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Le Chiffre has no knowledge of Vesper, and when Quantum and Obanno realize that Le Chiffre has failed them in a bad bet, she is sent to ensure the money is gotten to them somehow, someway, though I'm sure she doesn't get told much beyond the essential information. Le Chiffre doesn't know Quantum is on to him when the card game begins, and tries to kill Bond because he's the best player and the one who is most standing in the way of him winning. When Bond ultimately wins, however, Le Chiffre is then driven to kidnap Vesper out of desperation (who he sees only as Bond's lover and not a planted Quantum agent) to get Bond in a weak position, so that he can get the password from him. White then steps in and kills Le Chiffre in retaliation, along with all his goons to ensure that Vesper can still give him the money later on.
Essentially, Le Chiffre doesn't know of Vesper, or that Quantum is on to him until Obanno shows up, but Vesper could know of Le Chiffre, or she may not. The latter is uncertain, but the former holds up as a truth to me.
Quantum uncovered Le Chiffre's bad bet and found out he was headed to Montenegro, and because Bond was on site and stopped the Skyfleet plane from exploding, the organization knew the British government were onto Le Chiffre too, and would send an agent to face him off (they no doubt have moles in MI6 anyway and could find this out easily). Vesper was already being prepped for use as a pawn by Quantum before this point (logic says so), but the organization decided to use her early when they found out Le Chiffre's screw up. They then faked Yusef's kidnapping, had Vesper follow their orders to save him, and had her sign on to join Bond in Montenegro to watch the money.
Vesper is essentially the secret weapon Quantum put in place to surprise Le Chiffre and to make sure the organization wins no matter what. If Le Chiffre loses, they can use Vesper to get the money from Bond, and if Le Chiffre won the game, he'd be forced to give the money to them for fear of them killing him. Quantum was going to come out on top either way, and they played Le Chiffre and Vesper separately to make sure the money would be theirs after either eventuality.
Man, this makes my head hurt. 8-}
Right, OK. That's very helpful, however I still have one question. If Le Chiffre definitely doesn't know Vesper, then what was the business with "the tell" all about? I thought that Vesper told Le Chiffre that Bond knew about his tell (the twitch he does when he lies) so that Le Chiffre could use the tell to trick Bond and win the poker game. I thought that's what happened, because Bond thinks Mathis told Le Chiffre about the tell, and Le Chiffre even says "your friend Mathis, is my friend Mathis". However, if Le Chiffre doesn't know Vesper, then how does he know that Bond knows about his tell, and how does he know that Bond suspects Mathis is a rat?
It always seemed to me that Vesper was the ultimate backup plan should Le Chiffre fail, and I assumed that he and she knew of each other's presence. Le Chiffre never makes a move against her, except for the faked kidnapping.
There's something strange, and dare I say sinister, in Vesper's expression when they throw Bond into the car with her. At any rate, Vesper is essentially a "sphinx" throughout the film (and even after her death in QoS).
Seconded! Overall, the Brosnan era is no more ridiculous than the Moore era.
I like to think he is a freelance banker whose clients include spectre. I'm ignoring the retcon
There's not enough roads on the seabed yet for a submersible car, give it time.
I like Craig's performance a lot more here too. It might be my favourite Craig moment when he switches hotels. We've had too few of those moments during his tenure.
Also it has the best David Arnold score in the series and I really love the PTS with the Aston and the Alfa's.
Sam Mendes might hit us over the head trying to be meaningful and artsy but I'd say Marc Forster does a better job at both aspects.
QoS gets the job done. It's a lean mean Bond film with a ferocious pace and probably Craig's best turn as Bond.
Unlike SF and SP it has no pretentions to be anything but a fast paced Bond adventure that closes the Vesper story.
One of the many stellar moments. Straight out of a Young Bond film.
Now it makes sense :-)
Agreed on all points bar one. DC's best performance as Bond is in CR by a country mile. It's more purist Fleming and the whole film and characters are more engaging....including Bond.
Absolutely. There are a number of things wrong with DAD, but the Vanish is not one of them. I've never had any problem with any aspect of the Vanish. The CGI looks solid and the Vanish/Jaguar ice chase is in fact one of the few highlights of the film's second half.
That's not true. The Lotus has been done in real life.....it can be done and was on Top Gear. The Vanish cannot. The technology is good enough yet...also on Top Gear.