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Agreed. DN is good and is not boring IMO. Connery is carrying that movie on his shoulders, and luckily doesn't disappoint. Great villain also.
Even CR had the DB5.
The old comment about TB being tedious in certain places makes me wonder if people actually pay attention to music and photography. Those two elements alone make both TB and OHMSS truly wonderful Bonds for me.
Exactly Dimi ! OHMSS and TB have gorgeous locations, sets, music and cinematography. Even if a certain section is boring, these 2 films are still a feast for the eyes and ears.
Agree on OHMSS but TB for me was always a disappointment. I think the jet-pack sequence gets it off to a bad, absurd, start and it never fully recovers, despite good elements.
Good call sir. I've always recognised that fat bloke from the fight in the warehouse (surely the weakest scrap in all of Bondom - with none of the protaganists under 50) but couldnt put my finger on it till now.
For a long time I thought it was Bill Maynard from 70s sitcom The Gaffer.
I love GE, but I can't see these cliches from previous films (other than the obvious ones) in the first 15 minutes that you're mentioning. Can you please list them.
That's not a "cliche" per se, as I see it. Especially since it's a normal DB5 in CR, and the one in GE is supposedly the same one he's used for his ageless decades.
I see the DB5, even if it's a different one, as sort of a Bond cliche. I don't mind really mind when it's used the way it was in GE and CR though (I kind of don't want to see it as Bonds main car again though, which it looks like it will be in Skyfall).
I agree. I liked how through the years, the Bond films would feature a different car. I love the DBS in OHMSS. I was fine with Ford in DAF because it was set in the States. The Lotus was cool for the time. Even the BMW made sense for 90's BOND. I hate to see Bond rely too much on nostalgia.
That being said, those shots with Bond and M by DB5 in Scotland do look really nice.
You make a very good point! DAD, CR and QOS all technically had different Aston's but you'd never know it! They have looked the same for the last 10 damn years!
Maybe we should bring back the Lotus (google a current one-- they look awesome)
or something entirely new?
*edit- oops I posted mine before I read yours, @Getafix-- good call on the Lotus! Great minds think alike! ;)
Don't remember the great Bernard Lee standing next to a car, promoting his role. Everything is related to Dench....she must have something on the producers?! Lol
Of course, if the rumors of Ralph Fiennes being the new M are true, we can probably expect the same debatable 'over-use' of M in the future
I know - it looks stupid. Wish they hadn't developed this oh so original M story for SF.
I hadn't thought of that, but it is a little worrying. Bernard Lee was a well known character actor but not a 'big name' like Fiennes.
I love Aston Martins, but I, too, am getting a little bored of them. But, just so long as he doesn't have a BMW or a VW, I don't care what he drives. It could be a unicycle, I wouldn't care.
Agreed on the current Aston Martins, but I'd have liked it better if they'd switched to a different make of car instead of using the DB5 AGAIN. I don't mind it making cameos but I don't like it being the main car.
The DB5 is everthing but a cynical ploy - and certainly Dalton would have needed it more, IF what you said, was the case.
Very well said. I'm getting pretty tired of the whole 'Bond car' thing now.
When you look at the films up until GE, the only time we had a 'Bond car' was GF, TB, OHMSS, TSWLM, FYEO and TLD (I'm not counting the Bentley in FRWL).
Thats 6 out of 16 films - or approx 37% of the time if you will.
And thats not even mentioning the fact that in OHMSS and FYEO the car was just briefly featured and did not have any gadgets (if you discount the car bomb/alarm from FYEO).
In all of Bond history the only gadget car films up until the cliche ridden Brosnan era were GF, TB (very briefly), TSWLM and TLD.
Since GE we have had a 'Bond car' feature in every film, half of them with gadgets and if you also factor in the fact that in GE, TND and CR we also had the DB5 needlessly shoehorned in that equals 9 in 6 films - or 150% of the time.
I remember being excited in the trailer for TLD that Bond had a) a new Aston and b) it was a Q gadget car because we hadnt seen that since TSWLM. Now its just been flogged to death and I dont want to see another one for at least the next 4 or 5 films. Lets have some more inventive chases like the 2CV or the tank rather than just showcasing the latest Aston and filling it with tired cliches such as rockets and oil slicks.
Of course it wont happen as for the same reason we have Bond drinking Heineken we also have to see him drive the latest product from whichever car company has stumped up the most. Hence the shockingly embarassing Ford Mondeo or Focus or whatever the f*ck it was advert halfway through CR.
Also the DB5 is beginning to represent other cliches such as shaken not stirred that were over done in the Brozza era and take the series into accusatons of parody. I thought we had got past all that with the Craig era so why do we have to childishly keep reaching for the comfort blanket of the DB5?
Why exactly would Dalton have needed it more?
Think about it. His Box Office takings were hardly the best.
It was planned to appear in his third film, Bond 17, for the final time anyway.