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  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK
    edited March 2012 Posts: 5,745
    Samuel001 wrote:
    What is Casino Royale's "high-altitude stunt"?
    Master_Dahark wrote:
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    Notice: Both of his PTS have Bond working with another agent. I wonder if that's his doing. Both PTS also have high-altitude stunts. Close enough.

    With Casino Royale? Sounds more like you're thinking of TLD (which he didn't direct)

    The cranes? DUUUUHHHHHHH :P
  • 007RogerMoore007RogerMoore
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    But the cranes were not in the PTS in CR.
  • SaintMarkSaintMark
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    that was after the PTS, my dear.
  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK
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    Just got seriously red faced.

    *skips off whistling and sells everything he ever owned*
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    I thought I wasn't going mad! I've glad that's been proven. Come back @JWESTBROOK!
  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK
    edited March 2012 Posts: 5,745
    Samuel001 wrote:
    I thought I wasn't going mad! I've glad that's been proven. Come back @JWESTBROOK!

    Maybe that's a bit irrational. Mother will beat me tonight for sure:P
  • 007RogerMoore007RogerMoore
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    I think he meant when Dryden falls from his chair. That must have been quite a fall./JK
  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK
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    007RogerMoore wrote:
    I think he meant when Dryden falls from his chair. That must have been quite a fall./JK

    Yea, see. They were also in a skyscraper, that's pretty high up. Where's your argument now?! Haha
  • 007RogerMoore007RogerMoore
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    I stand corrected. I hope you accept my sincere excuses.
  • identigraphidentigraph
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    How about Ronnie Corbett to direct the next one, I think he has the required stature.
  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK
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    007RogerMoore wrote:
    I stand corrected. I hope you accept my sincere excuses.

    I hope you didn't take that seriously. I'm still getting off this embarrassment high. Wooo that was fun.
  • 007RogerMoore007RogerMoore
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    I´m just kidding too. HAHA
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    SaintMark wrote:
    Agent007391 wrote:
    DaltonCraig007 wrote:
    Agent007391 wrote:
    007RogerMoore wrote:
    DAD is a great movie and feels much more Bondian to me than Craig´s movies (though I haven´t read the books).

    You, sir, should read the books, and then you'll find the real James Bond.

    If he read the books, it would comfort him in that idea - Brosnan made a very Flemingesque performance in DAD.

    Well, with the exception that Brosnan's movies are filled to the brim with gadgets, two-dimensional characters, only one relevant to its time plot and a Korean guy who, for some reason, believes that in order to lead Korea to reunification under the North, he needs to be British...

    Oh, wait. You'll find none of this in Fleming.

    You are absolutely right as Hugo Drax from MR is actually a survivor of the war and turns out to be a German who after plastic surgery takes up the role of extremely British industrialist in order to get revenge on the British for the lost war.

    :D

    He still made more sense than Moon/Graves. He still worked better than Moon/Graves.
  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK
    edited March 2012 Posts: 5,745
    Controversial opinion:

    Another Way to Die was an excellent song, instrumentally:
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Controversial opinion: I didn't like when Moore used the woman as a shield in TSWLM.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    Controversial opinion:

    Another Way to Die was an excellent song, instrumentally:

    It's still awful.
  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK
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    DaltonCraig007 wrote:
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    Controversial opinion:

    Another Way to Die was an excellent song, instrumentally:

    It's still awful.

    What don't you like about it? I think it has some very interesting ques the film should have followed on.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    Controversial opinion:

    Another Way to Die was an excellent song, instrumentally

    Wizard in total agreement shocker!

    To be honest I actually think theres a half decent song in there trying to get out. Jack White really captures the sound of Barry in some parts. Tragically though Alicia Keys seemingly improvised cranium piercing howls throughout the second half of the song turn it into an incoherent mess.

    Ditch Keys and this could have been alright - but thats the wisdom of the studio for you.

  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    I don't get why people hate AWTD. It fits the story great, because Bond doesn't know who to trust, and everyone around him could just be another way to die.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited March 2012 Posts: 15,718
    Agent007391 wrote:
    I don't get why people hate AWTD. It fits the story great, because Bond doesn't know who to trust, and everyone around him could just be another way to die.

