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Ah right, I didn't mind the hospital scenes at all. Thought both were good lines. TSWLM was a great ending for a Moore film, but it would come across as 'too light' in the Craig era. Barbara Bachs damp cleavage is reason enough to watch the end of TSWLM though.
"Just keeping the British end up, sir!"
Probably the best of the cheesy Moore endings.
All of Craig's epilogues have been good. Especially QoS's "I never left...."
I'm not a fan of FYEO ("Give us a kiss!") onwards.
Far from it. It's very good, but definitely not perfect.
Ah the ending of FYEO. It's hilarious yet notorious at the same time. Would have made a great 5 minute sketch.
An henchman can be the main villain. It has nothing to do with his place in his organization hierarchy. What matters is his relationship with the hero. In that respect Grant is the main antagonist.
Fair point.
He's still IN the film though even if we never see his face.
I would say Renard and Elektra shared shared the villain duties in TWINE....
In FRWL the villain is SPECTRE itself. An ensemble villain if you like...
Except that's not why people advocating he's the main villain say he's the main villain. He's the main antagonist for pretty much the whole movie and he's set up at this nihilistic terrorist that strikes terror in the heart of even his followers.
As for Blofeld he's not the main villain until YOLT. Before his involvement is too remote and passive.
Oh and in The Barber of Seville, Figaro is the hero and main character, even though he is someone else's sidekick.
Dr. No is the main villain of DN
Klebb is the main villain of FRWL
Largo is the main villain of TB
Blofeld is the main villain of YOLT, OHMSS and DAF
Khan is the main villain of OP
Whitaker is the main villain of TLD (but it could be Koskov)
Elektra is the main villain of TWINE
Le Chiffre is the main villain of CR
My reasoning for Blofeld being the main villain in FRWL (moreso than Klebb at least) isn't so much about where he is positioned in the hierarchy so much as it is that we see Klebb essentially trembling in fear in front of him. IMO the main villain can't be terrified of another villain on screen. If they are then I think there is either not a main villain or someone else is the main villain. In the case of CR I think Mr. White & Obanno are the lead onscreen villains because we see LeChiffre desperately begging for his life in their presence. I'm sure others will disagree, but I just don't see him as all that powerful. For me a lead villain has to be unrivaled on screen for power and begging for your life is not the act of a particularly powerful character. In the case of FRWL I tend to think Red Grant & Blofeld are the film's lead villains because Grant doesn't seem to fear anyone in the film and neither does Blofeld. Blofeld doesn't wish to have to inform the Russians of how plans have gone awry because SPECTRE has a reputation to preserve. Blofeld doesn't appear to be afraid of the Russians, but wishes to preserve the organization's (his own) reputation. Failure makes SPECTRE (Blofeld) look weak and that is unacceptable. He built this organization from the ground up and a single imperfection or crack in the foundation might send the whole thing crumbling down so all imperfections must be taken care of immediately.
For FRWL, Klebb's technically the main villain, but she's obviously just a henchman to Blofeld, who's more of an overseer of everything - he doesn't even interact with Bond.
Sean Connery Roger Moore Daniel Craig etc then. Marvelous.
Would you have a problem if that ever happened?
Maybe you are joking, but to clarify I meant the villain who gets first billing.
Actually I'm trying to be you. Failing miserably I guess. You're the boss.