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I hadn't thought about it that way before. You may have a point and I completely agree about the 'loss of magic' from FYEO onwards, at least in terms of the unique look and atmosphere which had characterized Bond films up to that point.
Also Moore was really looking his age at that point. He just got away with it in MR but not FYEO.
Yes, he definitely looked older than in MR, but I think the more serious narrative and less jovial approach accentuated that. He was back to his old self in OP, and although he looked even older I found it less noticeable due to the humour.
Imagine Tim taking the reigns as far back as FYEO. I would have liked to see that. I love Sir Rog, but his prime was very much in the 70's in my opinion.
To me the sexual vibe in her voice when she says "he's going to derail us" was worth the entry alone. I really had a good laugh on that one
I will also never understand what was going on in their minds. It's a typical example of EON ( all generations)not willing - or not being brave enough - to go the whole 9 yards. How many serious Bond movies have gotten spoiled by comedy or even slapstick moments! Actually to me the main achievement of CR is that it was the first Bond, after FRWL that is, in which they really pulled through with the seriousness.
Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of reasons for Denise Richards to be in a Bond movie, but not as a nuclear physicist. And certainly not in those hotpants in the middle of an army camp!
Not disagreeing with you but I was referring to the time periods in general. I didn't live through it but I get the impression that after the 60's the rules of society regarding sophistication/society dropped precipitously . That biker jacket Roger was told to wear for example haha.
Yeah as great as OP is (in my top 8 for sure), I would have liked to see Dalton face off against Kamal Khan, and a more serious treatment given to certain parts of it as I'm sure Tim would have insisted. But it's Roger's best imo, & probably he deserved that kind of film where he could show his repertoire of comedy, devastating one liner's and then his capacity to show real fear, anger and urgency in the tensest of situations.
In terms of the jacket, I assume you're referring to AVTAK? Yes, that leather number was very disappointing.
There's a sort Bimbo-Ish innocence to Richards that makes it forgivable for me. I think Halle is utterly terrible, even lines that aren't all 'sass' or innuendo are exceptionally poor. Basically everything she says is appalingly delivered, regardless of the dialogue itself.
'Here for the view again?'. Simple line; multiple ways to deliver it. Halle somehow even fucks that up. I dread to think how she'd have played Jones'. '...or somebody's gonna have my ass', which, incidentally, I think Richards delivers with the perfect amount of ignorance.
It's minor to me, but the "And another million in reserve" line is delivered so very poorly by her towards the end of the film, when they enter the bunker with M and crew before assaulting Graves' base/plane.
What isn't?
"Of course you would. My mistake."
"Of course I want to bloody continue!"
"Oh, look! Parachutes for the both of us. Whoops. Not any more."
My point is she wasn't out of place, although I would have preferred if she was a little more subtle.
Denise was completely a 'take me out of it' character for TWINE, which had some semblance of seriousness to it in comparison.
I thought she was competent and sexy. Her playful tone is done rather well. The problem is the dialogue which in all honesty isn't her fault.
Denise Richards is admittedly gorgeous but she's just out of her league from beginning to end.
Christ knows I'm as happy as the next bloke to lay into SP's flaws but that's just being silly.
I know I certainly very much 'prefer' watching DAD to SP. In fact, recent discussion of the film has compelled me to revisit it this week. Great fun, now that we can look back on it with hindsight.
Hahahaha. Well I say this because DAD knows what it is and plays it up, which makes it cooler. SP pretends to be something it's not and it leaves a bitter taste.
DAD was the first Bond film I watched so I'm a bit biased.
That's what I meant when I said better. The entertainment factor.
Not so sure. Bond abandoned by his own boss and left to rot and be tortured in a North Korean prison camp? Clear links to Fleming and Moonraker?
In Spectre we at least get some decent lines, set pieces and performances as well as stellar cinematography. I struggle to find one single positive with DAD.
Stephens is camp. Berry is shite.
Should've been the tagline on the poster.
"I've missed your sparkling personality"
"How's that for a punch line"
"Time to draw the line"
"Global warming, it's a terrible thing"
But then you also get a genuinely good little moment when Bond tries to shoot Frost in the head as soon as he finds out she's the one who sold him out. No messing about. Just goes straight for a bullet to the head.
That whole sequence sums up why I've really come to enjoy Die Another Day. So bad it's good, except when it's genuinely good. And Brosnan manages to anchor the whole thing in a way I can't see any other Bond managing. It's crap sure but crap can be fun to watch. Stupid is better than boring and for that reason I'd probably take it over average by the numbers entries like FYEO or TND. I mean the script actually has him breaking a landspeed record, surfing a tsunami and then nipping back for a car chase in his invisible car. It's so gloriously stupid and over the top and somehow played almost completely straight that I can't help enjoying it.
"I am so good."
"Especially when you`re bad."
I agree with your post though. Another classic line during the tsunami disgrace (made all the more enjoyable by Stephens' killer reaction):
"Hey, boss, he beat your time."