    Your musical arguments are invalid since you confessed of hating Shirley Bassey. ;)

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  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    DaltonCraig007 wrote:
    Agent007391 wrote:
    I don't get why people hate AWTD. It fits the story great, because Bond doesn't know who to trust, and everyone around him could just be another way to die.

    Your musical arguments are invalid since you confessed of hating Shirley Bassey. ;)

    Right again DaltonCraig. If I recall correctly didnt he even go as far to say that ANWTD was actually better than Bassey?

    Thank god for your DAF/TMWTGG insanity or we'd be in grave danger of getting along.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    DaltonCraig007 wrote:
    Agent007391 wrote:
    I don't get why people hate AWTD. It fits the story great, because Bond doesn't know who to trust, and everyone around him could just be another way to die.

    Your musical arguments are invalid since you confessed of hating Shirley Bassey. ;)

    I'm sorry, but the awfully out of tune "Gaaaaawld fin-guh!" is good?! F***'s sake, I'd take rap over that, and I despise rap.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Agent007391 wrote:
    I'm sorry, but the awfully out of tune "Gaaaaawld fin-guh!" is good?! F***'s sake, I'd take rap over that, and I despise rap.

    haters-gonna-hate-7.jpg
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Here's a melancholy epiphany- Bond fans have lost all sight of what the character was supposed to be.
  • 007RogerMoore007RogerMoore
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    Roger Moore is the definition of Bond. And to a slightly lesser degree, PB and SC.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    Here's a melancholy epiphany- Bond fans have lost all sight of what the character was supposed to be.

    Glad to see you understand your faults. ;)
  • jolearonjolearon
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    What part in the film did he do that?
    echo wrote:
    Controversial opinion: I didn't like when Moore used the woman as a shield in TSWLM.

  • 007RogerMoore007RogerMoore
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    Before the fight with Sandor.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    DaltonCraig007 wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    Here's a melancholy epiphany- Bond fans have lost all sight of what the character was supposed to be.

    Glad to see you understand your faults. ;)
    I saw this coming a mile away, but I thought you'd be brave enough to be clever about it for Christ's sake. It's funny how everyone who likes the Moore films to the point of obsession scoff at serious Bond films and call them unBondian when the very song and dance comedy show films they love for their so called """""Flemingesque"""""" atmosphere are in reality a mockery of the character. If this franchise had films like DAF, TMWTGG, and basically every damn Moore film, I wouldn't be here right now. There is a great time to be had when quips, action, and drama are blended nicely in a film, but when a film tries too hard and the act of trying to be funny makes you laugh because you can't believe you're watching this crap, the drama folds if there was anything tangible to start with, and the action is all that's memorable. The golden Connery films(DN, FRWL, GF, and TB), and CR have their funny moments, but balance it with great action and drama. With DAF and Moore's films I hit myself for being such an idiot watching the things and apologize to the Bond films that take the character seriously instead of a walking joke, all right before I change the channel or shut of my DVD player. Fleming had some unique facets in his books, sure, but he would never, never, never, ever write about Bond jumping on the backs of crocodiles like a flaming idiot, swinging on vines while yelling like Tarzan, and he wouldn't be caught dead in a clown suit. It's treason, shameful to Fleming's character, and worst of all, the films that treat Bond like SNL get included amongst the likes of DN, FRWL, TB, CR, TLD, and LTK. It is the equivalent of Michael Bay accepting a lifetime achievement golden director award while Coppola, Scorsese, Spielberg, Hitchcock(RIP), Eastwood, Nolan, Stone, the Coen Brothers, Greengrass, and more sit in their chairs and twiddle their thumbs. It shames me to be in such company. Every time I hear Roger say "I'm Bond. James Bond", I reach for the remote and say without comprise "no Roger, you really, really, aren't".

  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited March 2012 Posts: 15,718
    I understand you don't like Moore, and I respect that, but comparing Moore's outings to Michael Bay is a bit extreme. Sorry but Moore's films are a trillion times more intelligent than Transfomers 1, 2 or 3.

    Sorry 0Brady, but I can't help but notice you can't stand Moore and Brosnan as Bond... If I put them together, that's 11 films, so you can't stand half the franchise ?

    And don't get me wrong 0Brady, but as a film, I'd put CR in my top 20 films of the 2000's.... it's just CR as a Bond film that I can't stand.
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