' skills.
Agreed. Beside, The Saint has far more in common with Arsène Lupin than Bond.
Some people here have Dalton s imaginary third film as their favourite. That s religion.
I'd say Craig, Dalton, Brosnan and Lazenby each's best movie was their first.
Makes 4 out of 6.
I agree with you on Connery. I much prefer any of the Young Bonds to GF. Having said that, Connery/Moore/Craig all hit box office gold with their third outings (much higher grosses than the previous films). TWINE didn't quite reset things like those films.
Let me explain why with Craig and Pierce
Goldeneye and Casino Royale were great films with anice mix of a great plot and getting the Bond elements but they weren't films completely tailored for their respective actors.
Goldeneye's script has some moments which seemed like this wasn't made for Brosnan and makes me think like this was more of Dalton moment like the cemetery scene with Alec and the Pre Tittles seqeuence. With Casino Royale the Train scene would have looked nicer with Pierce.
So Skyfall and The World is not enough got the strenghts of Casino Royale and Goldeneye to make a great film which felt Bondian with a good story completely tailored for Pierce and Daniel Craig.
Casino Royale and Goldeneye were great films and debuts for their actors but it bugs me a little that they were films with scripts in the Limbo.
They had scripts which a little looked indecisive like we will write with our previous actor in mind in case he comes back then gets polished fir the next one bit still has moments where doesn't fot to the new actor.
I never felt that with GE. Sure, I miss Dalton to this day, but when GE arrived I was in Bond Heaven, of course I was at the right age then (21) to fully enjoy such films.
In retrospect I can see that GE might have worked with Dalton and I am one of the few who think that CR would have worked with Brosnan, maybe to some extend even better, of course without the re-boot stuff. It would have been a different film naturally.
But I have no regrets, I believe in destiny. Lazenby was born to do 1 Bond movie.
Brosnan didn't get out of Remington Steele, in retrospect a gift from Heaven. Imagine he had done TLD and LTK and then it would have been over.
The same goes for Brosnan, I never was even in the slightest sad when it was announced that he doesn't return. He made 4 highly successful movies which were loved, all of them, at the time they were released. DAD was the high point, success wise.
And I feel the same about Craig. If SP is indeed his last, he has left the franchise on the heights of his tenure. He was finally allowed to show the world that he can be 100% Bond and to great success.
And if he is meant to be to do a fifth, then it will be.
Yeah. I often wonder if the Bond movies will someday have to become a cult thing if they are going to retain any sense of what makes Bond films, Bond films.
See SPECTRE.
Exactly. We finally got a classic Bond film again and most people hate it. I hope EON sees that the main issue with Spectre was a few weak plot points a not its return to the classic formula. I'm genuinely concerned about what the next Bond film, and even more, what the next Bond will be like. I also must add that Spectre fairs much better on a second viewing than on the first (at least for me).
Ohh I don't regret the films each Bond actor made, like you i do believe in destiny and im very happy Pierce had to wait a little longer to get the part it helped him to look more Bondian hehe.
I loved Goldeneye and Casino Royale with the actors they had its just at momrnts felt that the film wasn't fully written for each one of them( Goldeneye for Pierce and Casino Royale for Daniel).
Still they gave very nice performances its just that they did slightly better in thrir third film bit after all if their debuts wouldn't have been good we wouldn't have gotten 4 films with each actor.
And im satisfied with the 4 films Pierce Brosnan got. I enjoyed the 4 films very much and the same goes for Craig.
Its funny how we both appreciated Craig much more after watching Spectre. His portrayal and his previous 3 films they got a new meaning after Spectre.
Yeah it's not the return to the "classic" that hurts the film. In fact the classic scenes are excellent - The Q scene is brilliant.
The cinematic version of James Bond did borrow a lot from the literary Saint as written by Leslie Charteris. And I would know as I have got the whole Saint series in my book collection [like 007 series in several languages and version].
That's a myth. Like saying most people regard SF as the best, another myth.
SPECTRE was a triumph for all involved. It beat Jurassic World, Avengers and others BY FAR in many important markets in Europe if not all (I've got to do a research on some EU countries that I haven't covered yet).
The main reason for SP not reaching SF BO is the US and the currency exchange situation. Also a reason why Star Wars could not reach higher up BO wise.
SF and SP will go down in history as Craig's and the franchises most successful movies on all counts.
People loved both, both got Awards, both broke ticket sales records around the world.
"So James, why did you come?"
"I came here to kill you"
"And I thought you came here to die."
"Well, It's all a matter of perspective."
Possibly the worst exchange of the Craig films. Worse than the drippy love dialogue from CR.
It's extremely awkward how Waltz just stops and turns in the hallway like that. Very shoddy, uninspired direction. The whole exchange seems stitched together from three separate takes. There is no attempt to make it seem more natural. Plus, the scene itself, while very trailer-worthy, is utterly pointless.
"Do you expect me to talk ?" ........ " No I expect you to die !"
Same with the line about "all a matter of perspective " , which reminds me
of the "Depends on which side of the glass you're standing " line from Dr No.
Even the line about visionaries " our wards are full of them" very close to
Dr No again with " Our asylums are full of people who think they're Napoleon
or God "
One would expect those lines to be exchanged after a little more time together. It seemed to come out of nowhere to me and yes, seemed like 'trailer' bait.
That's why the rumoured 'dinner scene' should have been inserted in my view.